Russia-Ukraine War - News, Discussions & Updates

[Aziqbal]

Ukraine say it shot down kinzhel

Here for the first time caught on camera

You can’t see it on normal camera speed

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[Corax]

The targeting of civilian residential buildings and maternity hospitals would say otherwise

Like the Israelis are doing in Gaza then?

 

[Viet]

Ch

China has to.
If Russia loses, evil USA will turn next to China.
Don't pretend you don't know this.

ask yourself. what´s the benefits for Ccp if joining the war? most people don´t understand China. the chinese are not that crazy. they will join a foreign war only if China as nation and people is at stake. it is just Vietnam and Korea. no other country. that was the case in the past 2,000y und will be the case in the future.

what´s the benefits for the US to attack China? I can´t imagine a single scenario. Russia is not important for China as you may think. as cheap gas station yes but strategically Russia is a nobody under Putin.

 

[Deino]

God is on Russia's side. God is not on Ukraine's side. God's will > your will. You are a mortal. You cannot beat God.

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Can you please stop again with this stupid BS and the constant posting of pure Russian propaganda?

We banned you already at the old PDF almost weekly so please do't continue with the same BS here!

 

[Yommie]

Why would China enter others people wars? That’s complete shit. Chinese go to war if they are attacked or if either Vietnam or Korea is involved. Otherwise they don’t care.

North Korea got bullied in 1950 and China entered the war. Russia is China's most important asset, even more so than North Korea. If Ukraine attacks Russia then China enter the war.

China has an unspoken policy. An attack on China's neighbors is an attack on China itself.

 

[Yommie]

China maximum will supply weapons or money to Russia.
China will only involve directly if their Sovereignty is in danger.

This was the reason China was involved in Korea war and also Vietnam war, when US entered in those countries.

If we look in world map, and current US trade war with China, it seems US will try to enter via India. Only Indian border seems risky for China.



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No way Indians are climbing over Himalayas. And even if they can, they cannot cross the vast freezing cold deserts and plateau. Not even northern Indians can do that.

Japan was only able to invade China with an amphibious landing at Shanghai.

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[Viet]

North Korea got bullied in 1950 and China entered the war. Russia is China's most important asset, even more so than North Korea. If Ukraine attacks Russia then China enter the war.

China has an unspoken policy. An attack on China's neighbors is an attack on China itself.

Ah nonsense
Chinese want peace and prosperity. They want a stable environment to make business, making money. Nothing else. Not war. Least in other people wars.
Russia delivers cheap gas, cheap oil, cheap market for chinese products. The latter is even less and less important.
Russia economy is about the size of Spain. It’s like saying Spain is super important is ridiculous.

 

[Hari Sud]

Does the US desire an end to the war in Ukraine?

The primary objective of this conflict is not merely to bring about the cessation of hostilities in Ukraine and recover Ukrainian land occupied by Russia. Instead, it aims to weaken Russia through both military engagement and economic sanctions. Ukrainian forces contribute manpower, while the US and various European nations supply military equipment. Concealed motivations on the part of the West include testing new weapons, facilitating future marketing endeavors, and asserting geopolitical influence.

The financial toll on the US in prosecuting this war is estimated at $70 to $80 billion, with additional support from other European countries totaling around $40 billion. Tragically, the loss of approximately 200,000 Ukrainian young men and the destruction of civilian infrastructure may result in costs reaching $100 billion.

Russia is also paying a substantial price in terms of human lives and material resources, albeit with a comparatively smaller economy than the US and Europe. To sustain the conflict, Russia relies on selling oil and gas in the global market.

Can the US and Europe achieve their goals?

The prospect of Russia's defeat or surrender in this war appears highly unlikely. Although the ongoing conflict inflicts damage upon Russia, its large population and significant oil export customer base provide resilience. The war can persist as long as the West is willing. Countries such as the US and the UK, aligned in support, face upcoming elections where anti-war sentiments among voters may influence a reassessment of their stance.

The anticipation is that a subdued drone war will persist until the next US elections. The ultimate fate of the conflict will hinge on the policy decisions of the next occupant of the White House.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Turkey blocks Royal Navy ships sent to Ukraine as NATO falls apart

Turkey says it will not allow two British Royal Navy ships intended for Ukraine to pass through its waters.

www.express.co.uk

>> I agree with Turkey on this - the treaty must be respected - fully.

 

[VCheng]

Russia is also paying a substantial price in terms of human lives and material resources, albeit with a comparatively smaller economy than the US and Europe. To sustain the conflict, Russia relies on selling oil and gas in the global market.

Russia chose to invade Ukraine. Let us not forget that little detail.

 

[Yommie]

Yup. This is why Taurida and Donba which are historically Russian areas voted to leave Ukraine and rejoin Russia.

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[Yommie]

Russia chose to invade Ukraine. Let us not forget that little detail.

Yup. Just like the US chose to invade Europe and fight Nazi Germany. It's not like the US had to.

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[Yommie]

Ah nonsense
Chinese want peace and prosperity. They want a stable environment to make business, making money. Nothing else. Not war. Least in other people wars.
Russia delivers cheap gas, cheap oil, cheap market for chinese products. The latter is even less and less important.
Russia economy is about the size of Spain. It’s like saying Spain is super important is ridiculous.

Try invade Russia and find out what China will do.

 

[VCheng]

Yup. Just like the US chose to invade Europe and fight Nazi Germany. It's not like the US had to.

Ah I see. Russia had to invade Ukraine. Sure, but then it has to bear all the consequences too. And any rewards that it deems worth the effort and the price.

 

[Yommie]

Ah I see. Russia had to invade Ukraine. Sure, but then it has to bear all the consequences too. And any rewards that it deems worth the effort and the price.

Of course, every invasion has consequences. It's likely at this point millions of Russians will die in war. But that's life. C'est la vie.