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I will be 66 in another month. I've been watching this for probably far longer than you have, Captain. I was making similar comments in the 80s only to be called a "conspiracy theorist". Imagine the shock and look on my former wife's family when my now-deceased ex-father-in-law agreed with me.

The only ones who can be blamed for this mess is those who put them there. And that includes you, and me.
Well, I am turning 45 this year, so I am not that far behind.

Anyway, I don't know who exactly to blame, was this we, as American, drop the ball somewhere along the line, or the system that was in place since 1776 is rigged to begin with? People, like you just said, said this is our own fault, maybe, since we are the one that vote in those politicians that don't care about us. But what is an election if you are going to be wrong either way you choose?

I love George Carlin, and his view is WAY beyond our time.

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I just did one better than him, I left.........
 
Gliding bomb is outside the range of medium range AD.

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Size isn't everything. Bad bad T-72 is no match for cheap plastic drone.

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The problem with Russia is that they were supposed to outright win this war, that is how they were planning on this particular operation to begin with, a quick victory follow by a quick transition of government, and then 100% of Ukraine going back to Russia just like the old time during Yanukovych.

We know 3 years later, this is not to be, setting aside NATO expanded 6% and make a new front toward Russia (Finland front) and Russia now really and completely surrounded by NATO, I don't think NATO is the reason why Russia wanted to invade to begin with, just look at what they gain in Ukraine versus what they loses.

What they gain?

20% of Ukrainian Territories(which they already hold part of Donbas and Crimea to begin with, so it's not really 20% gain in this war), about 15% Ukrainian Natural resource which now worth around 1.7 trillion dollar (estimated Ukrainian Natural Resource worth around 12.5 trillion dollars) that's it.

What they lose?

about 7% Kursk. 50-70% of their entire military stock, between 500,000-700,000 killed, wounded and missing soldier, a highly inflated economy, losing almost all the Western Market beside Hungary and so on. Losing a large chunk of work force.

Now if you just look at what Ukrainian lose, of course you are going to see Russian come out ahead. But look at it this way, all these loses and making an arse out of their economy, for 15% of Ukrainian Natural Resource? That 1 trillion or so Russian gain would have to devoted into rebuilding their own military, and fix their own economy and then some, in an alternative universe, what if Russia just trade with Ukraine and get those 1.7 trillion Resource that way? I am pretty sure it is going to end up a lot better than what it was today. Instead, they are getting a beat up in their economy and establishing a hostile neighbor that EU and US President after Trump is going to support to the fullest, for what exactly?

Russia has lost lots of men and equipment, 500k dead is grossly exaggerated. Around 300k dead is more likely but that is still a heavy toll.

However you have to look at this geo-strategically what is the end result of this carnage, the areas putin control are not worth $1.7trn its more closer to $6trn. The ceasefire will secure putins access to the blacksea, minerals and other resources. It ensure Ukraine stays Neutral, the biggest loser is Ukraine.

Sweden, Finland joining Nato doesn't in reality change much on the ground, Russia was always out gunned to begin with thats why they have thousands of nukes.

Zelenski wont last long, as I said I will not be surprised to see a pro putin puppet installed in Kiev. Europe and Zelenski got done over hard core. The real benefactor in all this the US and China to a lesser degree.
 
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very smart move from Zelenskyy
he links the $500 billion minerals deal with US security guarantees.

Trump is angry.
very angry
he threatens, he throws insults at Zielinski.

but now Trump has the choice, he rejects it then the russians could overrun Ukraine eventually and they would take everything, or
he signs the deal and sends US weapons, US troops to Ukraine.

that’s something small countries can learn.

 
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Terminator seems like an interesting tank armed with four anti tank missile launchers and two 30 mm cannons.

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"Na sooka bomb diggidityy, bomb digidiity bomb!"

Magyar's Birds have been busy this week.

Boom of the week starts at @ 3:10 and keeps on giving.

Dismount not quick enough and tank leaves infantry unsupported @ 4:15.

Possible tosser at 5:30.

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Ukraine is running out of CV90 tanks.

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Uke SOF raided a Russian outpost, reportedly in Zaporizhzhia.

Other Russians filmed the aftermath.

Very NSFW.

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Not enough aspirin for the headache that one dude has.
 
Russia has lost lots of men and equipment, 500k dead is grossly exaggerated. Around 300k dead is more likely but that is still a heavy toll.

However you have to look at this geo-strategically what is the end result of this carnage, the areas putin control are not worth $1.7trn its more closer to $6trn. The ceasefire will secure putins access to the blacksea, minerals and other resources. It ensure Ukraine stays Neutral, the biggest loser is Ukraine.

Sweden, Finland joining Nato doesn't in reality change much on the ground, Russia was always out gunned to begin with thats why they have thousands of nukes.

Zelenski wont last long, as I said I will not be surprised to see a pro putin puppet installed in Kiev. Europe and Zelenski got done over hard core. The real benefactor in all this the US and China to a lesser degree.
500-700k is dead wounded and missing, not just dead.

And there is no way Russian occupied land is worth 6 trillion in natural resource Russian occupied around 15% of all Ukrainian Natural Resources

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If Russian occupied land worth 6 trillion in natural resource that mean the entire Ukraine have more than 40 trillion natural resources (Simple math, X * 0.15 = 6, X = 40), that would put them world number 3 behind Russia (75 trillion) and USA (45 trillion) and ahead of resource rich Middle Eastern country and China..........


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I don't know what type of figure you are referring to with that 6 trillion, maybe that's total worth including land worth, but you would have to rebuild the area before you can use the land for any purposes, including farming as the area was mainly in rubble and littered with UXO.

As for peace plan, again, I don't see how Russia can dictate term with just 20% of land they hold, Ukraine will not stay neutral, it WILL BE PRO-WEST, if Ukraine stay neutral post war, that an open invitation to Russian for Round 2, maybe 5 to 10 years down the road, you may as well just surrender their country now if they had to stay neutral after the war, which mean unless Russia can threaten Ukraine directly and not just swimming in the shallow end of the ocean, they won't drop NATO bid. And Russia at this point is not strong enough to go over Donbas. Russia can try to claw more land but it would be hard press to actually do it within the time frame Trump is president in the next 4 years, they will still be moving slowly in Donbas unless things change drastically like organise a general mobilisation, which most people don't see it coming.

and lol, there WILL NOT BE a pro-Russian puppet install in Ukraine in probably the next 100 years as long as there is an independent election held in Ukraine. Unless again Russia can strong arm Ukraine into this by rolling enough Ukrainian territories or taking Kyiv directly. Both are unlikely going to happen. I don't know what you think about the "peace talk" is going to be, if it was held now, it's not going to be on the way to the Russian side, because Russia does not have enough progress to either have Ukraine concede the NATO bid or even force a Ukrainian election or force Zelenskyy to resign, nobody is going to surrender anything about their country when their enemy only occupy 20% of it. You don't surrender the other 80% for that 20. In fact, the most Russia can ask Ukraine is to vacate Donbas so they can take that as a whole, and Ukraine can say no to it because they can wait, Trump is not going to last forever, which mean, they only need to wait it out for 2 or 4 years for another admin change or mid-term with the house change. The key is what can Russia do in the next 2 to 4 years. and judging from the current progress, it ain't going to be much even if US say I am not going to supply you anything anymore. Ukraine already had been almost a year without US assistance, again, the last aid package from US was passed on April 17 2024. And unlike in 2023, Europe had stepped up for their aid.
 
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Would have been nice to not have the music and instead hear the soldier talking. Very interesting indeed.
 
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