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It's not as good as Malva which has ballistic radar and digital fire control.

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M777 is not as good as Malva which is more advanced.

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Here we are at the 3rd anniversary of the war. Here are all the visually documented losses. If you don’t believe this, go to the link above and there are attached photos to each and every loss.

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Nearly 11,000 total tank and armor losses for Russia.
 
Zero meters engagement between an Ukrainian Bradley and a Russian BTR-82 8 months ago

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Well.......It didn't end well for the BTR-82......That crew is either dead or incapacitated. And the infantry on top of that BTR...........

This is some 16 months after the first Bradley in service, and the Russian still frontal a Bradley. That 25mm chain gun will eat up the BTR, that's why you can still see the BTR shooting straight forward when they already passed the Bradley. That show you the gunner inside most likely is dead.

If the Russian was properly trained with armoured warfare, they will know the correct response is not shooting your 12.7mm while mad dashing it, they should do a J-turn (or Sagger Turn) and get into the bush and try to get to the side of that Bradley.

I wouldn't want to go in that BTR and clean it up..........
 
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KingQamaR said:
They don,t want to liberate it all.
They used the same trap as in ww2 in kursk.
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Ukraine is losing a lot of men and equipment in Kursk. This weakens Ukraine's defense in Donbas. It's very hard for Ukraine to defend Kursk. It's all empty flat land with very few roads for logistics and supply.
 
j_hungary said:
The issue here is, maybe in the future, but at this point, no.

Maybe in 2 years time if and when Russia manage to take Kramatorsk or Slaviansk or both, MAYEBE then they can talk about ending the war in Russian favour,

I don't know what kind of negotiation you deal with before, you don't talk about things that "might" happen in the future as a measurement stick, if this is the case, then Ukraine would have capitulated day 3 in this war in that talk, because it work on the premises of "I am coming to get you" and 3 years later, they are still going.

Whether or not would there be a drop in Ukrainian performance without US support remain to be seen, because war are dynamic, you also need to take the attacker progress into accounts, just because Ukraine may lack US support, which now being relegated to 1/3 anyway, is things that in the future, the issue here is, Russia is NOT remotely close to be able to threaten the Kyiv Administration NOW, if so why the rush to the talk now? Why not just wait until that time has come before you talk, Ukraine still holding 80% of the land, it's not like they are going to disappear overnight.
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If the lines are frozen as they stand it's already in Russia's favor. Trump has publicly said Zelensky won't have a country left AND Zelensky has no cards to play. That's already in Russia's favor. Ukraine isn't even involved in the negotiations. You don't have to look to the future just examine these facts.

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What's that have to do with what Russian capable then and what's Russian been capable now?

On the other hand, if you know anything about how war is being fought or how tactics and strategic work, I can dissect EVERY battle in the first 6 months of this war and tell you how incompetent Russian was, and show you how they are not just showing their "good side"

But I doubt that you understand any of what I would have to say then.
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Don't need analysis from someone who fails to recognize realities on the ground. Thanks for the offer. You talk about how the future is not guaranteed but you're so sure Ukraine will be in NATO even though the main decision makers disagree with you. What would your analysis have to offer?

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Cry foul? Dude, you are the one talking about Russian is showing their "good side" seems like you are the one crying foul after disappointment of the war.

And lol, you say that as if Russian have not been murdering and massacring your Muslim brethren. They kill more Muslim in Afghanistan, Dagestan and Chechen in the 20 years of war since 1989 than Israel in the last 50 years. I mean maybe they don't care, and they kill it in public and you think that's something you're okay about it? I don't know, but you have a weird sense of logic.

And finally, the myth of US killed 500,000 Iraqi children by sanction has been debunked many times. It got so bad that UNICEF have to issue an explanation on what they said

https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Iraqi-death-toll-doesnt-add-up.pdf
Plus, that was an action from UN security council, which mean China, Russia, UK and France are equally as guilty if there were actually 567000 children died in Iraq due to sanction.
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I do care about the Muslims harmed by Russians - but Russia today is not participating in those kinds of conflicts. This isn't about quantity of people killed "Russians killed more than Israelis" is irrelevant. There will be a time for Russians to answer for their crimes and you won't find any sympathy for Russian casualties either.

Thanks for pointing out the guilt of the UNSC, I agree.

j_hungary said:
What do you think will happen to Ukraine in 4 years?
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The provinces Russia currently occupies will be recognized as Russian territory.

The following depends on many factors including Russia's willingness to decouple from China and the true threat of China to US:
1) Russia will control territory up to Dnipro river.
2) Ukraine will be landlocked as Russia will take Odessa
3) Ukraine will be demilitarized and will be forced to concede they will never be in NATO.

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US taken the entire Afghanistan in 30 days and occupy it for 20 years, and who is governing Afghanistan now? I can assure you Ukraine have established insurgency in Russian occupation area, I know because I train some of them with Recondo and Insurgency technique when I was there. This is not just tank roll over to Kyiv, game over. War don't fight like that anymore. Beside, we are talking what's going to happen AFTER Russian took Ukraine as a whole, that's going to take decades, if it was ever possible.

and 4 years is a very short time frame to conquer a country as big as Ukraine. Even if the line start crumbling today, it's going to take years for Russian to march into Kyiv, because there are numerous BUND and NUND and strong point defence in between and they need to take them one by one like how they take Bakhmut or Avdiivka. The only way the Russian can take Kyiv Overnight is when Zelenskyy just give up and dissolve the government, which is what the Russian was hoping for at the beginning of this war, and if he didn't do it then when Russia is at max strength, he certainly will not do it now.
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Again (x3) Russia does not want to occupy all of Ukraine. Look at the situation dynamically :
- Without American support the Europeans will fight amongst themselves for scraps. This isn't predicting the future you can see this happening already. Because of this support for Ukraine will drop drastically and Russian advances will accelerate.
- Look at the two biggest funders of Ukraine - US, Germany. Trump is pushing Zelensky out and publicly he wants this war over and will revoke support. Germany elections show AfD support much greater than before. AfD shows willingness to get closer to Russia the government will be forced to listen to their voices especially considering the energy prices have crippled German manufacturing which is a direct consequence of this war.

I could go on but you keep repeating Russia wants Kiev and western Ukraine and refuse to look at the situation dynamically.
 
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Yommie said:
Ukraine is losing a lot of men and equipment in Kursk. This weakens Ukraine's defense in Donbas. It's very hard for Ukraine to defend Kursk. It's all empty flat land with very few roads for logistics and supply.
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Tbh i don't understand why Zelensky is trying to hold Kursk as hard as possible. I assume it's for propaganda fuel and NAFO can cope with "Russia can't even kick Ukraine off its land" completely ignoring what is happening in the Donbass front.
 
Zelenski should stop listening to his western handlers who have helped to completey destroy his country with fake promises and now their eyes are on robbing its natural resources.

If Zelenski was a real leader he would go to Moscow speak to Putin agree a ceasefire, where he bends the knee. Better to bend the knee to Putin go neutral and rebuild the country than get suck dry by count trumpastein.
 
Why is Zelenski not using his Zio brothers network to make Trump lick his rear end......Israelis can make this happen....
 
That's one way to dodge a drone, I reckon...

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