Russia-Ukraine War - News, Discussions & Updates

[BHAN85]

Well, considering this

If Russia have issue to deal with 700,000 poorly equipped Ukrainian Troop. Can they actually deal with a couple of Armored Division comes with proper CAS capability?

The capability for Russia to actually make war is quite obviously shown in their lack of progression in Ukraine. It's not the case they are facing inferior troop hence their inferior performance. Their lack of Progress because frankly they sucked, their performance won't get better facing European Troop.

There is a reason why Putin don't want European Troop in Ukraine to act as peacekeeper.

Beside, as I said numerous time, Ukraine have option, they don't need to have a talk right now, if I were Zelenskyy, I will munch on Euoprean support and stay low and play defensively for the next 1 to 3 years and then wait it out. If Russia suddenly make significant gain or MAGA is not going away, then they can still talk, it's not like Russia can suddenly become so efficient coming from so disorganise and rolled up Ukraine flank left and right in the next 3 years, can it happen? Sure, anything can happen, but I will say the chance Ukraine will get a better deal in 3 years' time is higher than the chance Ukraine would have their entire flank rolled out.

Russia is a crap in conventional war, we've already seen it. And Europe is well armed in conventional war.

But Russia is lethal in nuclear war. Conventional weapons can never win against nuclear weapons.

The only thing that restraint Russia for use nukes is USA.

Is USA interested in keep restraining Russia from use nukes in European soil? I think the answer is no. I think the answer from beginning in 2014 was no, but they had to deceive and persuade European vassals to fall in the swamp.

The background world problem is lack of enough raw materials and energy for world economy, and the obvious USA solution is drop rich vassals like Europe through destruction wars that will impoverish and decrease world resources waste.

 

[BHAN85]

It is not decided because any peacemaking will necessarily have to include the Americans who are not willing to do this. It is just empty words from the European leadership that does absolutely nothing, a bunch of whiners trying to be relevant in a world where Europe is no longer as relevant as it should be.

Europe is over.

USA approves send European troops to Ukraine.
USA doesnt approve send USA troops to Ukraine.

Trump even tried to deceive Macron with lies about it, saying that Putin wouldnt care about it. So yes, USA wants European troops in Ukraine, and the vassals bootlickers have already accepted.

BTW EU have approved increased of 800 bn in defense spending, so no empty words, there are actions already.
800 bn for whole EU is like 2,000 USD of increase of military spending by each European Union citizen.

 

[Viet]

and in another week a body in a trench. LOL. It is okay, Europe should keep fighting, it is good for China.

ah come on
that’s war not kindergarten.
war is deaths and destruction.
Zielinski has more guts than Ccp.
that’s the reality.

Look at the Panama deal
2 weeks ago Trump threatens with military action because of alleged chinese control over the canal.
now Hutchinson sells the ports to Bkackrock, an US company.
Trump is happy.
shame on you
keep laughing
Trump’s endgame is China.

 

[Han Patriot]

ah come on
that’s war not kindergarten.
war is deaths and destruction.
Zielinski has more guts than Ccp.
that’s the reality.

Look at the Panama deal
2 weeks ago Trump threatens with military action because of alleged chinese control over the canal.
now Hutchinson sells the ports to Bkackrock, an US company.
Trump is happy.
shame on you
keep laughing
Trump’s endgame is China.

Hutchison is a private HK company, they can sell whatever they want. We can't stop them mate. You talk as if death is inevitable, no war no death. No NATO expansion, No War. So simple!

 

[Viet]

Hutchison is a private HK company, they can sell whatever they want. We can't stop them mate. You talk as if death is inevitable, no war no death. No NATO expansion, No War. So simple!

lame excuse
the US gov can stop every private hostile takeover.
Europe can.
China gov can’t?

very possible no war if Nato not expanding to the east
now too late
but what were the reasons for 200 wars since end of WW2? can you explain?

 

[sutton9999]

Hutchison $20B deal (30+ port asset) was under negotiation before Trump was elected.

The owner, Lee (the richest person in HK), relinquished most of his assets in China ten years ago, instead bought utility assets in the UK, ended up losing money and quit.

Trump knows the deal underway, create some fuss to score cheap points.

 

[j_hungary]

But Russia is lethal in nuclear war. Conventional weapons can never win against nuclear weapons.

If this is the case, then Ukraine would not have survived 3 years to begin with.

There is a time and a place to use nuclear weapons, invading a neighbor country and losing it, is not the time, again, this has been discussed multiple time, not going to repeat what I said time and time again, and there is a reason why with all the "red line" crossed, EVEN THE ULTIMATE REDLINE which is the invasion of Russia soil and still no nuclear weapon use, did that tell you something?

 

[KingQamaR]

UK has around 73,000 active personnel. If UK annouces emergency they can increase the force easily, they have the money, manpower and technology. Ukraine currently has 700,000 active personnel but before the war they had way less.

In the case of a war with Russia, it's not a case of how many you have, but how many more you can create, and in what time frame. What you have will only get you so far. What can you do in the long term?

 

[RescueRanger]

Polite notice Arugmentative posts will be deleted. Stay within the forum rules.

 

[RescueRanger]

My country Uk has around 19,000 active duty infantry. 1/3 rotation. 1/3 on the front line. 1/3 in reserve and 1/3 on rest. 6,000 uk troops at best could probably guard Kiev for a week

How did you arrive at this 19000 number?

On 1 April 2024 the total size of the full-time UK armed forces (trained and untrained) was around 148,230 personnel. Over half of personnel were within the Army (56%), with the remainder being equally split between the Royal Navy/Royal Marines (RN/RM) and the Royal Air Force (RAF).



Source:

UK defence personnel statistics

This briefing provides information on how UK armed forces personnel statistics are measured and discusses current and historic strength levels. Statistics on the diversity of the armed forces, people joining and leaving, and surplus or deficits of strength against targets are also discussed.

commonslibrary.parliament.uk

 

[BHAN85]

If this is the case, then Ukraine would not have survived 3 years to begin with.

There is a time and a place to use nuclear weapons, invading a neighbor country and losing it, is not the time, again, this has been discussed multiple time, not going to repeat what I said time and time again, and there is a reason why with all the "red line" crossed, EVEN THE ULTIMATE REDLINE which is the invasion of Russia soil and still no nuclear weapon use, did that tell you something?

It's already said in the post, learn to read.
Russia has not dared to use nuclear weapons without USA permission.
When Trump will give the greenlight, Russia will nuke the shit out of Ukraine and Europe..


Banned in this thread by @RescueRanger so impossible to answer his lies.
Nice way of debate.

Only France and UK have own nukes in Europe.

Now enjoy this thread only for you and your propaganda shit good bye

 

[Viet]

It will take years, if not decades. Your weak heart may not wait for that long.

let see
I live here in Germany.
I know the people.
Hitler rebuilt Germany economy and military in 5 years after the total defeat in WW1.

I have no doubt Germany can do the same today within 5 years. what it needs is a strongman.
if the russians want war, they will get it.
Remember Soviet Russia surrendered to Germany in WW1.

 

[RescueRanger]

Russia will nuke the $$$$ out of Ukraine and Europe.

You act as if Europe doesn't have it's own response in that department. Quit lifting Russia's skirt, she is not going to reciprocate.

 

[j_hungary]

It's already said in the post, learn to read.
Russia has not dared to use nuclear weapons without USA permission.
When Trump will give the greenlight, Russia will nuke the shit out of Ukraine and Europe..


Banned in this thread by @RescueRanger so impossible to answer his lies.
Nice way of debate.

Only France and UK have own nukes in Europe.

Now enjoy this thread only for you and your propaganda shit good bye

So the fact that Moscow is some 400km from Kharkiv sand 744 km from Kyiv is not the issue why Russian didn't use nuke? That's A-OK, they don't use nuke because Russia did not dare using nuke without US permission?



Sure, nuke the shit out of Ukraine, PLEASE DO. It will do the world a favor.

 

[j_hungary]

You act as if Europe doesn't have it's own response in that department. Quit lifting Russia's skirt, she is not going to reciprocate.

If Russia nuke Ukraine with Strategic Nuclear device (100kt plus), Europe wouldn't need to do nothing as long as the wind blow in the right direction and Moscow will be cover from Fallout of its own nuke.......

Rule number 1 of using nuclear bomb, DO NOT USE IT ON THE COUNTRY NEXT TO YOU. It's the same principal as "Grenade rolls downhill"

But then of course, this guy will then say Russia can control where the wind blow...