Ranking Indias most vital Submarine internet cables (current and future) to CUT in the NEXT WAR

[SilentWatch]

Hi ISI, MI and Pakistan Navy PDF members,

below is an independent AI assisted ranking of cables, in case of BUM vs Sindoor round 2 - use the opportunity to cut indian economy to size -> if they call us 'bhikari' we should ensure they also become one -> If we are not doing naval battles in Round 2, at least Hangors can CUT some cables?

reach out to me via DMs if you want more AI assisted (I have some uncensored models as well that can help) or send me objectives you want an independent think for targeting a strike package for value.

other posts in the series:

Thread 'identifying 100 data centres for max economic damage on India for NEXT WAR'

Today at 7:29 PM

HI ISI, MI and Rocket Force PDF members

Below is a GLM 5.3 and Deepseek V4 AI assisted list of the top 100 data centres, taking them out in the next BUM vs Sindoor round 2 can chronically impact the financial data centres in the indian economy -> a few strikes and the clients will be too scared to host US, Canadian and EU financial data on Indian Servers. An important Economic damage value that extends by pushing down India's post war recover growth rate significantly and end a stategic value industry india as - Pakistan doesnt

reach out to me via DMs if you want more AI assisted (I...

• SilentWatch
• Replies: 1
• Forum: Indian Defence Forum

• 

Thread 'Identifying 105 Geo-Hotspots of Economic value In India for Max Eco Damage ~US$1.2 / 4 trn for NEXT WAR'

Today at 6:26 AM

Hi all

I have been playing with AI models for while, now pointing them on an independent thought on highest value ecomomic value. i.e. hitting the least number of coordinates for max economic damage for India chronically.

Hopping serving folk in intelligence is using AI to its maximum, I used Gemini Pro 3.6, GLM 5.3 and Deepseek for this analysis using public info.

Happy for any comments even in improving the analysis.

---
Spatial Assessment Methodology

The audit evaluates each node using a balanced dual-dimension scoring framework with an equal weighting system (50% per...

• SilentWatch
• Replies: 0
• Forum: Indian Defence Forum

• 

---

OVERALL MAP:

Metrics for Ranking Explained​

To rank these cable systems, I use three key capacity metrics, which are explained below:

METRIC	DESCRIPTION	WHY IT MATTERS
** Designed Capacity **	The theoretical maximum bandwidth the cable can achieve with its current fiber pairs and latest transmission technology (e.g., 100Gbps per wavelength, 400Gbps per wavelength).	Represents the future-proofed potentialof the cable. A high designed capacity indicates the cable can handle significantly more traffic as demand grows and technology is upgraded.
Lit Capacity	The portion of the designed capacity that has been installed and is operational(i.e., "lit" with active lasers and transmission equipment).	Represents the current maximum potential of the cable. This is the capacity that the cable owner can sell to customers or use for their own traffic.
Activated Capacity	The portion of the lit capacity that is currently being used for traffic.	Indicates the current utilization and demand on the cable. A high activated capacity relative to lit capacity shows the cable is well-utilized.

---

​

Ranking of Major Cable Systems by Designed Capacity​

​

The following table ranks the cable systems based on their designed capacity. Note that data for some systems is not publicly disclosed, and capacities are constantly evolving. The ranking is based on the most recent available information.

RANK	CABLE SYSTEM	DESIGNED CAPACITY (TBPS)	KEY LANDING POINTS IN INDIA	STATUS & SIGNIFICANCE
1	MIST	>216 Tbps mordorintelligence+1	Mumbai, Chennai, Tuticorin	Future Powerhouse. This is a next-generation cable with the highest publicly stated designed capacity connected to India. Its activation will be a major boost.
2	India-Asia Xpress (IAX)	Not Publicly Disclosed, but Expected to be Very High (Likely 100+ Tbps)	Mumbai, Chennai	Jio's Major Project. As a private cable backed by Reliance Jio, it is designed for massive future capacity to serve their domestic and international data needs.
3	India-Europe Xpress (IEX)	Not Publicly Disclosed, but Expected to be Very High (Likely 100+ Tbps)	Mumbai	Jio's Major Project. Similar to IAX, this is a key cable for Jio's global expansion, targeting European routes with high capacity.
4	2Africa / EMIC-1	Not Publicly Disclosed, but Part of the World's Largest Cable Project (Likely >100 Tbps per branch)	Mumbai, Chennai	Global Colossus. This is a massive, transformative project led by Facebook. The branch landing in India will have substantial capacity, part of its >500 Tbps total design.
5	SEA-ME-WE 6	Not Publicly Disclosed, but Expected to be High (Likely >100 Tbps)	Mumbai, Chennai	Next-Gen Consortium Cable. This is the successor to the SEA-ME-WE 5 cable, using the latest technology. It will be a critical artery for Europe-Asia traffic.
6	SEA-ME-WE 5	24 Tbps (Upgradeable)	Mumbai, Chennai	Current Workhorse. This is one of the most important existing cables. While its designed capacity is lower than the newer systems, it is heavily utilized and has undergone upgrades.
7	Bay of Bengal Gateway (BBG)	20 Tbps (Upgradeable)	Chennai, Porthcawl	Key Regional Link. A crucial cable for connectivity to Southeast Asia and the Middle East. Its capacity is being upgraded to meet demand.
8	AAG (Asia-America Gateway)	20 Tbps (Upgradeable)	Mumbai	Primary US Route. A major cable for traffic to the United States. Like SEA-ME-WE 5, it is a critical but older system undergoing upgrades.
9	IMEWE (India-Middle East-Western Europe)	3.84 Tbps (Initial, Upgradeable)	Mumbai, Chennai	Important Legacy Route. An older cable that was very significant when built. Its capacity is much lower than modern systems, but it still carries traffic.
10	EIG (Europe-India Gateway)	3.84 Tbps (Initial, Upgradeable)	Mumbai, Chennai	Important Legacy Route. Similar to IMEWE, a key cable for Europe-India traffic, but its capacity is now dwarfed by newer systems.

---

Future Outlook: A Quadrupling of Capacity​

the next-generation privately-funded and consortium cables

1. Privately-Funded Cables (e.g., Reliance Jio's Projects)​

These are typically built by a single company (like a large tech or telecom firm) for their own use and to sell capacity to others.

CABLE SYSTEM	LANDING STATIONS IN INDIA	OPERATOR / OWNER	STATUS & SIGNIFICANCE
India-Asia Xpress (IAX)	Mumbai and Chennai submarinenetworks+2	Reliance Jio Infocomm	Under Construction / Expected 2024-2025. This is Jio's flagship private cable project. It will connect India directly to Singapore, Malaysia, and Thailand, creating a high-capacity, low-latency link to the Asia-Pacific region. Having two diverse landing points on opposite coasts (west and east) enhances national resilience.
India-Europe Xpress (IEX)	Mumbai submarinenetworks+2	Reliance Jio Infocomm	Under Construction / Expected 2024-2025. As the name suggests, IEX will link India to Europe(via landings in Oman, Djibouti, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, France, Italy, Greece). It will interconnect with IAX in Mumbai, creating a massive global ring submarinenetworks . The landing in Mumbai places it directly at the heart of India's financial and internet exchange point.
Blue-Raman	Mumbai(Expected) linkedin	Google & Telecom Italia Sparkle	Under Construction / Expected 2025-2026. This is a groundbreaking project that will create a new route from Europe to India avoiding the congested Suez Canal by going through Israel. This provides a critical alternative path, enhancing global network resilience. The Mumbai landing will connect this new route to India's core network.
SING (Singapore-India Gateway)	Mumbai(Expected) linkedin	Google (Likely Operator)	Planned / Under Development. While details are less public than others, this project aims to create a direct, high-capacity link between Mumbai and Singapore, another critical global hub. This would further boost capacity between these two major internet exchange points.

---

Consortium Cables (e.g., Multi-Operator Global Projects)​

These are built by groups of telecom companies from different countries sharing the enormous cost. They are open to any member operator for capacity purchase.

CABLE SYSTEM	LANDING STATIONS IN INDIA	CONSORTIUM / KEY OPERATORS	STATUS & SIGNIFICANCE
2Africa (Pearls Branch)	Mumbai(Expected) linkedin	Meta (Facebook), China Mobile, Orange, South Africa's MTN, etc.	Under Construction / Expected 2024. This is the world's largest submarine cable project. The "Pearls" branch specifically extends the cable to India and Pakistan. The Mumbai landing will bring unprecedented capacity from this global network, directly benefiting Indian consumers and businesses.
SEA-ME-WE 6	Mumbai and Cochin (Kochi) linkedin+1	Global Consortium (DoT-owned operators like BSNL, MTNL, and private players like Airtel, Tata Communications, etc.)	Under Construction / Expected 2026 en.wikipedia . This is the successor to the SEA-ME-WE 5 cable, which is a primary artery for traffic between Europe, the Middle East, and Asia. SEA-ME-WE 6 will have a massive designed capacity of 126 Tbps en.wikipedia . Having two landing points in India (west and south) provides crucial redundancy and improves connectivity to southern India. Airtel has landed the SEA-ME-WE-6 submarine cable in Chennai facebook .
MIST (Myanmar/Malaysia-India-Singapore Transit)	Mumbai and Chennai linkedin	OMS Group (and others)	Under Construction / Expected 2025-2026. This cable will create a new high-capacity route connecting India to Myanmar, Thailand, Malaysia, and Singapore. Its design capacity of 216 Tbps submarinenetworks makes it one of the most powerful cables in the region, and dual landings in Mumbai and Chennai ensure robust connectivity across the country.

---

 

[Jaeger]

Could you also please guide your "ISI, MI and Pakistan Navy PDF members" on how they should be cutting these submarine cables which are about 2500 meters under the sea.

Perhaps Pakistani sailors can hold their breath for a real long time?

 

[SilentWatch]

Could you also please guide your "ISI, MI and Pakistan Navy PDF members" on how they should be cutting these submarine cables which are about 2500 meters under the sea.

Perhaps Pakistani sailors can hold their breath for a real long time?

View attachment 213589

Dude we just bought AIP Subs with unto 24 days of snorkel endurance... SSG N should be training TBH in cable cutting.

my analysis thinking is geared towards maximum economic damage vs just caters on runways.


I am not military, just an AI guy trying to help when our nations go to war again - depending on when Modi Jee unpauses.

 

[Jaeger]

Dude we just bought AIP Subs with unto 24 days of snorkel endurance... SSG N should be training TBH in cable cutting.

my analysis thinking is geared towards maximum economic damage vs just caters on runways.


I am not military, just an AI guy trying to help when our nations go to war again - depending on when Modi Jee unpauses.

Do you know, what the crush depth of a single hulled diesel electric submarine made out of steel is ?

It is less than 300 meters.

 

[SilentWatch]

Could you also please guide your "ISI, MI and Pakistan Navy PDF members" on how they should be cutting these submarine cables which are about 2500 meters under the sea.

Perhaps Pakistani sailors can hold their breath for a real long time?

View attachment 213589

FYI China can cut cables 4000 metes -> I am hoping PN is learning from PLAN




Dear "ISI, MI and Pakistan Navy PDF member" - per the helpful advice of our Indian friend.

1. Cutting a Cable at 2,500 Meters: Possible but Complex​

Cutting a cable is the more straightforward of the two actions, though it still requires significant resources.

• How it's done: The primary method is using a submarine or a Remotely Operated Vehicle (ROV)equipped with cutting tools (e.g., hydraulic shears, abrasive water jets, or laser cutters). The target cable is located, and the tool is used to sever it. For example, China has successfully tested a cable-cutting ROV that can operate at depths of 4,000 meters.
  .
• Why it's done: Historically, cutting enemy communication cables was a strategic wartime tacticto isolate opponents and force them onto less secure or monitored channels. Today, it could be used for sabotage or to create a denial-of-service condition.
  
  
• Challenges:
  • Depth: At 2,500 meters, the water pressure is immense (over 250 atmospheres). Equipment must be extremely robust.
  • Visibility: It's pitch black. Operations rely on sonar, cameras, and precise navigation.
  • Currents: Deep-sea currents can shift, making precise work difficult.
  • Detection: Any unauthorized presence on the seabed near a cable can be detected by navies or cable operators using surveillance systems.

2. Tapping a Cable at 2,500 Meters: The Ultimate Challenge​

Tapping a fiber-optic cable is infinitely more complex than cutting it. The goal is to intercept the data without disrupting the flow of light pulses, which carry the information.

The Physics Problem​

Modern cables contain hair-thin glass fibers that carry data as pulses of light . To tap one, you need to:

1. Access the fibers: You must strip away multiple layers of protective armoring (polyethylene, steel wires, copper conduits) without breaking the fiber.
2. Insert a tap: You need to physically splice a device into one or more fibers to capture the light signal. This is like trying to splice into a single human hair without breaking it, while it's in a pitch-black, high-pressure environment.
3. Avoid disruption: The tap must be non-intrusiveto the light signal. Any degradation will trigger alarms on the cable's performance monitoring systems at the landing stations, which constantly test the cable's integrity.

Historical Precedent (Copper Cables)​

During the Cold War, the US successfully conducted Operation Ivy Bells . They placed a recording pod on a Soviet underwater copper communication cable in the Sea of Okhotsk. This was possible because:

• Copper cables were physically larger and easier to handle.
• The taps were passive, reading the electrical signals without needing to splice into the copper.
• The Soviet cables were considered secure and were unencrypted, making the tap incredibly valuable.

Modern Fiber-Optic Reality​

The transition to fiber-optics changed everything. As noted in one source, "tapping a modern fiber-optic cable that lies on the seafloor is a lot harder than doing the same with a Cold War copper cable" . The reasons are:

• Precision Required: Splicing into a fiber without breaking the light signal is extremely difficult. It requires exposing the glass core and fusing a new fiber to it (a process called fusion splicing), which is challenging even in a laboratory setting, let alone on the seabed.
• Encryption: Even if a tap were successful, modern communication data is almost universally encrypted end-to-end(e.g., HTTPS, SSH). The raw data would be useless without the decryption keys
  en.wikipedia
  .
• Detection: The tap itself might cause a slight increase in signal loss or reflection, which could be noticed by operators. Advanced monitoring systems are designed to detect such anomalies.

Theoretical Methods (And Why They're Hard)​

• Manned Submarine Operation: A specialized submarine (like the historic USS Parche or the smaller NR-1) could carry saturation divers or use robotic arms to perform the splicing. However, this requires an enormous logistical effort, a support vessel, and weeks of preparation. The noise and presence of such a operation would be highly visible.
  .
• ROV with Splicing Capability: An advanced ROV could be equipped with the tools for fusion splicing. However, performing a perfect fusion splice in a wet, high-pressure environment is a monumental task. The success rate would be very low, and any mistake would likely be detected.

 

[SilentWatch]

Do you know, what the crush depth of a single hulled diesel electric submarine made out of steel is ?

It is less than 300 meters.

Yes my friend, I know Crush depth -> I also know AIP subs + ROV tech can cut cables in the 2000-3000 meter ranges.


I am saying it's very hard, but if PN can pull it off wont you be impressed in the next war?

 

[Jaeger]

Yes my friend, I know Crush depth -> I also know AIP subs + ROV tech can cut cables in the 2000-3000 meter ranges.


I am saying it's very hard, but if PN can pull it off wont you be impressed in the next war?

Lol. What AIP sub+ ROV tech are you talking about?

ROVs are launched by surface vessels!

Can you name one ROV capable of operating at those depths either owned or operated by Pakistan?

BTW you shoud read about Titan submersible and it's fate.

 

[SilentWatch]

Lol. What AIP sub+ ROV tech are you talking about?

ROVs are launched by surface vessels!

Can you name one ROV capable of operating at those depths either owned or operated by Pakistan?

BTW you shoud read about Titan submersible and it's fate.

My friend, I have no idea on "owned and operated" my assumption either PN covert buys or Leases from PLA-N ....

• No, ROVs are not only launched from surface vessels. Submarines, including advanced AIP boats like the Hangor-class, have and will increasingly deploy specialized ROVs and UUVs for covert missions.
  
  
• The Hangor-class submarines, with their AIP propulsion for enhanced stealth and endurance, are theoretically excellent candidates for such a role, even if it is not their primary stated mission. They exemplify the modern submarine's evolving role as a covert, mobile platform for unmanned underwater systems.

The Hangor-Class Submarine and AIP: A Potential Role?​

Now, let's address the Hangor-class specifically. Based on available information, these submarines are AIP-equipped (Air-Independent Propulsion) diesel-electric attack submarines .

• Primary Mission: Their stated role is anti-access/area denial (A2/AD)operations, primarily using torpedoes and anti-ship missiles . Their AIP system allows them to remain submerged for extended periods without snorkeling, enhancing their stealth and endurance compared to conventional diesel-electric subs.
  
  
• Potential for ROV/UUV Deployment: While the search results do not explicitly state that the Hangor-class is designed to carry or deploy ROVs, the technological trend and their design suggest this is a plausible and likely future capability or mission:
  • Modern Submarine Trend: Navies worldwide are integrating Unmanned Underwater Vehicles (UUVs)with submarines. For example, the French Navy has successfully launched and recovered an underwater drone from a nuclear submarine , and the German Navy operates the BlueWhaleUUV designed to work with submarines .
  • Covert Surveillance: An AIP submarine like the Hangor, optimized for stealth, would be an ideal platform to covertly deploy a small ROV or UUV to conduct surveillance of enemy naval bases, ports, or shipping lanes, or to inspect underwater infrastructure (like cables or pipelines) in contested waters.
  • Modular Design: The Hangor-class is based on the Chinese Type 039A/B submarine, which is known to have modern sensor and communication suites. It is conceivable that future variants or upgrades could incorporate dedicated mission bays or specialized tactical UUVs that can be launched from existing tubes or external stowage.