Scientists Compared Chinese DNA to Every Ancient Civilization — Only One Matched

[Hamartia Antidote]

As China becomes more and more successful, white people will claim deeper links to it. In the end white people will declare themselves China's real ancestors, hence explaining its success. Europeans have the same attitude to America.

More like the Chinese in future history books will end up claiming they invented the airplane and every other breakthrough and then staunchly claim the "backwards West" said their civilization was descended from the Mesopotamians and Egyptians.

 

[ety]

Are you serious? You are quoting people from the 1800's as if what they said is still relevant. They were still debating whether evolution was real.

You didn't watch the video to readily dismiss such claims, right.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

You didn't watch the video, right.

Yes, I watched the video and found much of it illogical.
Nobody is claiming civilization is 100% descended from a few key areas.
History books just mention them as examples of early history.

The Olmecs of Central America were certainly not influenced by the Mesopotamians.

 

[东风夜放花千树]

The origin of the Chinese people does not have a definitive answer. After long-term discussion and exploration, the scientific community has not reached a consensus.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

The dominant genes of current Chinese people come from the Yellow River people with fusions and integrations with the genes of other groups including many minorities such as Tibetans in China spread in distant areas. Even the Cantonese, live farthest from the Yellow River, share 70% to 75% genes with those people in the Yellow River area.

The haplogroup O2 is the most dominant Y-DNA among the Han Chinese men.

Although the oldest O2 came from South China, but it was thriving in the Yellow River valley, and being a major progenitor of China earliest dynasties.

The haplogroup O1 was the progenitor of the Yangtze River civilization, but it did merge with its O2 brother to form the modern southeast Chinese coastal subgroups from Shanghai/Zhejiang/Fujian.

 

[ety]

The haplogroup O2 is the most dominant Y-DNA among the Han Chinese men.

Although the oldest O2 came from South China, but it was thriving in the Yellow River valley, and being a major progenitor of China earliest dynasties.

The haplogroup O1 was the progenitor of the Yangtze River civilization, but it did merge with its O2 brother to form the modern southeast Chinese coastal subgroups from Shanghai/Zhejiang/Fujian.

While the broader O2-M122 lineage initially entered China from the south, its specific centers of origin and expansion within China are closely tied to two major river basins during the Neolithic period:

• The Yellow River Basin (Millet Farmers): This is considered the primary "expansion origin" for the major O2 subclades that define the Han Chinese population today.
  • Subclades like O-M117 and O-M134 are strongly associated with ancient millet-farming cultures, such as the Yangshao culture (approx. 5000–3000 BC) in the middle and upper Yellow River.
  • Archeological sites in the He-Huang region (the junction of the Yellow and Huangshui rivers) have provided ancient DNA samples belonging to O2, suggesting this area was a critical early hub.
• The Yangtze River Valley (Rice Farmers): Some specific O2 sublineages also originated or expanded here alongside Haplogroup O1.
  • Subclades like O2a2a (O-M7) are particularly linked to the middle Yangtze River, specifically the Daxi culture.
  • These southern O2 lineages are often found at higher frequencies today among Hmong-Mien and Tai-Kadai speaking groups

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

While the broader O2-M122 lineage initially entered China from the south, its specific centers of origin and expansion within China are closely tied to two major river basins during the Neolithic period:

• The Yellow River Basin (Millet Farmers):This is considered the primary "expansion origin" for the major O2 subclades that define the Han Chinese population today.
  • Subclades like O-M117 and O-M134 are strongly associated with ancient millet-farming cultures, such as the Yangshao culture (approx. 5000–3000 BC) in the middle and upper Yellow River.
  • Archeological sites in the He-Huang region (the junction of the Yellow and Huangshui rivers) have provided ancient DNA samples belonging to O2, suggesting this area was a critical early hub.
• The Yangtze River Valley (Rice Farmers):Some specific O2 sublineages also originated or expanded here alongside Haplogroup O1.
  • Subclades like O2a2a (O-M7) are particularly linked to the middle Yangtze River, specifically the Daxi culture.
  • These southern O2 lineages are often found at higher frequencies today among Hmong-Mien and Tai-Kadai speaking groups

The O2 is a flexible group of people.

In southern China, they were farming for rice, and in northern China, they were farming for wheat.

In the Southeast Chinese coastal areas, the southern O2 group merged with with the O1 to from those coastal subgroups.

BTW, the Chinese are overall much more homogenous than Europeans, even more homogenous than the specific European ethnicities like English/French/German/Italian/Russian.

 

[MH.Yang]

Does that mean our great, great grandpa was the same monkey

All living beings in this world are descendants of Luca. There is no need to worry too much about whether it is the same monkey.

 

[MH.Yang]

So.....Indian claims of being 5000 years old are now being outdone by China?
With 4 times older claim ?
Noice.

Modern Indians are not the descendants of ancient Indians. Ancient India, ancient Babylon, and ancient Egypt have all perished.

 

[ety]

The origin of the Chinese people does not have a definitive answer. After long-term discussion and exploration, the scientific community has not reached a consensus.

There were humans living in China hundreds of thousands and even up to million years ago as found in human bones and fossils.

 

[MH.Yang]

More like the Chinese in future history books will end up claiming they invented the airplane and every other breakthrough and then staunchly claim the "backwards West" said their civilization was descended from the Mesopotamians and Egyptians.

We are not that shameless. We are a frank and honorable nation, not thieves. We have destroyed thousands of powerful enemies in our long history, such as the Xiongnu, the Khitans, the Dingling, the Xianbei, and so on. But our historical records have left their traces and preserved their glorious deeds. We have enough and excellent civilization and cultural heritage, and there is no need to steal the glory of other ethnic groups.

 

[mythbuster]

We are not that shameless. We are a frank and honorable nation, not thieves. We have destroyed thousands of powerful enemies in our long history, such as the Xiongnu, the Khitans, the Dingling, the Xianbei, and so on. But our historical records have left their traces and preserved their glorious deeds. We have enough and excellent civilization and cultural heritage, and there is no need to steal the glory of other ethnic groups.

What do you think which one is the most accomplished ethnic group in the history ?

 

[ety]

Modern Indians are not the descendants of ancient Indians. Ancient India, ancient Babylon, and ancient Egypt have all perished.

Ancient Indus Valley Civilization was mainly in Pakistan. So don't know how ancient India really is as it claims now.

 

[mythbuster]

Ancient Indus Valley Civilization was mainly in Pakistan. So don't know how ancient India really is as it claims now.

People of indus valley migrated to Ganges valley for climatic reasons.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

We are not that shameless. We are a frank and honorable nation,

Where's those pics of the Apollo sites by the Chang’e moon mappers? Those lunar satellites from ~15 years ago. You know pics to clarify any doubts about history to Chinese citizens so it won't conveniently be rewritten later.

Can you point us all to that link?

Even the Indian lunar program has released Apollo site pics to its citizens...

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