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Proposals by Ra (Memorandum on the Settlement of the Ukrainian Crisis Section 1 raco Main parameters of the final settlement 1) International legal recognition of the incorporation of Crimea, LPR, DPR, Zaporizhzhia and Kherson regions into the Russian Federation; Complete withdrawal of Ukrainian Armed Forces units and other Ukrainian paramilitary formations from their territories; 2) Ukraine's neutrality, implying its refusal to join military alliances and coalitions, as well as a ban on any military activity of third countries on the territory of Ukraine, including foreign armed formations, military bases and military infrastructure; rac 3) termination of the validity of international treaties and agreements that are incompatible with the provisions of paragraph 2 of this Section, 4) confirmation of Ukraine's status as a state that does not possess nuclear and other weapons of mass destruction, with a direct ban on their acceptance, transit and deployment on the territory of Ukraine, 5) establishing the maximum number of Ukrainian Armed Forces and other military formations, the maximum number of weapons and military equipment, and the characteristics of Ukrainian nationalist formations in the composition of 30 and the National Guard; 6) ensuring the full rights and interests of the Russian-speaking population; granting Russian the status of an official language; 7) a legislative ban on the glorification and propaganda of Nazism and neo-Nazism, and the dissolution of nationalist organisations and parties; 8) the lifting of all existing economic sanctions, bans and restrictive measures between the Russian Federation and Ukraine, and a refusal to introduce new ones; 2) the resolution of a range of issues related to reunification and displaced persons;
 
Then explain to me on what grounds Israel bombed Iran? On what grounds is Israel bombing Syria? It's none of its business. The US bombed Iran — what business does the US have in Iran? Is Iran threatening the US?
you can question yourself how a country Israel bombs a country Iran 10x times the size? gross incompentence from the Iran army, the Mulahs?
I am not expert.
 
Logic doesn't work for the brainwashed.

Anything to excuse the idiotic decisions of dear leader.

You'll see examples of this everywhere, Trump in the us, modi in India, and every other wanna be tin pot napoleon.
You don't know this troll. He is one of the biggest hypocrite on this forum.
This thing i said to him in first time in 2023..... Since then i have said multiple times and I am happy he never proved me wrong.
 
you can question yourself how a country Israel bombs a country Iran 10x times the size? gross incompentence from the Iran army, the Mulahs?
I am not expert.
You skipped what he asked.
 
You skipped what he asked.
what question? you mean what grounds Israel bombs Iran, Syria? why the US bombs everywhere? because they can. the world is a jungle. only the fittest survves.
the problem with Iran is they speak more than they act. look at North Korea. develop nukes, then talk later.
 
what question? you mean what grounds Israel bombs Iran, Syria? why the US bombs everywhere? because they can. the world is a jungle. only the fittest survves.
the problem with Iran is they speak more than they act. look at North Korea. develop nukes, then talk later.
Because they can..... Well well well
 
Again, this war is NOT going to stop until there are something both side can take away, which is not in the case now. You can't stop a war because it just inconvenience anyone, you need a reason to.

On the other hand, US already DID stopped delivery of weapon, that's why I said, had this talk done a year ago, there may be some pull into it, because US can threaten Ukraine for not supplying weapon to them, but since they had stop and they didn't lose that much territories, where is the pull on that? US has taken itself out of this equation.

Again, as I said, even if Europe did not step in, Russia lost that momentum a long time ago, they can grind on, but the Russia would have to lose an abundant amount of people just to claw a few inch of land, there aren't any progress at all in 2024, unlike the last time Trump withhold weapon in 2023, they lost Avdiivka, this time Russia not even able to capture Provosk.

This war will only ends either Russia in a position be able to threaten Ukraine, into which they can suppress Ukrainian decision to join NATO, or this war is going to end if Ukraine make a breakthru in the battlefield, NEITHER is happening anytime soon, which mean whatever Trump talks to Putin, without Ukraine and European input, are moot.



As mush as Zelensky and his backers want! That it might continue for several years does not change the the facts UKR already lost the war a while ago.
 
As mush as Zelensky and his backers want! That it might continue for several years does not change the the facts UKR already lost the war a while ago.
lol, do you really believe Ukraine lost the war? As I said before, the only way Ukraine is defeated is when Ukraine completely rolled over by Russia, because as long as Ukraine is independent, they are going to join NATO, and this is something Russia has no say on. Unless Russia can rolled up Ukraine in a rate that Kyiv felt threaten. That changes nothing for Russia, I mean what good does it do Russia if they got 20% of Ukraine and the other 80% goes to NATO, that's a loss for them.

On the other hand, NATO's border had already expanded, and that's not going back, so strategically, Russia already lost that even if they can completely capture Ukraine. All in the while Russian current inflation rate is 9.4%, remember what it looks like for the cost of living during 22 and 23? Russia is still at that stage, the only difference is, onaverage we have around $16,000 disposable income and Russian average disposable income is $800 and median age is going to be risen to 45 in 2030 and 49 in 2040, that's 5 years after child bearing age, which mean if nothing is done, the Russian population is going to disappear in 70-80 years. So can we say that's a win for Russia for all that in return of 20% of Ukrainian land?

 
lol, do you really believe Ukraine lost the war? As I said before, the only way Ukraine is defeated is when Ukraine completely rolled over by Russia, because as long as Ukraine is independent, they are going to join NATO, and this is something Russia has no say on. Unless Russia can rolled up Ukraine in a rate that Kyiv felt threaten. That changes nothing for Russia, I mean what good does it do Russia if they got 20% of Ukraine and the other 80% goes to NATO, that's a loss for them.

On the other hand, NATO's border had already expanded, and that's not going back, so strategically, Russia already lost that even if they can completely capture Ukraine. All in the while Russian current inflation rate is 9.4%, remember what it looks like for the cost of living during 22 and 23? Russia is still at that stage, the only difference is, onaverage we have around $16,000 disposable income and Russian average disposable income is $800 and median age is going to be risen to 45 in 2030 and 49 in 2040, that's 5 years after child bearing age, which mean if nothing is done, the Russian population is going to disappear in 70-80 years. So can we say that's a win for Russia for all that in return of 20% of Ukrainian land?





Russia will never stop the military action until conditions are met for that. Just because talks are seemingly getting serious means nothing to the front untill conditions are met.
Basically going to be a Ukrainian unconditional or close to it surrender discussed as a negotiated cease fire.
 
Russia will never stop the military action until conditions are met for that. Just because talks are seemingly getting serious means nothing to the front untill conditions are met.
Basically going to be a Ukrainian unconditional or close to it surrender discussed as a negotiated cease fire.

Well, usually I will use a bunch of words and paragraph to try to explain who this work, but this time, I will just show you 6 photos.

this is the Russian progress as of August 11, 2025

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One month ago (July 11, 2025)

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3 months ago (May 11, 2025)

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1 year ago (August 11, 2024)

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2 years ago (August 11, 2023)

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And this is the Russian inflation rate Chart of the same period (For reference, US inflation rate in August 2023 is 3.7%, 2.5% in August 2024, and 2.7% in July 2025.)

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In short, for Ukraine to "Surrender" Russia need to be in a position that can directly threaten Kyiv, that's WEST side of the country by the way, and for Russia, inflation rate directly affect people purchasing power, the higher the inflation rate, the more you need to pay your worker, and that make a even higher inflation rate.

So would Ukraine surrender? I don't know, but I know one thing: NOBODY CAN CARRY ON FIGHTING forever, not Russia, not Ukraine, hell, not even the US, and in this case, you are looking at which set of pictures is being unattainable first? The Progress of the Russian conquest in Ukraine would reach its culmination first? Or the Russian inflation rate first. Bear in mind, as the graph shows, this is THE SECOND DIP, which mean whatever Russia had implemented back in early 2023 does not work. If there is a third one, that means the Russian economy becomes unsustainable

I will let you be the judge of that.
 
As mush as Zelensky and his backers want! That it might continue for several years does not change the the facts UKR already lost the war a while ago.
ironic
Putin has no shame at all he pays North koreans to kill his slavic brothers. but the Kim brothers face another war.
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lol, do you really believe Ukraine lost the war? As I said before, the only way Ukraine is defeated is when Ukraine completely rolled over by Russia, because as long as Ukraine is independent, they are going to join NATO, and this is something Russia has no say on. Unless Russia can rolled up Ukraine in a rate that Kyiv felt threaten. That changes nothing for Russia, I mean what good does it do Russia if they got 20% of Ukraine and the other 80% goes to NATO, that's a loss for them.

On the other hand, NATO's border had already expanded, and that's not going back, so strategically, Russia already lost that even if they can completely capture Ukraine. All in the while Russian current inflation rate is 9.4%, remember what it looks like for the cost of living during 22 and 23? Russia is still at that stage, the only difference is, onaverage we have around $16,000 disposable income and Russian average disposable income is $800 and median age is going to be risen to 45 in 2030 and 49 in 2040, that's 5 years after child bearing age, which mean if nothing is done, the Russian population is going to disappear in 70-80 years. So can we say that's a win for Russia for all that in return of 20% of Ukrainian land?


People can disagree and we have no idea what the future holds but from the current situation no doubt Russia is loosing, their economy and military is in a mess, Ukraine is fully supported by USA EU S Korea Japan Australia, even if their economy is destroyed, they can build it back up by joining EU but for Russia they will suffer for a long time. Not saying a total collapse is coming but they are certainly weaker, they lost Ukraine, Syria, Armenia, Georgia, everyone is dreaming of joining EU and Nato. Russia biggest failure started when Soviet Union collapsed, and Russia failed to form its own EU or Nato, which would then attract nations to join. People will say BRICS or SCO but it's just a paper grouping. We will only witness Russian comeback when Ukraine, Georgia, Armenia, ex Soviet nations all decide to reject Nato EU and join Russian block but they do not want to, the west has superior technology, economy, military and is getting stronger day by day. Today west is openly supporting Ukraine against Russia but Russia does not dare to arm its ally Iran against the west, same way how Russia could not protect Syria, Iraq, Libya from western invasion. Usa EU Israel Australia S Korea Japan GCC all are best buddies of each other. BRICS and SCO look good on paper but is it too late or can they create a multi polar world order.
 
Well, usually I will use a bunch of words and paragraph to try to explain who this work, but this time, I will just show you 6 photos.

this is the Russian progress as of August 11, 2025

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One month ago (July 11, 2025)

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3 months ago (May 11, 2025)

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1 year ago (August 11, 2024)

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2 years ago (August 11, 2023)

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And this is the Russian inflation rate Chart of the same period (For reference, US inflation rate in August 2023 is 3.7%, 2.5% in August 2024, and 2.7% in July 2025.)

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In short, for Ukraine to "Surrender" Russia need to be in a position that can directly threaten Kyiv, that's WEST side of the country by the way, and for Russia, inflation rate directly affect people purchasing power, the higher the inflation rate, the more you need to pay your worker, and that make a even higher inflation rate.

So would Ukraine surrender? I don't know, but I know one thing: NOBODY CAN CARRY ON FIGHTING forever, not Russia, not Ukraine, hell, not even the US, and in this case, you are looking at which set of pictures is being unattainable first? The Progress of the Russian conquest in Ukraine would reach its culmination first? Or the Russian inflation rate first. Bear in mind, as the graph shows, this is THE SECOND DIP, which mean whatever Russia had implemented back in early 2023 does not work. If there is a third one, that means the Russian economy becomes unsustainable

I will let you be the judge of that.



I don't think Russia wants all of Ukraine, only the primarily ethnic Russian regions.

Because Ukraine fortify all the Donbass frontline for 10 bloody years, and it take 3 years to Russia to pass it...
This is not un Map game, it is hell.
Those position whern't suposed to fall...

People like me are just witnessing from Kiev side ! They're not "giving up the ground for time" they are losing ground. They are losing this war.

Lots of people are not happy about it, just stating a fact.

We will find out next week’s meeting Trump and Putin. The Ukrainian outcome!
 
People can disagree and we have no idea what the future holds but from the current situation no doubt Russia is loosing, their economy and military is in a mess, Ukraine is fully supported by USA EU S Korea Japan Australia, even if their economy is destroyed, they can build it back up by joining EU but for Russia they will suffer for a long time. Not saying a total collapse is coming but they are certainly weaker, they lost Ukraine, Syria, Armenia, Georgia, everyone is dreaming of joining EU and Nato. Russia biggest failure started when Soviet Union collapsed, and Russia failed to form its own EU or Nato, which would then attract nations to join. People will say BRICS or SCO but it's just a paper grouping. We will only witness Russian comeback when Ukraine, Georgia, Armenia, ex Soviet nations all decide to reject Nato EU and join Russian block but they do not want to, the west has superior technology, economy, military and is getting stronger day by day. Today west is openly supporting Ukraine against Russia but Russia does not dare to arm its ally Iran against the west, same way how Russia could not protect Syria, Iraq, Libya from western invasion. Usa EU Israel Australia S Korea Japan GCC all are best buddies of each other. BRICS and SCO look good on paper but is it too late or can they create a multi polar world order.



It is reported Putin had said. We have 2 million Russian speaking Jews living in Israel. Why would we harm them . Iranians were daft to trust Moscow.
 
I don't think Russia wants all of Ukraine, only the primarily ethnic Russian regions.

Because Ukraine fortify all the Donbass frontline for 10 bloody years, and it take 3 years to Russia to pass it...
This is not un Map game, it is hell.
Those position whern't suposed to fall...

People like me are just witnessing from Kiev side ! They're not "giving up the ground for time" they are losing ground. They are losing this war.

Lots of people are not happy about it, just stating a fact.

We will find out next week’s meeting Trump and Putin. The Ukrainian outcome!
There is a reason why I just show you 6 pictures instead of typing a lot of words. Because what I will say is what I had said times and times again, and I have been saying this for the last 3 years, that's the reason why I don't want to post here anymore, because it will be like this in the foreseeable future.

Fact is, Ukraine is not going to withdraw its ambition of joining NATO unless there is a significant change in the frontline, which mean Russia would have to be over half of Ukraine plus for that to happen. Russia, on the other hand, will not stop until Ukraine either forces a election and ousted Zelenskyy or Ukraine is under Russian control; otherwise, this is not going to be a win for them, again, taken 20% of Ukraine while the other 80 goes into NATO is not a win for Russia, not after over a million casualty.

Ukraine is losing land, yes, but at a rate acceptable for them to hold on because even if things remain unchanged (which actually we see Russian progress starting to diminish in Ukraine cumulatively), it will take years, if not a decade, for Russia to take the whole Donbas. This means they have time to wait for at least 2026, for a more favorable US government (again, Trump is looking at a wipeout in 2026, in either the Senate or the House, or both; he can't hold both with less than 40% favorable views).

On the other hand, that's if we assume Russia can hold on to what they have now, if Ukraine is fighting a partisan warfare INSIDE Russia, you can bet your bottom dollars they are fighting one inside the occupation zone, which means Russians need to continue exerting control in the region that they had taken from Ukraine. People failed to see one thing: it's a lot easier to take land than to keep it. Again, it took us 37 days to take the entire Afghanistan, but we held it for 20 years. For Russia, it's almost 3.5 years now and they are still trying to take down a country, we are still in active warfare in Ukraine 3.5 years later. That is not a good outlook for any occupation if Ukraine decided to fight for it, and again, if they are doing those BTS stuff INSIDE Russia, there are no reason to believe they are just going to let Russia control the occupied territories.

So the simple fact is, Russia cannot take the entire Ukraine, and Ukraine cannot push the Russians out, and for any peace talk to hold, one side HAD to have some advantage, neither side have them, that's why I said, it depends on who have more time on their side, in this case, Ukraine have land to consider, Russia had money to consider, waging a war is not cheap, can they keep on financing this war for another 3 years? Not with the current oil price, they may be able to do it when oil price is around 80 or 90 a barrel, not when it was under $60 now, and it's going to stay that way until at least 2028 until Trump goes, so who bleeds quicker? Ukrainian losing land quicker in the next few years? Or Russian is bleeding more money in the next few years?

And I am not going to post this again, because this is what I had said it for 3 years, I was saying the same thing last year in April before Russian is making a push into Provosk, the same thing when Ukraine counter attacked into Kursk in August, and then the same thing when Trump take over and withdraw support and Ukraine loses Kursk this Feburary, til today, I am saying the same thing when Provosk still holding, I am not going to repeat this every 6 months.
 
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