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Do you think PTI has a future without Imran Khan?

  • Yes

    Votes: 22 19.6%

  • No

    Votes: 80 71.4%

  • Only if senior leadership is released

    Votes: 10 8.9%
  • Total voters
    112
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WatchtowerWarrior4Ever said:
He is rightfully placed where he is requried to be. After adding fuel to the fire during the incidents after 9th of May.....he will face the consequences. That's the way it is.
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You don’t need to worry we will place each one of them who is committing brutality and crime against Pakistanís Just let the time come buddy make sure you’re not one of them in that list.
 
American general was here. So killing season of Pakistani has started again by a brave general.
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Pakistani establishment is one of worst perpetrators of brutality on the people of Pakistan… they have maligned pakistan army and its soldiers.. and they love to hide behind them when called out.
 
maverick said:
Pakistani establishment is one of worst perpetrators of brutality on the people of Pakistan… they have maligned pakistan army and its soldiers.. and they love to hide behind them when called out.
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This is just the beginning for Kasim. He’s showing interest in politics and is likely to enter Pakistani politics. The establishment and Imran’s opposition had assumed that if Imran Khan were eliminated, there would be no one left to carry PTI forward. But this interview signals otherwise—it sends a strong message to the Pakistani establishment and rival political parties that PTI is here to stay.

Moreover, these boys (Kasim and his brother) will have significant influence not just in Pakistan but also in Europe and the West due to their upbringing, their influential mother, and their international connection. And that is not a good sign for establishment and for opposition parties now it is up to the Pakistaní establishment how they work with these boys they are very talented boys and especially Kasim khan.
Making them enemy is not a right option to choose for establishment Mark my words
 
Cash gk said:
American general was here. So killing season of Pakistani has started again by a brave general.
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He will keep killing the bloody civilians until these civilians rise up like the Baloch and Pashtuns.
 
Cash gk said:
You don’t need to worry we will place each one of them who is committing brutality and crime against Pakistanís Just let the time come buddy make sure you’re not one of them in that list.
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Khan was filled up with vengence when he took charge back in 2018....he threw entire opposition inside jail on malicious politically motivated cases under the umberella of NAB and even guys like Shahid Khaqaan Abbasi and Muftah Ismael were not even spared.
Khan and his blind followers like you are filled up with even greated vengence now. Tumhary Muhatmaa ke tauheen jo ho gai. But this country cannot afford another Usman Buzdar or Googeee characters. PIA was banned already, smuggling routes were opened up. TTP was re intalled in KPK and we are still paying price with blood. And worst of all, an attempted mutiny to break chain of command of Pakistan Army....You Khan will Rust in Jail for a longer period than you think. Period.
 
PakFactor said:
@VCheng has a point, if he were as popular as we claim, wouldn't people have taken to the streets as the Turks did when the coup against Turkish President Erdogan was unfolding?

To your second point, the guns and barrels, many nations have had violent insurrections that have paid the price in blood for the next generations; the British had their own, the French, etc. I don't think the same can be said of Pakistan.

It then shows the Pakistanis' contentment with their living situation and mindset: chand din di zindagi, khao pio, moja karo.
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In Turkey, the people succeeded because it wasn’t a battle between the army and civilians, but rather a faction within the army attempting to seize power, which was resisted by the loyalists in the military, supported by the people. In contrast, the situation in Pakistan is vastly different. Here, it isn’t simply civilians rising against the million strong mercenary force of the Pakistan Army, heavily armed and backed by countless law enforcement agencies, bureaucrats, the judiciary, and puppet politicians...... all with the blessing of international powers. There’s no comparison to be made.

Civilians, standing against a fully equipped military with guns, tanks, and helicopters, supported by the entire state apparatus, have virtually no chance in direct combat.... unless the system propping up this mercenary force is seriously weakened. And that is happening, slowly but surely. It’s only a matter of time.
 
VCheng said:
Agreed 100%. The election IK lost was rigged and lost the post of PM.

Nobody can deny that fact.

But then again, why forget that the election that IK won was also rigged, and he became PM by a stolen election from his predecessor in the exact same way.
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Anyone claiming that the 2018 elections were rigged exactly the same as the 2024 ones is either completely clueless or outright lying.... curious, which one are you?
 
Goenitz said:
@M. Sarmad would disagree why Pakistanis are weak or cannot rebel or have a slave mindset, especially Puniabis ...
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Of course, that’s nothing more than a fabrication spun by the haters, repeated so often that even the locals are beginning to swallow it.
 
M. Sarmad said:
Anyone claiming that the 2018 elections were rigged exactly the same
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Who said the elections were rigged "exactly the same"?

Just curious, why are you LYING about what I said?

I said both election were RIGGED. The outcomes were decided according to what needed to be decided. One pawn came in the other one went out, and that is how they were similar in their outcomes.

Comprende?
 
VCheng said:
Who said the elections were rigged "exactly the same"?

Just curious, why are you LYING about what I said?

I said both election were RIGGED. The outcomes were decided according to what needed to be decided. One pawn came in the other one went out, and that is how they were similar in their outcomes.

Comprende?
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Reread what you've written, you're contradicting yourself, starting off by denying exactly what you end up stating...

This false equivalence, of blaming both sides, is an age old fallacy.

The truth is, while the Army has always had its hand in politics, what the Pakistani state has been doing so openly and without consequence since 2022 is something that would’ve been unimaginable just a few years ago
 
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