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[Cipher212]

That is a typical yo*thia response - just slandering.

So, are you out of a logical answer?

Are you seriously asking me if I think Imran Khan is a MI6, CIA, RAW, Taliban, Yahudi asset all at once and still somehow got power in Pakistan for 3 years? Do you not understand what a joke is?

fauj-eets like you are the real losers. You've even censored this term on this forum because you can't handle being called that. Run along to your captain sahab and ask him to increase your per post bonus now.

 

[LC150]

The current government of SS is coward. It needs to follow the jail rules for the convicted criminals rather than getting blackmailed and intimidated by mafias.

There is no justification whatsoever to give seven cells to one particular convicted criminal, allow political activities of that jailed criminal, and allow so so many people, including political persons, meet him so often (hundreds of meetings in just two years).

The jail officials are clearly violating the SCP ruling in this regard and that may cause trouble for them down the road.

Like during when nawj was allowed unfiltered access?

Hypocrisy is the virtue of the infidel

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

IK needs to negotiate his way out with the Pak Deep State. Othetwise, it'll eliminate him....

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Wah ji wah, bazurgo please tell us what is the difference between a convicted criminal and a political prisoner?

Also, please tell us if the (claimed?) popularity of a political actor allows him to commit crimes?

Does an even 100% popularity push a politician above the law?

Is the law only meant for non-popular persons?

And for the nth time: Imran is not a political prisoner. Him simply violated the NCM vote made him a criminal right there and then and then there were many of his actions after that. He is behind the bars for some reasons! And you are mistaken if you think he has 'the mandate': No political party has ever even touched 40% of polled vote and Imran secured only 30% popular votes. He has the mandate in K-P but that province is turned into a personal enterprise to free him, to do ethnic blackmail, and to target the Pakistani military in order to appease the Talibans.
Those currently in power have their own support base. No one can tell me that the good old Biradery System of Pakistan is not represented in the current Parliament! Sindhis have their their party in power and their population is tens of millions. Same with the Noonies. Same with religious parties.

Imran should be sent to some Saroor Palace in Saudi Arabia with a gag order for ten years. Pakistan can't have an anarchist out on the street constantly marching on Islamabad.

thanks for your posts my respected brothers.

put a hand on your heart and ask yourself if we have ever punished and imprisoned anyone solely on their crimes and unlawful activities and never ever as a revenge politics?

in my view, no prime minister has ever been punished for his crimes since many of them were repeated without any consequence and once he fell foul to the establishment then charges are trumped up to punish him.
I would say the same applies to unpopular and ordinary people as well but they are punished because they couldn't buy the justice for themselves.

finally, Imran has done his time. let him free... it will deflate the PTI balloon and PTI government in KP will have to prove itself that its better than rest of Pakistan.

 

[Trailer23]

Be careful with your language. Warning

WARNING - for what?

What language?

I didn't use any foul words - which I commonly do.

This comment of mine couldn't BE any more clean.

Odd...

 

[Hussain]

Warna kia hogaa?

crocodile tears will be shed

 

[imadul]

Thank God for some sanity from the PTI crowd.
It was totally unnecessary to violate the Cont. of Pakistan by throwing out the VONC and that on the bogus claim of America's role in Imran's toppling-- a claim he back paddled from but after tapping into Pakistanis' anti-Americanism to become popular. All the drama around VONC was totally unnecessary especially when one considers that he had near parity of seats in the National and Punjab Assemblies and control of the K-P govt. And then you can see his subsequent actions including resigning, dissolving assemblies etc etc. And just now, he again displayed his lack of brain by boycotting the by-elections--an action not one credible analyst thought was right.

Everything wrong with Imran boils down to arrogance and stupidity. I wish people stop making excuses for him. Having said that, Pakistan does need a potent opposition party and I wish PTI dumps this charlatan of a leader and come up with alternate leadership but, given how Imran didn't groom any leadership, fat chance for that. PTI is simply a mob, a cult, lead by a very low caliber of leader like Imran.

You may dislike IK, and call him whatever, that's your thoughts.
My point is about there is a balance between idealism and pragmatism.

VONC was just a normal game of musical chair. Army or say Gen Bajwa/GHQ was behind it, so it was legal but undemocratic.
Why IK did not take it just a ploy of power politics, I don't know... but seems he is just very personalistic and became very angry.
Moeed peerzada visited in 2023 and I asked him, army not going to let loose its control of Pakistan like that, he just did not understand my question.

Many PTI critics or one can say establishment spokespersons gave the message that this is nothing new, take a break and try to fix the system gradually but IK was just bent upon, Why My Govt was Removed?
It was same, Mujhe Kiyun Nikala, but in a different drumbeat.

 

[LC150]

IK needs to negotiate his way out with the Pak Deep State. Othetwise, it'll eliminate him....

Khan is khan .. he won’t back down

 

[imadul]

thanks for your posts my respected brothers.

put a hand on your heart and ask yourself if we have ever punished and imprisoned anyone solely on their crimes and unlawful activities and never ever as a revenge politics?

in my view, no prime minister has ever been punished for his crimes since many of them were repeated without any consequence and once he fell foul to the establishment then charges are trumped up to punish him.
I would say the same applies to unpopular and ordinary people as well but they are punished because they couldn't buy the justice for themselves.

finally, Imran has done his time. let him free... it will deflate the PTI balloon and PTI government in KP will have to prove itself that its better than rest of Pakistan.

I must say, good that you are back.
You were very disheartened when army was harshly criticized after the VONC. That time wounds were raw and attacks were unrelenting.
Now I can also look at the events with more sobriety (no I never drink ) and pragmatism.

Though my association with Pakistan has suffered because of the extent a reversed journey or journey in circles...

 

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[Cipher212]

IK needs to negotiate his way out with the Pak Deep State. Othetwise, it'll eliminate him....

If he negotiates with Pak Deep State then what makes him different from Sharifs and Bhuttos?

 

[VCheng]

finally, Imran has done his time. let him free...

... only to do what? That would be a mistake at this stage IMO. He has painted himself into a corner from which there is no backing out anytime soon.

 

[gamaji]

thanks for your posts my respected brothers.

put a hand on your heart and ask yourself if we have ever punished and imprisoned anyone solely on their crimes and unlawful activities and never ever as a revenge politics?

in my view, no prime minister has ever been punished for his crimes since many of them were repeated without any consequence and once he fell foul to the establishment then charges are trumped up to punish him.
I would say the same applies to unpopular and ordinary people as well but they are punished because they couldn't buy the justice for themselves.

finally, Imran has done his time. let him free... it will deflate the PTI balloon and PTI government in KP will have to prove itself that its better than rest of Pakistan.

No one is prosecuting IK for whatever he did as a part of his duties as the PM. On the other hand, whatever the offenses he committed while breaking the law of the land (and that too while fully knowing he was committing a crime) must face the justice.
It doesn't make a sense to let an influential criminal go without facing justice. Any self-respected and dignified nation cannot allow that. The law is not only for a layman. In civilized countries, people not only stop supporting a leader that turns out to be a criminal (even by just lying) and even demand for the accountability.
Imran Ahmed Khotakhail has committed so many offenses against the people and state of Pakistan. There is no point to let him go without facing justice just because he 'has done his time'. That makes no sense at all.

 

[PakFactor]

... only to do what? That would be a mistake at this stage IMO. He has painted himself into a corner from which there is no backing out anytime soon.

Had Imran Khan adopted the strategies employed by Sultan Erdogan in his rise to power at the nation's helm, history might have judged Mr. Khan more favorably.

If there is one crucial skill Pakistanis can adopt to improve their situation, it is the ability to read and improvise, breaking the cycle of repetition.