Punjab looks to ‘neutralise’ TLP

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His exact statement to find a common ground with Christian apologist was "You have problems with your scripture and we have problems with our scripture", it was a blanket statement which to any neutral observer would mean that Quranic text has similar level of contradictions, omissions and lack of authenticity as bible.

In fact, he expressed his doubt on "standard narrative" around quranic preservation in emails to his cohorts, which were subsequently leaked: Qadhi expressed skepticism about the traditional narrative, stating that "the standard medieval narrative simply holds little weight". He also shared that exploring textual variants (Ahruf and Qira'at) led him and other academics to experience a "borderline crisis of faith". Furthermore, he argued that literal preservation wasn't "letter for letter"

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I've watched some of his recent interviews, and honestly, I think he has done a good job explaining where he stands. Among the scholars in Texas, many people consider him to be one of the more intellectual and thoughtful voices.

When you look at the history of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, it's interesting that he was once respected by many Sunni scholars, and people would often seek his advice and opinions. Only Allah (SWT) truly knows what led him to later claim prophethood and establish a separate movement.

The same can be said about the Submitters movement. It was founded by a well-known Egyptian Sunni scholar whose views gradually moved away from mainstream Islamic scholarship. In my humble opinion, when someone goes very deep into religious matters without the balance of knowledgeable guidance, they can become vulnerable to the whispers of Shaytan and their own interpretations.

We have seen similar patterns throughout Islamic history. The Khawarij, for example, became so extreme in their understanding that they eventually declared even some of the Sahabah (RA) to be disbelievers.

That's why I believe having a teacher, mentor, or trusted scholar is so important. No matter how intelligent or knowledgeable a person may be, we all need someone who can keep us grounded, offer sincere advice, and correct us when we start heading down the wrong path. Knowledge is important, but humility and guidance are just as important.

Just like Saudi Arabia following Humbali Madhab, Pakistan need to develop national scholarship program that focusing on teaching mainstream Islam not an interpretation of so and so. TLP, Dawat-e-Islami, Barlevi, Razakhani, Deobani, etc, all should be folded into mainstream Islam, instead of each having their own masjid.
Do you see any religious issues, hate speeches against sects, violence, religious target killing in GCC countries?

 

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Do you see any religious issues, hate speeches against sects, violence, religious target killing in GCC countries?

You dont because either they were mostly unified under the wipeout post early Saudi Kingdom - ironically mirroring what the Safvi's did in Iran centuries ago by oppressing and replacing all other interpretations.

So where Shah Ismail half a millennia ago took out Sunni (including Sufi orders) in Iran, the Wahhabis did the same in Saudi Arabia against other Sunni interpretations and Shias.

Doesn't mean all sunnis and all shia were eliminated respectively but that unifying the religious narrative you do get a more cohesive society in that aspect.

Turkey is another interesting example in that during Ottoman times certain Sunni/Sufi orders had state patronage while others did not which is saw crossing "boundaries" . It then went ahead with Ataturk to completely wipe out patronage of religion initially by the state and then completely institutionalizing Sunni Islam.

Technically, Zia did push patronage - with Deobanis and Ahl-e Hadees but more so to create control rather than actually favor anyone - partly because even pre-independence Pakistan was lacking in support from religious powerhouses so the rulers in fear of establishing legitimacy for the state bent over to the clergy throughout early years which established the precedent that still sits today.

First step to implement something like this in Pakistan was actually never capitalized on which was Paigham e Pakistan Fatwa - it should have then led to further alliance and unification among the schools of thought but instead nobody post it including both GOP in succession and establishment basically left it for elite party cocktail discussions rather than policy and ulema "certification".