Syrian Civil War and The future of Syria after liberation

My friend, I have heard this story of the US and West leaving the Arab world and West Asia for almost 2 decades now. This has never occurred. Likely it will never occur even if their most beloved ally Israel did not exist in the first place. You know why? Due to simple geography. We share the biggest border (Mediterranean Sea) with Europe next door. There has been close relations/rivalries/contacts since recorded history began. Will only increase given the future demographics. Not to mention the strategic importance of the area, the natural riches etc.

I don't believe that it will ever occur. If it does it will mean that the US/West dominance has come to an end and their successor (s) would want to replace them and their role in the region. At least for the foreseeable future.

As for US-China relations, unlike the US, I don't think (history shows this as does the Chinese psyche) that China wants to replace the US in terms of political and military influence/interference across the world. Mostly China cares about economics and safeguarding its own country and spheres of influence.

Outside of Taiwan I don't see any reason for the US and China to be enemies. You are also each other's main trade partners.

A China-USA conflict would impact the entire world and likely start WW3. It is bad news for everyone involved.

And unlike Russia, China is much, much more a direct equal than Russia is, nukes excluded.
The globalist cabal is not ruled by logic. They are a greedy, insatiable psychopathic class that wants to control every country and controlling a country the size of China with its resources and production capabilities would be the ultimate end goal for world domination.

Also the US is trying hard to extricate itself from the ME but Israel keeps pulling it back. Doesn’t change the fact that China has been the main focus for a decade now.
 
Excuse me, i didn't know Turkey was the ally of Assad regime....when did that happen, i have missed it.
So you have to be someone's ally in order not to destabilize the whole region?
 

Rule by decree​

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Lacking a constitution or an elected legislature, the rebels ruled Idlib by decree, setting up a hybrid civil-Islamic court structure that included defense lawyers, a prosecutor and an appeals process.

Jolani was pragmatic in adapting to the requirements of the society he ruled over, Drevon said. Responding to the public’s displeasure, he slowly phased out the strict application of Islamic law, turned a blind eye to gender mixing and smoking and allowed protests against him. A Sharia law-based morality unit was disbanded but women were encouraged to cover their hair.

 al-Hamada meeting Senator Marco Rubio during his time in Washington DC advocating for the rights of Syrians under the Assad regime

“It was a successful project in practice because there was also some buy in from the population. It was stable, the economy was working better (than the rest of Syria) and even the type of authoritarianism was nothing compared to Assad’s family,” Drevon said.

But there were exceptions. Last year, the SSG issued a “morality decree” instructing children to adhere to an Islamic dress code and limiting music in educational facilities. Jolani intervened to freeze the decree, fearing that an international uproar could affect aid donations, Drevon said.

Another issue was the arrest and alleged torture of dissidents that caused significant protests against Jolani in Idlib last year. Jolani told CNN last week that abuses in prisons “were not done under our orders or directions” and that HTS had already penalized the perpetrators.

Drevon said that Syria’s transition to democracy is going to be a lengthy and complicated process after six decades of dictatorship.

“It was a very new form of governance (in Idlib),” he said. “You can’t expect an armed group in war controlling a region that’s very tiny to create a social democratic system… They had to be realistic on what’s possible at war. Syria hasn’t had democracy in five, six decades. You will not become democratic in one week.”
 
The globalist cabal is not ruled by logic. They are a greedy, insatiable psychopathic class that wants to control every country and controlling a country the size of China with its resources and production capabilities would be the ultimate end goal for world domination.

Also the US is trying hard to extricate itself from the ME but Israel keeps pulling it back. Doesn’t change the fact that China has been the main focus for a decade now.

Elites are similar everywhere that is why elites in say North Korea and Cameroon have more in common than they have with ordinary people.

Al-Assad and his henchmen had more in common with the elites of their supposed enemy countries than they had with their own people.

If I wanted to play the devil's advocate I could say that the elites of China are very much intertwined with the elites of the West. We don't know if what we hear of rivalries in the media is the reality or if we are being played by those in power. At times this appears to be the case.

Sure, they claim that China is the biggest rival but I have never heard about the main rival being the largest trade partner at the same time and the same country in question (China) never previously having had bad ties with the same USA.

In fact the US indirectly helped China get freedom from Japanese occupation. You were allies during the WW2 before ideology (communism vs capitalism - or that is the story we are supposed to believe) emerged. Later the same US opened up to China and vice versa when China fell out with USSR.

Later the same West was the main reason (outside of China and Chinese itself) for the astronomic rise of China.

Funny little world we live in.

Anyway I don't believe the US/West will leave the region. Certainly Europe cannot leave (ever) and since Europe is an extension of the US and vice versa, I find that whole idea difficult to believe in. For the foreseeable future at least. All this is without even taking the regional US outpost (Israel) into consideration which at times seems to be the real power at play here.
 
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Elites are similar everywhere that is why elites in say North Korea and Cameroon have more in common than they have with ordinary people from say Uzbekistan.

Al-Assad and his henchmen had more in common with the elites of their supposed enemy countries than they had with their own people.

If I wanted to play the devil's advocate I could say that the elites of China are very much intertwined with the elites of the West. We don't know if what we hear of rivalries in the media is the reality or if we are being played by those in power. At times this appears to be the case.

Sure, they claim that China is the biggest rival but I have never heard about the main rival being the largest trade partner at the same time and the same country in question (China) never previously having had bad ties with the same USA.

In fact the US indirectly helped China get freedom from Japanese occupation. You were allies during the WW2 before ideology (communism vs capitalism - or that is the story we are supposed to believe) emerged. Later the same US opened up to China and vice versa when China fell out with USSR.

Later the same West was the main reason (outside of China and Chinese itself) for the astronomic rise of China.

Funny little world we live in.
In Russian Orthodox prophecies,China will eventually attack Russia with the encouragement of the West.
 
Elites are similar everywhere that is why elites in say North Korea and Cameroon have more in common than they have with ordinary people.

Al-Assad and his henchmen had more in common with the elites of their supposed enemy countries than they had with their own people.

If I wanted to play the devil's advocate I could say that the elites of China are very much intertwined with the elites of the West. We don't know if what we hear of rivalries in the media is the reality or if we are being played by those in power. At times this appears to be the case.

Sure, they claim that China is the biggest rival but I have never heard about the main rival being the largest trade partner at the same time and the same country in question (China) never previously having had bad ties with the same USA.

In fact the US indirectly helped China get freedom from Japanese occupation. You were allies during the WW2 before ideology (communism vs capitalism - or that is the story we are supposed to believe) emerged. Later the same US opened up to China and vice versa when China fell out with USSR.

Later the same West was the main reason (outside of China and Chinese itself) for the astronomic rise of China.

Funny little world we live in.

Anyway I don't believe the US/West will leave the region. Certainly Europe cannot leave (ever) and since Europe is an extension of the US and vice versa, I find that whole idea difficult to believe in. For the foreseeable future at least. All this is without even taking the regional US outpost (Israel) into consideration which at times seems to be the real power at play here.
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In Russian Orthodox prophecies,China will eventually attack Russia with the encouragement of the West.
I would be cautious with all of those various prophecies. In regards to Islamic prophecies a lot of them are clearly made up as they are contradictory. I assume the same is the case with Christian ones. The Jewish ones that I have seen are the most insane though. I suggest visiting Twitter and searching (crazy claims of Rabbis) and you will have 100's of insane videos.

My understanding and personal conviction (for what it is worth - which is nothing, lol) is that it is a question of time before Russia returns to the European/Western fold that they were essentially always a part of prior to 1917. Just 1 (Orthodox) European outpost. I don't think that any Russians deny that they belong to Europe and are Europeans and Christians (culturally). 90% of all Russians live in the European part of Russia to. Due to Russian conquests of non-Russians (90% of their territory) and their size, they consider themselves distinct and see themselves as a civilization on itself (they also falsely claim to be the successor of Byzantine) even though they are essentially an European country whose territory extends across of Asia (majority).

Arabs have always seen Russia (historically) as a European and Christian country. Arab geographers and historians (who were actually one of the first people to describe the Kievan Rus culture) always wrote this as well. They wrote that Russians (Slavs) were close to Varangians (Scandinavians) and post were at time enslaved (sold in slavery which was common in their culture and common across the world during that time) and used as the personal bodyguards of Caliphs in Baghdad at times.

Some Arabs also tried to convert Russians, there is talk among historians that the early Kievan Rus rulers were more inclined to chose Islam but when they discovered that alcohol is banned, they chose Christianity.
 
In Russian Orthodox prophecies,China will eventually attack Russia with the encouragement of the West.

I love prophecies. Can you direct me to some place where I can read Orthodox prophecies?
 
Elites are similar everywhere that is why elites in say North Korea and Cameroon have more in common than they have with ordinary people.

Al-Assad and his henchmen had more in common with the elites of their supposed enemy countries than they had with their own people.

If I wanted to play the devil's advocate I could say that the elites of China are very much intertwined with the elites of the West. We don't know if what we hear of rivalries in the media is the reality or if we are being played by those in power. At times this appears to be the case.

Sure, they claim that China is the biggest rival but I have never heard about the main rival being the largest trade partner at the same time and the same country in question (China) never previously having had bad ties with the same USA.

In fact the US indirectly helped China get freedom from Japanese occupation. You were allies during the WW2 before ideology (communism vs capitalism - or that is the story we are supposed to believe) emerged. Later the same US opened up to China and vice versa when China fell out with USSR.

Later the same West was the main reason (outside of China and Chinese itself) for the astronomic rise of China.

Funny little world we live in.

Anyway I don't believe the US/West will leave the region. Certainly Europe cannot leave (ever) and since Europe is an extension of the US and vice versa, I find that whole idea difficult to believe in. For the foreseeable future at least. All this is without even taking the regional US outpost (Israel) into consideration which at times seems to be the real power at play here.
Elites are similar in some ways but I disagree that their wants are identical. The elite class that rules the western world want to control every government. I don’t think the elites of China or Indonesia or Cuba or even Russia are looking to do that. It’s the western globalist zio Anglo elite obsessed with controlling every govt and every society.
 
Elites are similar in some ways but I disagree that their wants are identical. The elite class that rules the western world want to control every government. I don’t think the elites of China or Indonesia or Cuba or even Russia are looking to do that. It’s the western globalist zio Anglo elite obsessed with controlling every govt and every society.
I have come to realize that essentially the human psyche is similar/the same everywhere. The only difference is the different environments and thus opportunities and certain cultural impacts. Overall we are all remarkably similar in terms of how we act instinctively. If you remove what makes us distinct (culture, religion, appearance, language, indiivdual personal behavior) we are essentially all the same in terms of natural instincts.

Once you reach a position of power you naturally want to expand, improve and dominate if possible. That is all we do as humans in most walks of life.

Well, the Russians (USSR) tried to do that already but lost the race to the West.

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Nixon and his generation of US politicians were probably the last real politicians (as in informed diplomats) that the US/West had. He was way ahead of his time and made some chillingly correct political predictions.

Compare him with later US presidents and it is laughable. I am talking about foreign policy knowledge here specifically.
 
I have come to realize that essentially the human psyche is similar/the same everywhere. The only difference is the different environments and thus opportunities and certain cultural impacts. Overall we are all remarkably similar in terms of how we act instinctively. If you remove what makes us distinct (culture, religion, appearance, language, indiivdual personal behavior) we are essentially all the same in terms of natural instincts.

Once you reach a position of power you naturally want to expand, improve and dominate if possible. That is all we do as humans in most walks of life.

Well, the Russians (USSR) tried to do that already but lost the race to the West.
There is some theoretical truth to that but in all practical terms, it’s the western globalist cabal today that is the only one trying to control everybody. That’s why they are the primary source of turmoil and wars today.
 
There is some theoretical truth to that but in all practical terms, it’s the western globalist cabal today that is the only one trying to control everybody. That’s why they are the primary source of turmoil and wars today.
I agree. However we don't know how others would behave in their position. Not yet at least.

Anyway I believe that we should return to discussing purely about Syria although I enjoyed our exchanges as usual even though we don't always agree with everything.

Anyway another confirmation that elites are the same everywhere.

This was supposedly an anti-Western leader, lol.

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I know that CNN is propaganda but those palaces and cars belonged to the regime and its friends, not ordinary impoverished Syrians.

We also know from his wife's private journals that all she cared about where lavish gifts from foreign leaders. Spending 100.000's of dollars on expensive Western clothing etc. She bragged about gifts received from MbZ and the Omani Sultan, lol.

They are all the same everywhere, indeed.
 
I have come to realize that essentially the human psyche is similar/the same everywhere. The only difference is the different environments and thus opportunities and certain cultural impacts. Overall we are all remarkably similar in terms of how we act instinctively. If you remove what makes us distinct (culture, religion, appearance, language, indiivdual personal behavior) we are essentially all the same in terms of natural instincts.

Once you reach a position of power you naturally want to expand, improve and dominate if possible. That is all we do as humans in most walks of life.

Well, the Russians (USSR) tried to do that already but lost the race to the West.


Nixon and his generation of US politicians were probably the last real politicians (as in informed diplomats) that the US/West had. He was way ahead of his time and made some chillingly correct political predictions.

Compare him with later US presidents and it is laughable. I am talking about foreign policy knowledge here specifically.
What's funny is the Sino-Soviet border clashes ended up diverting millions of Soviet army divisions away from Eastern Europe.
The Soviets had more men stationed in the East than they did in the West.china was the useful player for the US in dealing with the Soviets.
When the US normalized relations with China in the 1970s and allowed it into the WTO in 2001, it was based on the assumption that China would always be economically subordinated to the US-led imperial core.
Washington's ideal was for China to remain trapped in the periphery, providing a huge low-paid labor pool for Western multinational corporations to make low value-added consumer goods, while the core economies dominated high value-added industries, especially high tech.
As China began to "catch up", and oversaw world-historic economic development due to massive state-led investment and government industrial policy, the US became increasingly aggressive.
The US government's explicitly stated goal is to collaborate with the rest of the core to "slow down China’s rate of innovation", and thus keep it trapped in the periphery.
 
Former China Leader Deng Xiaoping (1990):

"How are we to view the changes in the international situation? Has the old world pattern come to an end and a new one taken shape? ... The situation in which the United States and the Soviet Union dominated all international affairs is changing.

Nevertheless, in future when the world becomes three-polar, four-polar or five-polar, the Soviet Union, no matter how weakened it may be and even if some of its republics withdraw from it, will still be one pole. In the so-called multi-polar world, China too will be a pole. We should not belittle our own importance: one way or another, China will be counted as a pole.

Our foreign policies remain the same: first, opposing hegemonism and power politics and safeguarding world peace; and second, working to establish a new international political order and a new international economic order. These two policies should be emphasized repeatedly."
 

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