PTI News, Updates and Discussion

[gamaji]

Why would anyone "desire" it? Just read the writing on the wall. It’s inevitable if nothing structurally changes in Pakistan’s already bankrupt economy.

Don't forget letters to IMF and other foreign bodies, including legislative bodies, calls for civil disobedience, appeals to overseas Pakistanis to stop remittances, working hands in gloves with Hindutva enemy to reinforce each other's narrative against the state of Pakistan, to mention a few. The internal enemies are more dangerous than the external ones.

"Progress":
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PTI-supporter cult is still a LOT less internal "enemy" than your Fauji cult.



What "state"? Military establishment ain’t no state!

Pure bullshit not worth a response.

 

[imadul]

Then why the top engineers of the present setup are giving themselves lifetime immunity from any future prosecution in Pakistani courts?

Engineers showing weakness.
And they are weak, as the system will eventually collapse but a lot will be destroyed too.

 

[Abdul q]

Let's face it!
PPP was a party of Sindh, for Sindhis.
Destroyed Pakistan's industrial and economic base and laid the foundation of Karachi destruction.
Nawaz league is not even a party.

PTI, got massive popularity but showed immature political sense and let army and GHQ to take full control of pakistan, army is one leg Pakistan is standing (though just frozen army has demolished all pillars).
Why 1.1 million strong army will let Pakistan off of its clutches? The country is on their disposal.
But survival of Pakistan is in their interest so they will take steps for development.
Making more provinces will be a great service.

I wonder if i have to repeat 1971 history on this thread…
Let’s go with recents…
why would army let corrupt traitors rule the country, why wouldthe Lumber 1s ISI agency torture this country’s citizens and let enemies of country rule us, why Lumber 1s couldn’t see Bajwa’s corruption and so many in history’s corruption? So many massacres recently were planned and executed …. Pakistan isn’t standing it’s occupied… same playbook from 1971 to break it further Lumber 1s are fully involved with gloves off this time…

 

[imadul]

Sir, he had several months leading the NCM vote and then a full year after he was ousted to make a 'strategy' but he didn't make good choices while he was the PM in the months before the NCM vote nor in the year after his ouster where he was free, had the megaphone for his 'narrative' building.
And just now, despite his party veterans' appeals, he made another terrible choice by largely boycotting the by-elections. It is well understood by now in Pakistani politics to not let your opposition have a free hit despite the odds by boycotting the elections and yet he ignored his advisors again! Benazir Bhutto lamented her party's boycott of the 1985 elections till decades later, as did MQM when they gave the ground to Jamat e Islami.
There is so much credit we can give to a dimwit. Only so much.

NCM was a godsend, but IK hotheadedness took it on personal level, it was not a statesman act.
He is not dimwit, by far a very courageous man, though politics is not a personality clash game.
Haqiqi Azadi yes, but calling it Jihad is nonsense.

 

[Forsvaret]

PPP was a party of Sindh, for Sindhis.
Destroyed Pakistan's industrial and economic base and laid the foundation of Karachi destruction.

The know-it-all military establishment of Pakistan could’ve stopped Bhutto’s nationalization program if they really wanted to. They let it happen in return for immunity for the debacle military generals caused in former East Pakistan.

PTI, got massive popularity but showed immature political sense and let army and GHQ to take full control of pakistan…

Honestly, PTI couldn’t even come in power without military establishment’s support. PPP and PMLN had made sure of it by staffing their loyal functionaries in every department of Pakistan, thereby making it impossible for any third political force to enter the power corridors organically. Thus, the military establishment did what it had to do in 2018 elections, pissing off PMLN and PPP, because they ruined their established two-party system.

But survival of Pakistan is in their interest so they will take steps for development.

Well, a parasite is interested in the wellbeing of its host too, until it finds itself a new host…

 

[unconventional]

Under Imran Khan's "leadership", strong allies like China and Saudi Arabia became discontent with Pakistan as well.

Instead of managing the relationship with the US, he did not engage sensibly with them. First accused the US to be behind regime change/masterminds behind the NCM, then asking for their help to get Imran Khan out of jail.

He could not even get the Taliban to issue a statement that they recognize the Durand Line.

He was a terrible leader, and I say this as someone who was once very supportive of him. The only credit he gets is for protesting against drone strikes inside Pakistan; but he let the various factions of the TTP regroup in Afghanistan, undoing all the hard work post Zarb-e-Azb.

 

[Forsvaret]

NCM was a godsend, but IK hotheadedness took it on personal level, it was not a statesman act.

IK would have had NO problem facing VONC if it indeed was an organic motion. In fact, he had already asked the parliament one year before that whether it still had confidence in him, which he won easily:

 

[Abdul q]

Under Imran Khan's "leadership", strong allies like China and Saudi Arabia became discontent with Pakistan as well.

Instead of managing the relationship with the US, he did not engage sensibly with them. First accused the US to be behind regime change/masterminds behind the NCM, then asking for their help to get Imran Khan out of jail.

He could not even get the Taliban to issue a statement that they recognize the Durand Line.

He was a terrible leader, and I say this as someone who was once very supportive of him. The only credit he gets is for protesting against drone strikes inside Pakistan; but he let the various factions of the TTP regroup in Afghanistan, undoing all the hard work post Zarb-e-Azb.

Let’s talk about terrorism during his tenure…. Brainwashed people think that only stick can solve problems ? Stick can do it if you’re ready to wipe out people (gncide)… it was much easier of USA…. But in reality It has to be sticks and carrots…. You use only sticks you get bangladesh…
Now, see the terrorism index during Imran khan’s tenure… he also brought reforms to change radical minds by registering madrassas (which angered saudis i guess) and giving technical skills to madras’s students and same curriculum across the country in attempt to unite whole Pakistan….
So question is are we united now or were we united in Imran khan’s ONLY 3 years tenure?

 

[Forsvaret]

Under Imran Khan's "leadership", strong allies like China and Saudi Arabia became discontent with Pakistan as well.

That’s only because PM Imran Khan attempted to audit CPEC which pissed off China. And then he attempted to make an alternative Islamic Bloc which pissed off Saudi Arabia. This strong reaction left no doubt about the fact how Pakistan had NO real allies, only foreign masters with vested interests inside Pakistan.

 

[Abdul q]

That’s only because PM Imran Khan attempted to audit CPEC which pissed off China. And then he attempted to make an alternative Islamic Bloc which pissed off Saudi Arabia. This revealed without any doubt how Pakistani had NO allies, only foreign masters with vested interests inside Pakistan.

Pakistan feels like nursery for foreign masters… we produce babies to build other countries like slaves .. in order to do that our own country is starved of same level of industry….. its like us going to labour bazar and getting cheapest labour offered for home construction…. Now change the scale (context; recent pay cuts by arabs)

 

[Forsvaret]

Pakistan feels like nursery for foreign masters… we produce babies to build other countries.. in order to do that our own country is starved of same level of industry….. its like us going to labour bazar and getting cheapest labour offered for home construction…. Now change the scale (context; recent pay cuts by arabs)

I am shocked how people still hate IK because he actually expected Pakistan’s so-called great allies (Saudi Arabia and China) to simply behave like real allies, however, these countries only exposed themselves BIG TIME when they acted just like foreign masters of Pakistan.

 

[Abdul q]

I am shocked how people still hate IK because he expected Pakistan’s so-called great allies (Saudi Arabia and China) to actually behave like real allies, but these countries exposed themselves BIG TIME when they acted just like foreign masters of Pakistan.

Auditing anything in Pakistan in which FWO is directly involved is considered illegal and Haram by state(Allah’s Haq army)

 

[LC150]

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[LC150]

but continued learning while safeguarding its

really?

what lesson have they learned?

it seems like more of the same.. but educate us... what great new development you are referring to?

 

[LC150]

Good for you. Keep barking with no one even caring.

the only one that is barking is you.

unlike you we speak the truth....

PS so Maryum Bhaji claimed she was the first women political prisoner?... is this true? or is she confused like she claimed she had no properties?... Is lying a noonie article of faith?

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Any update on the luxury car she took from Toshakana?....