PTI news, updates and discussions part ll

[Pakistanithinktank]

Yes, blaming PPP or PMLN is pointless. But so is thinking that PTI somehow is any different than any of them either. It was produced and dismantled by the same system as all the others.

The puppet masters never allow the game to be played fairly because they control most of the moves. But they are not perfect either.

When they came under pressure from the United States, Zardari saw an opportunity and pushed through the 18th Constitutional Amendment. At the time, Establishment allowed it, but now it has created challenges that are coming back to haunt them.

Sometimes the very system you help create ends up limiting your own power later on.

 

[VCheng]

Sometimes the very system you help create ends up limiting your own power later on.

Yes, it is the "seemed like a good idea at that time" school of thought. Act now and regret later is the story of the Pakistani system.

 

[Pakistanithinktank]

Yes, it is the "seemed like a good idea at that time" school of thought. Act now and regret later is the story of the Pakistani system.

It’s not impossible to fix. When there is will there is way. Push for Karachi to be Federal territory….Once it’s done, under federal law push for search warrant for Bilal house and I am sure they will find plenty of stuff buried there.

 

[Olympus81]

It’s not impossible to fix. When there is will there is way. Push for Karachi to be Federal territory….Once it’s done, under federal law push for search warrant for Bilal house and I am sure they will find plenty of stuff buried there.

If that happens, the Puppet master’s seat will be in jeopardy. They need PPP in Sindh.

If PPP goes from Sindh, the whole pandora box of Cantts and DHAs Karachi encroachments will be the focus. In addition, the PPP have a strong base in interior , hence rocking the boat will not be wise.

Comes back to the crux. PPP, PMLN, PTI or any other political party share very little blame. The puppet masters have designed the system in such a way that a certain outcome is expected.

If an amicable solution on Karachi needs to be derived, one can start with free and fair elections, and lobby for a devolution of power to local bodies. This will ofcourse be time consuming but anything outside this, I believe will invite a host of other problems. <Khayali pulao and what not>

 

[VCheng]

It’s not impossible to fix. When there is will there is way.

Of course it is possible to fix this. But there is no way when there is no will.

 

[Pakistanithinktank]

If that happens, the Puppet master’s seat will be in jeopardy. They need PPP in Sindh.

If PPP goes from Sindh, the whole pandora box of Cantts and DHAs Karachi encroachments will be the focus. In addition, the PPP have a strong base in interior , hence rocking the boat will not be wise.

Comes back to the crux. PPP, PMLN, PTI or any other political party share very little blame. The puppet masters have designed the system in such a way that a certain outcome is expected.

If an amicable solution on Karachi needs to be derived, one can start with free and fair elections, and lobby for a devolution of power to local bodies. This will ofcourse be time consuming but anything outside this, I believe will invite a host of other problems. <Khayali pulao and what not>

Sometimes it feels like the Establishment still hasn’t understood the basic reality of Sindh. If they truly want to counter PPP’s grip, then they need PTI to have a real presence there. PTI actually has the public support to win a large number of seats in Sindh, but the Establishment keeps gambling with the same old formulas. This is not how a country is run. Pakistan needs deep, serious structural reforms, not experiments.

MQM… what credibility do they have left? Their own members are buried under cases…from corruption all the way to murder. We’ve watched their performance for 35 years. Whatever little work happened was during Musharraf’s time. The rest of the years, they were lying on the same bed as PPP, sharing power, sharing benefits, sharing silence.

Karachi gave them everything. Sindh gave them opportunity after opportunity. And what did they give back? Almost nothing. No transformation. No vision. No courage. Just slogans, excuses, and the same old politics.

This is why people are tired. This is why the system feels stuck. Because the same players keep returning, and the same mistakes keep repeating.

The political vacuum you are talking about can only be filled by PTI. There is no other party powerful enough to counter PPP in their home ground. Establishment can also reactivate GDA in Sindh.

Establishment is in a mess because they think they can run the government like it’s 90s.

As far as devaluation, frame work is there already. What is missing is the will to implement it.

In my opinion entire coastal area should be under federal jurisdiction.