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[SoulSpokesman]

@Meengla sb

Afghanistan and its ideological kins have bled Pakistan more than even India has throughout Pakistan's history.

It is actually quite natural.

You need to remember one thing. The ruling elite, whether Sanghi or Congi, has no real interest in dismantling Pakistan or has any irredentist claim upon Pak territory. The claims on Pakistan Azaad Kashmir are purely for political brownie points. Pakistan is useful in scoring political points internally but apart from Pak's fomenting of insurgency in Kashmir (and in the past in Punjab) there is no real grievance that the Indian state has against Pak.

AFG on the other hand has a serious issue with PAK. The ruling elite sees large parts of PAK (KPK and large swaths of Balochistan) as parts of Afghania Irredenta and sees Pak as blocking its access to the sea.

Regards

 

[Starlord]

He wasnt racist while he needed the political aspect and made it a point to exclude Karachi as soon as he won the elections from certain districts. Oddly, Arif Alvi being fully from Karachi was an odd one out among others.

But his disdain from Karachi stemmed from deeper history and alleged extortion attempts by MQM against him.

I could say yes because his heating exchange with MQM second tier leadership his still kinda fresh in my memory, one reason because one of my aunt who was MQM supporter used to use words like " Kutta " and " Harami " for Imran Khan for calling Altaf Hussain but later she become PTI supporter lol But there was a general distrust and dislike among the PTI supporters for Urdu speaking people for their support of MQM, I had this conversation on Chai ke dhabby many times while we take a break from Counter Strike Games, PTI supporters often show their mask their hate because they need the urdu speaking vote to win in Karachi.

 

[Pakman1]

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Now Afghan Taliban can easily do any act of terror inside Pakistan and say that it is a false flag by Asim Munir

Nice

Imran Khan, not sure what he is smoking now a days. Seems like some good sh1t Mann

 

[mythbuster]

That argument oversimplifies both Karachi’s politics and Imran Khan’s role in it. Let me break down your points and explain them in a clear and straightforward way for everyone to understand.

Forum vs. Ground Reality
Yes, online spaces can sometimes feel disconnected from realities on the ground. But to say everyone here has a “changa si” attitude ignores the fact that many Pakistanis, both at home and abroad, openly acknowledge issues of racism, ethnic bias, and social inequality. Pretending these discussions don’t happen is itself a misrepresentation.

Ethnic Bias & Insults
Racism and ethnic prejudice unfortunately exist across Pakistani society, not limited to one party or leader. Reducing the issue to “Imran Khan looked down on Urdu speakers” is selective framing. Political rivalries with MQM or disagreements with its methods don’t automatically translate into hatred of an entire community. Many political actors, including PPP, PML-N, and the establishment itself, have had tense relations with MQM at different times.

MQM’s Own Failures
It’s important to note that MQM themselves were deeply compromised. Whenever they were given opportunities to govern, they fell short of delivering and often shifted the blame onto PPP. For over 30 years, they promised to address the quota system an issue central to their base but they never succeeded in removing it. This repeated cycle of failure eroded their credibility long before Khan made any inroads in Karachi. To pretend MQM was a victim while ignoring their own track record is rewriting history.

Karachi Politics
Karachi has always been a complex, contested space. Khan didn’t struggle there because of personal prejudice alone; he faced decades of MQM’s entrenched political machinery, patronage networks, and, at times, violence. His eventual breakthrough came when MQM weakened not because he suddenly “hated less,” but because structural openings appeared.

Performance for Karachi
Criticism that Khan didn’t deliver much for Karachi is fair but it isn’t unique to him. For decades, successive governments, from Zardari to Sharif to military regimes, have failed to address Karachi’s infrastructure, water, and governance issues. To single out Khan as though neglect began with him misses the long history of state abandonment in Pakistan’s largest city.

Bro , I seldom read lengthy posts , this time I mustered the courage and read both of your posts.....well written , well articulated but you are missing the essence of political jugglery of the last couple of years..... bottom line is Pakistan was on the verge of bankruptcy , PTI was getting unpopular and Ik was unwilling to take necessary measures to avoid default for fear of further unpopularity.....he was kicked out ..he played the victim card went anti state for all practical purposes.....this sob is a fukking traitor, he deserves to be hanged many times over .......btw , you are very good at polishing the turd.

 

[Xestan]

Extremely Important
Imran Khan has exposed the ambitions of the Asim regime. General Bajwa sold the “Ukraine narrative” to the West and overthrew Imran Khan’s government, and now Asim Munir wants to open a front against Afghanistan in order to prolong his rule and secure dollars.

In this entire game, once again the tribal and Afghan people will be made scapegoats.
Imran Khan has directed that Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) convene a Grand Jirga in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa (KP) in this regard.

Who'd give dollar to Pakistan, genius? As of now, Afghan Taliban are getting dollars to attack Pakistan every week.

 

[Xestan]

I have little doubt, Imran Khan's last few tweets are strange...why is Imran Khan so emphasis on the Afghanistan issue ...that is very strange ...may be some faction inside GHQ is forcing to handle this account. Imran Khan has no access from the outside world, only his sister.... otherwise what source ???????

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Maybe open your eyes a bit, his sisters are the source for these tweets. Last tweet in support of Taliban was directly sourced to his sister. His sisters are also on record saying same thing on video after meeting him.

 

[Olympus81]

At this moment, PTI 1st and 2nd tier has been severely blackmailed, compromised, penetrated by the boys so any news coming out will have to be taken with a pinch of salt.

Hence, PTI needs to be considered as non-existent.

Better focus on PMLN and PPP, the two parties that will steer Pakistan towards salvation.

 

[PakShaheen_79]

But where I DO blame Imran is that he plays a very dirty, a very dangerous game of ethnic politics to try to come back to power using his so-called 'Pashtun' credentials. There is no room for errors in Afghanistan and on Pakistan's tribal areas. Afghanistan and its ideological kins have bled Pakistan more than even India has throughout Pakistan's history. And while I reserve my judgement on Imran being the 'Taliban Khan', I think he is a retard, opportunist, even if he may mean well for Pakistan but his path back to power by appeasing the unappeasable is a path of failure for Pakistan. And hence I oppose Imran Khan. But also he is, per credible sources, also disliked by Pakistan's strongest trading partners/allies and that' not just America. The stupid guy was trying to make alliances with the poorer Muslim nations of Southeast Asia when everyone knows where the money lies: America led West, including Europe and the Middle East.
What a damn moron!!!

1. Read the leaked and now confirmed Common Wealth report on election rigging by Asim Munir + Mafia (Nawaz + Zardari) and see where his votes were stolen the most. It wasn't KP.
2. He is Taliban Khan in West, Yahoodi Lobby in Pakistan. Please dear "Patriots" make your mind who is he?
3. A politician being opportunist is far more comprehensible in country like Pakistan than a grade-22 officer of MoD acting like one. Why Asim Munir is not allowing to form a JIT/Commission on 9th May, 26th Nov?? Is he clean by any means? In what capacity he is running Pakistan's economic and foreign policies. What are his credentials in these areas?
4. What Good has come out for our allies from our biggest trading partners? Qatar is just the beginning. Soon these so called "allies" will wake up to a nightmare, they are still dreaming of daddy USA protecting them!
5. Poorer allies that can take a stand with you are far more valuable than wealthy ones with no moral. See who is more dignified today Yemen or UAE!
6. Lastly, if IK is such a bad person and has committed everything wrong,,, why nothing is stikcing on him in court of law despite brining "person specific changes" in constitution. Just yesterday, Star witness of establishment changed his statement.
7. Finally, All those who are cursing IK in their Ultranationalistic and Ultrapatriotic pluses, how Pakistan is going to deal with Taliban in Afghanistan?

I am not talking about TTP here. If you guys think we can eliminate every Taliban leader why wait? why providing enemy the opprotunity to bleed you more? Why not attack Afghanistan? But Can Pakistan toppble this Afghan regime brought in by "LARGEST TRADING PARTNER" and is being practically helped by the same party? Now you will see the absurdity of the situation. On one hand, we want to fight Afghan Taliban supported TTP and then we have Afghan Taliban backers in Washington who over stayed a decade (OBL: Primary objective was ahiceved back in 2011) to create present Afghan Taliban leadership and with whom we want to establish strategic partnership to bring economic revolution in Pakistan through SIFC.

Mullah Yaqoob (Qandhari Faction) wants Pakistani blood for helping US against his father's regime after 9/11. His desire opened a window for US deep state to do what they couldn't while staying in Afghanistan. To destablize Pakistan to an extent that a case against our strategic asset can be made. Do you believe that when US forces before leaving Afghanistan were destroying everything, they left thousands of M-16s and M-4s along with tons of ammuniation there by accident? No dear! Understand the game within the game!

I personally believe that IK is still thinking these are the same Taliban who once issued Fatwa that attacks on Pakistan army are haram. That leadership of original Taliban has long gone. These Afgfhan Taliban 2.0 are driven by money much more than by ideological belief so he is making these errornous assessment. But, still in our zeal, we must never forget that it's revenge of geograhpy that neighbors can't be changed and no country can fight an everlasting conflict with its neighbors.

We have tried violence from 2001 to 2018 (before IK era) and since 2022 to date (Post IK era) ... what have we gained in strategic terms? Heck, we are not even able to protect those very routes which are used by Pakistan Army for its movements in ex-FATA areas let alone securing the entire area and country. Why is it so. I personally believe, no single policy can work. Pakistan will have to employ all options from non-kinetic to kinetic but it's essential for the success that people can see that kinetic actions are being done as last resort.
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Senetor Mushahid Hussain has something to say about Pakistan's wealthy allies, lolz

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[Xestan]

I just don't understand how do zombies even believe this kind of idiotic rhetoric. Did we really 'elect' an Afghan loyalist as our Prime Minister? Like can anyone show him pictures of 53 Afghans we sent back in coffins recently.

Afghanistan has declared a war on your country and here, he's trying to confuse people into believing any TTP attack could be a false flag. This is treason!

 

[Areesh]

I just don't understand how do zombies even believe this kind of idiotic rhetoric. Did we really 'elect' an Afghan loyalist as our Prime Minister? Like can anyone show him pictures of 53 Afghans we sent back in coffins recently.

Afghanistan has declared a war on your country and here, he's trying to confuse people into believing any TTP attack could be a false flag. This is treason!

You think this is bad?

He even once supported harbyar marri and other bla guys in UK court

I'd do the same as terror suspects, says Imran Khan | UK | News | Express.co.uk

FORMER cricket superstar Imran Khan yesterday gave his support to two terror suspects accused of encouraging guerrilla warfare in Pakistan.

www.express.co.uk

I admit that I still defended and supported him even after this that may be he has good intentions and wants to resolve things peacefully instead of a military operation but now this is not possible to defend anymore. People can try to give all sorts of excuses and all that but I am done with this guy

 

[Goenitz]

His account is handled by pti media team on behalf of him

doesn't matter as it was not denied by PTI. Another 9th May stunt or not, the thing is, we should have solid proofs like those IEA men dying inside Pakistan. If we have that, we can rebuff any false flag claim. Unlike 9th May, when all CCTV footage went missing.

 

[El Sidd]

It's a conspiracy against the only sakhat handsome imandaar English speaking Oxford graduate launda from Pakistan.

Momineens and Muslimeens will never fall for this conspiracy.

 

[Pak-Warrior]

Some FACTS for immature audience:

2001 to 2018: Peak of Terrorism in Pakistan, Peak of drone attacks in Pakistan
2018 to 2021: Lowest terrorism. ZERO drone attacks
2021 to 2025: Again terrorism risen.


So before you point out fingers to a national leader / TRUE leader based on national mandate thrown in jail Imran khan on 100% FALSE charges. You should look at REAL facts.

I mean any clown Not pointing fingers to establishment but Imran khan needs to really do something about their knowledge and try to revive their common sense. How come someone be responsible for terror which started in 2001 and he came into power only in 2018. Then how come he be responsible when he is in jail and every god damn security policy is 100% made in GHQ.

Corruption, terrorism, murder of civilian supremacy / democracy that is everything to be blamed on those who are ruling this country since beginnings. That is 2 corrupt to the core dynasties + sold out Generals / wannabees Kings.

Imagine people here having so low intellect that they tend to believe a "tweet" when corrupt system do not even allow a person court hearings at a proper court.

Majority here fails to understand how intense & irreversible damage has done to our country in last 3 years. 3 years ago there was some degree of justice system, some degree of media freedom and importantly some degree of worth of national WILL (250 million civilian's worth in the country). Today Collective worth of YOU ALL combined is less than a dust on boots. Whole nation's collective WILL was discarded, humiliated and thrown in a bin like a tissue paper in last ballot. Try to cope with it.

I suggest everyone to analyze things in larger context. Try to understand the volume of injustices with this nation. Try to avoid short term memory loss problems.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

I think since Imran Khan is in prison, his twitter account is being handled by other people.it may not his personal statements as his family is not allowed to see him let alone the outsiders

We should take the statements on his social media handle with the pinch of salt

right!

are we even allowed to think anything, outside of the cage!

have some mercy on the poor, dont exploit emotions!

at times, religious duplicity of religious elements/class (JI), seems miniscule when compared with political imprisonment of masses!

all of the ruling class and aspirants have 1 exclusive agenda..

"run a simulation of power in their minds"!!!!

shame!


I'd give IK two options 1. house arrest 2. life time imprisonment... choice is his!
(as always the case with choice!)

 

[Pak-Warrior]

I mean you got to be REAL dumbest person alive OR a member of patwaran league to Not point fingers for terrorism (which started in early 2000s) on Estabishment but on a person who is in jail and got power only in 2018-2021. and that power was also limited as usual in Pakistan. Security policy is only dictated by GHQ no matter who's in PM house.

Terrorism roots started in 1980's by then COAS Gen Zia's policies. Ironically, Nawaz shareef was launched in the laps of same General Zia as puppet of military dictators in civilian clothes. Nawaz was appointed as CM of punjab by dictator Gen Zia himself. Then in 2000s post-9/11 till 2018 Pakistan was hit severely by terrorism. Again blame should be made to where its due. I see no one has guts to put the blame on people in charge on those times - I wonder why? Why terror was so much in those times? What were the reasons? Was Imran khan a secretive COAS making all those decisions ?

Why is that whenever establishment comes into power or bring their incompetent puppets like Shehbaz the terror rises ?

Zia 2.0 regime is forced upon us. Throwing Pakistan into a darkest tunnel when boots are ruling a nation of 250 million people. When a 21 grade military officer (who is actually retired) is tagging along with a puppet and meeting world leaders. What a mockery of the state we have become! Never had imagined that forces chiefs will impose & force themselves upon the chief position for 5 years (or unlimited). What about the deserving next candidates? This is a personal power show. I feel terribly pity for people here who are exposing their lowest IQ by not understanding what's happening to our beloved country.