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Do you think PTI has a future without Imran Khan?

  • Yes

    Votes: 22 19.6%
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    Votes: 80 71.4%
  • Only if senior leadership is released

    Votes: 10 8.9%

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Some FACTS for immature audience:

2001 to 2018:
Peak of Terrorism in Pakistan, Peak of drone attacks in Pakistan
2018 to 2021: Lowest terrorism. ZERO drone attacks
2021 to 2025: Again terrorism risen.


So before you point out fingers to a national leader / TRUE leader based on national mandate thrown in jail Imran khan on 100% FALSE charges. You should look at REAL facts.

I mean any clown Not pointing fingers to establishment but Imran khan needs to really do something about their knowledge and try to revive their common sense. How come someone be responsible for terror which started in 2001 and he came into power only in 2018. Then how come he be responsible when he is in jail and every god damn security policy is 100% made in GHQ.

Corruption, terrorism, murder of civilian supremacy / democracy that is everything to be blamed on those who are ruling this country since beginnings. That is 2 corrupt to the core dynasties + sold out Generals / wannabees Kings.

Imagine people here having so low intellect that they tend to believe a "tweet" when corrupt system do not even allow a person court hearings at a proper court.

Majority here fails to understand how intense & irreversible damage has done to our country in last 3 years. 3 years ago there was some degree of justice system, some degree of media freedom and importantly some degree of worth of national WILL (250 million civilian's worth in the country). Today Collective worth of YOU ALL combined is less than a dust on boots. Whole nation's collective WILL was discarded, humiliated and thrown in a bin like a tissue paper in last ballot. Try to cope with it.

I suggest everyone to analyze things in larger context. Try to understand the volume of injustices with this nation. Try to avoid short term memory loss problems.

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If you have guts then respond my posts. Points by points. Let the world see who got facts with themselves. Who are backed with facts and who are idiots pointing fingers to an imprisoned national leader. You guys need to be honest with your lives for once for a change.

Here are my posts. I challenge ALL boot worshippers & followers of patwaran club to bring facts and challenge my posts. Let's see if you are honest / truthful or just has ego issues with a jailed national leader:

Some FACTS for immature audience:

2001 to 2018:
Peak of Terrorism in Pakistan, Peak of drone attacks in Pakistan
2018 to 2021: Lowest terrorism. ZERO drone attacks
2021 to 2025: Again terrorism risen.


So before you point out fingers to a national leader / TRUE leader based on national mandate thrown in jail Imran khan on 100% FALSE charges. You should look at REAL facts.

I mean any clown Not pointing fingers to establishment but Imran khan needs to really do something about their knowledge and try to revive their common sense. How come someone be responsible for terror which started in 2001 and he came into power only in 2018. Then how come he be responsible when he is in jail and every god damn security policy is 100% made in GHQ.

Corruption, terrorism, murder of civilian supremacy / democracy that is everything to be blamed on those who are ruling this country since beginnings. That is 2 corrupt to the core dynasties + sold out Generals / wannabees Kings.

Imagine people here having so low intellect that they tend to believe a "tweet" when corrupt system do not even allow a person court hearings at a proper court.

Majority here fails to understand how intense & irreversible damage has done to our country in last 3 years. 3 years ago there was some degree of justice system, some degree of media freedom and importantly some degree of worth of national WILL (250 million civilian's worth in the country). Today Collective worth of YOU ALL combined is less than a dust on boots. Whole nation's collective WILL was discarded, humiliated and thrown in a bin like a tissue paper in last ballot. Try to cope with it.

I suggest everyone to analyze things in larger context. Try to understand the volume of injustices with this nation. Try to avoid short term memory loss problems.

I mean you got to be REAL dumbest person alive OR a member of patwaran league to Not point fingers for terrorism (which started in early 2000s) on Estabishment but on a person who is in jail and got power only in 2018-2021. and that power was also limited as usual in Pakistan. Security policy is only dictated by GHQ no matter who's in PM house.

Terrorism roots started in 1980's by then COAS Gen Zia's policies. Ironically, Nawaz shareef was launched in the laps of same General Zia as puppet of military dictators in civilian clothes. Nawaz was appointed as CM of punjab by dictator Gen Zia himself. Then in 2000s post-9/11 till 2018 Pakistan was hit severely by terrorism. Again blame should be made to where its due. I see no one has guts to put the blame on people in charge on those times - I wonder why? Why terror was so much in those times? What were the reasons? Was Imran khan a secretive COAS making all those decisions ?

Why is that whenever establishment comes into power or bring their incompetent puppets like Shehbaz the terror rises ?

Zia 2.0 regime is forced upon us. Throwing Pakistan into a darkest tunnel when boots are ruling a nation of 250 million people. When a 21 grade military officer (who is actually retired) is tagging along with a puppet and meeting world leaders. What a mockery of the state we have become! Never had imagined that forces chiefs will impose & force themselves upon the chief position for 5 years (or unlimited). What about the deserving next candidates? This is a personal power show. I feel terribly pity for people here who are exposing their lowest IQ by not understanding what's happening to our beloved country.
 
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Now Afghan Taliban can easily do any act of terror inside Pakistan and say that it is a false flag by Asim Munir

Nice 👍


We have all the REAL flying flags we need since 1995. IK must be taking some drugs in jail. Our death count has crossed 100,000 Pakitanis in the past 25 years and he knows this number.

I've never seen a more anti-Pakistani person in my life and sadly he was our ex-PM. How does near 100,000 Pakistanis dead not make him realize this needs to stop with whatever means possible to the state of Pakistan?
 
Our death count has crossed 100,000 Pakitanis in the past 25 years

Correct. Who's policies were those? Who were in power at those times? Who supported Taliban ? Who introduced extremism in our society and did all jihadification and brought madrassa revolution?

Try to develop guts to speak truth. I know its hard when you are politically bias & brainwashed. How come IK is responsible for deaths between 2000 to 2018 ? When state did everything opposite and allowed US drones to kill our children in our own land. This pathetic narrative set by this Zia 2.0 regime stands no ground.
 
This is our last warning on this thread. Post with respect on this thread. Personal attacks and jibber jabber is not a recipe for a good debate. Cut it out.........
 

Bajwa wanted to ‘resettle’ Pakistani Taliban​

Mazari pins blame for terrorism upsurge on incumbent govt



News DeskFebruary 18, 20232 min read
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Dr Shireen Mazari, a senior leader of the Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI), has claimed that following the Taliban’s takeover of Kabul in August 2021, General (retd) Qamar Javed Bajwa, the former army chief, suggested the resettlement of Pakistani Taliban in Pakistan.

She made these remarks during an interview with a private TV channel just as Pakistan witnessed an upsurge in terrorism, with the latest incident being an attack on the Karachi Police Office on Friday night.

The PTI leader claimed that when the former army chief brought up the matter, Gen (retd) Faiz Hameed, the former director general of Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), was also present.

Also read: Imran urges president to order inquiry against former COAS Bajwa

She claimed that the general was of the view that the TTP comprises some Pakistani families “who want to return to the country”, and they could be resettled if they accepted the Constitution and laid down their arms.

Mazari, however, said that the suggestion had led to an “immediate reaction” from the elected party members, and a meeting was called in this regard.



The meeting then decided to form a committee comprising both elected representatives and military officials to reach a consensus, she added.

She also said that her party wanted consensus to be a precursor to dialogue, but then their government was ousted and the successive government “did not care” about the specifics. She pinned the blame for the upsurge in terrorism on the incumbent government.

The PTI leader also maintained that Gen Faiz had initially visited the Afghan government, not the Taliban.

Read more: Imran say he "drew flak while Bajwa called the shots"

On the topic of Imran’s request for legal action against Gen Bajwa for breaching the Constitution, Mazari stated that the party was considering all options but did not provide further information, citing the confidentiality of certain matters.

When asked if Gen Bajwa had shown any favoritism towards India, Mazari declined to answer directly and instead stated that the Cabinet had decided not to engage in trade with India until it reversed its “illegal actions” of August 5.

Regarding the PTI chief's proposal to relocate the TTP families, she argued that the returning fighters had unresolved issues that needed to be addressed for the sake of peace in the region, and that negotiations were a better alternative to killing them all.

Imran had previously linked the increase in terrorist incidents throughout Pakistan to his removal from power and held the incumbent Pakistan Democratic Movement (PDM) government responsible for impeding the peace process.

"After the end of the Afghan war, around 30,000 to 40,000 Pakistani tribal fighters wanted to come back," he had said previously.


Imran planned to settle TTP fighters in ex-Fata


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Ikram Junaidi Published January 11, 2023
PTI chairman says KP police ill-equipped to counter militants armed with modern weaponry
• Claims Wazirabad JIT members being ‘pressurised’ to disown findings

ISLAMABAD: As he warned against the dangers of destabilisation in Afghanistan, former prime minister Imran Khan on Tuesday revealed that his government had planned to resettle banned Tehreek-i-Taliban fighters in Pakistan’s tribal districts with the help of the Afghan Taliban, but the plan hit a snag owing to non-cooperation of provinces.

Speaking during a seminar organised by the Khyber Pakhtunkhwa government on terrorism in the federal capital, the PTI chairman said that the government had planned to relocate at least 5,000 TTP fighters and their family members which amount to about 35,000. But the plan did not materialise as provinces refused to foot the bill, he added.

Initially, Sindh and Balochistan refused to give 3 per cent share from National Finance Commission (NFC) for the uplift of tribal districts and then the federal government stopped its cooperation after the PTI’s ouster, he claimed.

The PTI chairman stated the fall of Kabul and rise of the Afghan Taliban to power provided Pakistan with a golden opportunity to deal with the TTP threat. “The Afghan Taliban pressurised the TTP, which had over 5,000 fighters among its 40,000-strong group, to go back to Pakistan and we took a number of steps to deal with it,” he said.


Mr Khan said that there was an anti-merger group in tribal areas and the PTI wanted to launch uplift projects to satisfy the anti-merger group, but the lack of funds didn’t lead to anything significant in this regard.

Militants and KP police

The former prime minister lashed out at the federal government for its statements against Afghanistan and warned that if Kabul stopped its cooperation then the situation would aggravate.


“If we cannot continue good relations with Afghanistan, the new war on terror will become a curse for us. I said ‘absolutely not’ [to supposed request for US bases in Pakistan] because I wanted to save Pakistanis because while drone attacks were allowed, in retaliations Pakistanis were killed,” he said.

The PTI chairman, whose government is in power in KP, said it was impossible for the provincial police to counter TTP militants who were using US-made weaponry. “Rangers are in Karachi till date,” he said referring to the deployment to the paramilitary force in Sindh.

“I had warned that entire Pakistan would suffer if terrorism started in KP. However funds were not given to us,” he said, adding that hundreds of KP police officials had lost their lives to terrorism when PTI came to power in 2013. He said that military operation was part of the peace agreement but it should be used as a last resort.


He said the militants, created by military dictator Ziaul Haq, imposed war on Pakistan after dictator Pervez Musharraf took a U-turn and sided with the US.

“We took 180-degree turn during the Pervez Musharraf era and after the Tora Bora incident; Mujahideen entered Pakistan and alleged that Pakistan was the collaborator and imposed a war on us,” he added.

In a separate tweet, Mr Khan alleged that the investigation team probing the Wazirabad attack was being pressurised. “As per media reports, JIT members being pressurised to distance themselves from the findings of JIT investigating assassination plot against me. This further confirms my conviction that powerful quarters were behind the assassination attempt on me.”

Published in Dawn, January 11th, 2023

 
If you have guts then respond my posts. Points by points. Let the world see who got facts with themselves. Who are backed with facts and who are idiots pointing fingers to an imprisoned national leader. You guys need to be honest with your lives for once for a change.

Here are my posts. I challenge ALL boot worshippers & followers of patwaran club to bring facts and challenge my posts. Let's see if you are honest / truthful or just has ego issues with a jailed national leader:

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Stop lying. This is what operations achieved in Pakistan.

Op Raah-e-Nijaat 2009, clear drop in terrorism after that.
Op Zarb-e-Azb 2014, massive drop in terrorism from next year.

Imran Khan didn't perform any miracle. Relative peace in his time was a result of previous Operations. The stats show he formed Government in 2018 when terrorism threat was already low. But during 2021, during his government, terrorism started increasing. And it continued to go up, even till the last day of him being Prime Minister.

In three months of 2022, under Imran Khan, we lost 100 soldiers.
 
Correct. Who's policies were those? Who were in power at those times? Who supported Taliban ? Who introduced extremism in our society and did all jihadification and brought madrassa revolution?

Try to develop guts to speak truth. I know its hard when you are politically bias & brainwashed. How come IK is responsible for deaths between 2000 to 2018 ? When state did everything opposite and allowed US drones to kill our children in our own land. This pathetic narrative set by this Zia 2.0 regime stands no ground.

A monster was created through Gulf Arabs petrodollars, everyone got their share to turn a blind eye. Noone will get prosecuted and Pakistan will continue to ignore exposing the funders of extremism. Ghulami at its be best. Extremism was spread for over 40 years, through media, literature, fatwas, maddrassas, Universities. Pakistan till today has not banned the extremist literature, thdy don't ban their fundings, tv channels, they don't dare because those who make anti terrorism policies are symphathisers of terrorists.

Usa was in Afghanistan for 20 years, they claim they destroyed Alqaida and it's bases but as soon as they leave TTP has become powerful, ISIS is more dangerous than Alqaida, ISIS/TTP has recruitment centres in Afghanistan. What was Usa/Nato doing in Afghanistan for 20 years, something Pakistanis don't dare to accept nor our governments. They funded and build up ISIS ideology in Afghanistan, with Saudia funding, today even the Taliban fear ISIS and TTP, Taliban banned ISIS, it's literature, schools etc but in Pakistan we allow all the brainwashing to be done, we don't want to upset world powers. Gullable Pakistanis getting fooled as usual.

Like i mentioned before, Pakistan must work with Afghanistan Taliban, bring them on board, slowly get rid of TTP and help Taliban finish of ISIS, as General Raheel Sharif himself said Shadow of ISIS will not be allowed in this region but ISIS is here, bombing Taliban in Afghanistan, who is allowing this? 100% world powers and their puppets.
 
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how is a prisoner able to do daily tweets from the jail ?? Whts going on?

Why is the state/estb unable to stop this nonsense?

Prisoners are NOT allowed mobile phones in Jail. So it obviously that Mr Khan's Jewish handlers are dong all this. All these recent tweets about Khan not being released by his sons, Mr Khan's support of Taliban, his tweets about COAS, etc are ALL CONNECTED.

It was always hard for people like me to believe that Mr Khan who fuked around with Western chics all his life, married a Jew, spend a lavish life style, had his kids grow in the lavish life of London, all of s sudden had this HEART FELT CARE FOR PAKISTANI PEOPLE !! :LOL:

THIS KHAN SCRIPT HAS JEWISH MAFIA WRITTEN ALL OVER IT.
 
Prisoners are NOT allowed mobile phones in Jail. So it obviously that Mr Khan's Jewish handlers are dong all this. All these recent tweets about Khan not being released by his sons, Mr Khan's support of Taliban, his tweets about COAS, etc are ALL CONNECTED.

It was always hard for people like me to believe that Mr Khan who fuked around with Western chics all his life, married a Jew, spend a lavish life style, had his kids grow in the lavish life of London, all of s sudden had this HEART FELT CARE FOR PAKISTANI PEOPLE !! :LOL:

THIS KHAN SCRIPT HAS JEWISH MAFIA WRITTEN ALL OVER IT.

The claim is Imran Khan informs his sisters, party members, lawyers on his opinion, they then inform the twitter handlers to write it down in their own words.
 
I mean you got to be REAL dumbest person alive OR a member of patwaran league to Not point fingers for terrorism (which started in early 2000s) on Estabishment but on a person who is in jail and got power only in 2018-2021. and that power was also limited as usual in Pakistan. Security policy is only dictated by GHQ no matter who's in PM house.

Terrorism roots started in 1980's by then COAS Gen Zia's policies. Ironically, Nawaz shareef was launched in the laps of same General Zia as puppet of military dictators in civilian clothes. Nawaz was appointed as CM of punjab by dictator Gen Zia himself. Then in 2000s post-9/11 till 2018 Pakistan was hit severely by terrorism. Again blame should be made to where its due. I see no one has guts to put the blame on people in charge on those times - I wonder why? Why terror was so much in those times? What were the reasons? Was Imran khan a secretive COAS making all those decisions ?

Why is that whenever establishment comes into power or bring their incompetent puppets like Shehbaz the terror rises ?

Zia 2.0 regime is forced upon us. Throwing Pakistan into a darkest tunnel when boots are ruling a nation of 250 million people. When a 21 grade military officer (who is actually retired) is tagging along with a puppet and meeting world leaders. What a mockery of the state we have become! Never had imagined that forces chiefs will impose & force themselves upon the chief position for 5 years (or unlimited). What about the deserving next candidates? This is a personal power show. I feel terribly pity for people here who are exposing their lowest IQ by not understanding what's happening to our beloved country.
They have been doing operations since 58, I guess. None of the previous movements was strong enough, like IPI faqir, or so when the Afghan Communist Army was involved in the insurgency, as our locals were not supporting them.

Anyway, I heard they negotiated TTP for soldiers' bodies. If true, why did we negotiate for bodies and not peace?
 
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Hilary confirming who funded extremists.
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After this Pakistan army spokesperson went on TV and said the whole nation now knows who stand with us and who with the terrorists.
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Terrorist caught in Saudia, he wants to bomb Prophet peace be upon him grave and considers it shirk to visit.
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@hussain0216 just go through last few pages of this thread and you will understand why Terrorism will never end in Pakistan, it will remain in some shape or form and we may see few years of peace here and there... the whole thread is the evidence of what we were discussing in other thread, Enjoy in Frustration as I did.

Also @Areesh I know you already replied in this thread but last few pages are great for understanding why Pakistan as a country and those regions will be in a constant state of violence.

Lashkar Islami is a terrorist organisation, who fought battles with Pakistan army for many years, they at times merge with TTP and at times become independent. After his death he is being called shaheed.

This is pak online mullahs showing love to him, calling him shaheed.
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Establishment mullah Fazlur Rehman attending his funeral
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Muneer Shakir visiting Muzafaragarh
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And people on PDF making noises. Our own riyasat allows these people to attend jalsas, collect donations, run masjids, madrassas.
 
Explain this if you can. Lashkar Islami is a terrorist organisation, who fought battles with Pakistan army for many years, they at times merge with TTP and at times become independent. After his death he is being called shaheed.

This is pak online mullahs showing love to him, calling him shaheed.
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Establishment mullah Fazlur Rehman attending his funeral
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Muneer Shakir visiting Muzafaragarh
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And people on PDF making noises. Our own riyasat allows these people to attend jalsas, collect donations, run masjids, madrassas.


And that makes it okay? I don't understand the point you are trying to make.

Why do Pakistanis always gaslight themselves like this and make everything into a pissing contest.

Last 40 years has been about running around these afghandu apologists and cleaning up their mess. Since the 80s its been this nonsense.
 
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