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j_hungary said:
The position of the troop between Kharkiv and Sumy suggested that is a grant assault, and the lack of activities in other front also suggested this is not a diversion operation. This is more like an attack into Northern Ukraine trying to divide the line and attack into Kupiansk from another direction (again, you need to take Kupiansk to take Donbas, otherwise it basically no chance for them to just work up from the south) but have to launch early since US is once again supplying Ukraine with weapon

The issue is the "Buffer Zone" concept was basically null by US allowing Ukraine to strike within 200 miles (or KM? I don't remember) because it would be well enough for Ukraine to use all sort of US Weaponry (Base bleed round/M30 MLRS/ATACAM) from even Kharkiv City, that specifically was designed to targeting the Belgorod supply base, which mean it's now going to be harder to mass troop/equipment for Russian in Belgorod, and that no doubt (if they have enough munition) would saturate that front and forcing the entire battle South. Kharkiv front is gone, and it's never going to be back (again, assume Ukraine have enough munition) Which is going to force the effort south, which mean whatever Russian loss in the Kharkiv campaign is basically wasted. They aren't going to be able (if ever again) to attack from that direction, and they didn't exploit elsewhere enough to warrant this offensive.
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The russians are classic brute force. They have artillery en mass. Most russo artillery are of Soviet style have low precision, range lower than 30km. First, they move artillery closer to target, then second, turn everything to ashes, then finally, the infantry moving in killing everything that moves.

Kharkiv is about 30km to Russia border. Thus the russian zombies move artillery, tanks, rocket launchers closer to the city.
 
KingQamaR said:
Well, the fact that NATO is admitting that Russia is outproducing them is interesting...
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well, they need to give some reality checks to ukrainians and their expectations, meanwhile those are fleeing to hungary with military trucks, resistance to conscription is widespread and hardly contained, they are cracking internally as their local population realize that democracy pipe dream is not worth of endless meat grind on front lines just for merely maintaining front lines stable.
 
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Mobius said:
Very well said. Russia will win this war no matter the cost. I've stated this from day one. If it's territorial integrity is threatened, then it'll turn Ukraine into a nuclear wasteland before anyone else can get their hand on it. Every well researched analyst understands this.
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Yes, I have said repeatedly same. Russia cannot lose this war. If that day comes it will bring collective punishment for most of the world.... Nukes.
Russia loses or not but West is not a winner in this war.
 
mulj said:
well, they need to give some reality checks to ukrainians and their expectations, meanwhile those are fleeing to hungary with military trucks, resistance to conscription is widespread and hardly contained, they are cracking internally as their local population realize that democracy pipe dream is not worth of endless meat grind on front lines just for merely maintaining front lines stable.
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I don't see how using 200.000 or 300.000 inexperienced forcefully CONSCRIPTS
instead if 200- or 300.000 veteran
VOLUNTEERS (which are in dire need of a break) will improve Ukraine's situation..
 
F-22Raptor said:
The Russian butt kissers have massively shifted their goalposts from March 2022. It’s gone from taking Kyiv, Kharkiv, and Odessa to celebrating taking a trench line. And apparently it doesn’t matter if 1,000,000 Russians are dead and wounded and they take tens of thousands of equipment losses. But muuuh trench line.

Thats what this war has come to. The sooner Putin and Russias sycophants come to the understanding they’ve lost this war, the better for humanity.
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The problem for Ukraine is always the same lack of power.


Well they had 250k troops in 2022 But something happened to them 🤕
 
TopGun786 said:
Russia cannot lose this war. If that day comes it will bring collective punishment for most of the world.... Nukes.
Russia loses or not but West is not a winner in this war.
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I agree. The Americans and British are obsessed with making Russia lose this war,so much that they dragged almost all of the EU to this and demand victory even if the European economy is destroyed. They had no reason to keep pushing it and trying to take Ukraine under the sphere of influence. They already had almost all of Eastern Europe in NATO.
 
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Drunk Medvedev speaking more sense then the idiots in NATO.

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KingQamaR said:
“According to NATO intelligence estimates, Russia is on track to produce nearly three times as many artillery shells this year
[2024]-about 3 million-as the United States and Europe combined (about 1.2 million), " -CFR
Guess what the main killer in this war is...
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First of all, the problem is, according to the US intelligence back in Nov 2022, Russia is using 20000 round a day.

www.nbcnews.com

Russia and Ukraine are firing 24,000 or more artillery rounds a day

Russia has lost a lot of equipment, including helicopters, and some of its fresh troops are arriving at the front lines without weapons, say officials.
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com

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That's 7,300,000 round a year. So, setting aside the fact that Western Doctrine is not Artillery intensive (as this is actually the least effective option in war), hence the low number in the west, Russia production is not really enough to sustain their own usage for a year, less than half a year to be exact. Actually this is a piece of alarming news if you are Russian.

The issue with Artillery is, you have to fire a whole lot to achieve saturation, and it's pointless to use against hardened structure. For example. 12 152mm guns would need to shoot all their assigned ammunition (50 per) to cover a 0.3 square kilometer (300x300 meter box) and then it wouldn't be enough to destroy that square completely. Meaning whatever you wanted to kill will probably still active after that round of 600. The Western Doctrine would have used a single or a couple of missiles/JDAM to engage that target, instead of firing 600 or more artillery round.

On the other hand, you can only engage a very short distant with Artillery (<50 km) so regardless of how many round you shoot, whatever outside that range is safe and it's prone to counter battery fire. Which the latter was not at all active because the US withhold the aid for more than 6 months.

Comparing artillery round made between the West and Russia is not really showing anything. What you need to look at is how they use them and their progress, the reason why Kharkiv Offensive (2024) is the "best" advance the Russian had in the last 18 months in itself showing the deficiency of the Russian military. Given the fact that US withheld their aid when they account for over 60% of Ukrainian supply and the fact that Ukrainian leave the border open is a strategic mistake.
 
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