Syrian Civil War and The future of Syria after liberation

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Dust has settled in Syria just let it go my brother..

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SDF Commander: We are open to removing foreign fighters and handing over security file, including ISIS, to Syrian government
 
@Persian Gulf

Dust has settled in Syria just let it go my brother..

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SDF Commander: We are open to removing foreign fighters and handing over security file, including ISIS, to Syrian government

I don't think terrorists can rule Syria for long. Former head of Al Qaeda now president of Syria, what could possibly go wrong?

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CV of Abu Jolani, so-called leader of the Syrian regime:

Intern, Al Qaeda: 2009-2010
Associate, Al Qaeda: 2010-2012
Sr Associate, Al Qaeda: 2012-2015
Insurgent, Various: 2015-2024
President, Syria: 2025-
 
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CV of Abu Jolani, so-called leader of the Syrian regime:

Intern, Al Qaeda: 2009-2010
Associate, Al Qaeda: 2010-2012
Sr Associate, Al Qaeda: 2012-2015
Insurgent, Various: 2015-2024
President, Syria: 2025-


lmao.. sanctions lifted, SDF joined the government.. You will be saying AQ until your grave nothing will change.

you need to let go bro.. carry with life
 
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CV of Abu Jolani, so-called leader of the Syrian regime:

Intern, Al Qaeda: 2009-2010
Associate, Al Qaeda: 2010-2012
Sr Associate, Al Qaeda: 2012-2015
Insurgent, Various: 2015-2024
President, Syria: 2025-

If these claims are true, you should logically be happy.

Al Qaeda has the same enemies and pursues the same goals as Hezbollah and the Iranian leaders.

Al-Qaeda even went so far as to declare the Saudi Arabian rulers Kafir and Murtadd.

Here you can read how Iran helped to build Al Qaeda.

 
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i think that was Daesh not AQ.

Both of them. AQ started an insurgency in KSA during the early 2000's that failed but nevertheless made some noise. This was way before ISIS became a thing.



AQ itself was funded by OBL who we all know eventually turned anti-establishment after the Afghan-Soviet war. I think the overall view was that every Muslim regime/government was a Western henchman, not Islamic enough (if at all) etc. Outside of Sudan in the 1990's and later Taliban that is.

KSA was the favourite target of ISIS/AQ in terms of Muslim regimes. Far more than the likes of Iran for instance. One just need to recall all those audio messages from their leaderships during the years.

But anyway both ISIS and AQ were/are infiltrated by foreign intelligence services no doubt and were used as such for various different gains. Outside of truly independent cells within.

For instance it is no secret that ISIS was largely formed by former military Ba'athi Iraqi Sunni Arabs discontent with losing control of Iraq mixed with AQI elements. Many of the leadership were once secular nationalists. I always saw ISIS as an local fringe Iraqi Sunni Arab supremacist movement turned armed Jihadis with their main goal being the toppling of the Iraqi Shia Arab-dominated government and the re-establishment of Iraqi Sunni Arab dominance, this time around under a Jihadi/Islamist banner.

It is all about creating slogans to achieve political gains.

I have no doubt that Al-Jolani is an Syrian Sunni Arab nationalist who for the very same reasons used Islamism to help topple the Alawite Al-Assad regime and establishment.

Being both at the same time (Islamists + nationalist) can easily be connected.

Hence the informal racial hierarchies within the likes of ISIS.
 
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Both of them. AQ started an insurgency in KSA during the early 2000's that failed but nevertheless made some noise. This was way before ISIS became a thing.



AQ itself was funded by OBL who we all know eventually turned anti-establishment after the Afghan-Soviet war. I think the overall view was that every Muslim regime/government was a Western henchman, not Islamic enough (if at all) etc. Outside of Sudan in the 1990's and later Taliban that is.

KSA was the favourite target of ISIS/AQ in terms of Muslim regimes. Far more than the likes of Iran for instance. One just need to recall all those audio messages from their leaderships during the years.

But anyway both ISIS and AQ were/are infiltrated by foreign intelligence services no doubt and were used as such for various different gains. Outside of truly independent cells within.

For instance it is no secret that ISIS was largely formed by former military Ba'athi Iraqi Sunni Arabs discontent with losing control of Iraq mixed with AQI elements. Many of the leadership were once secular nationalists. I always saw ISIS as an local fringe Iraqi Sunni Arab supremacist movement turned armed Jihadis with their main goal being the toppling of the Iraqi Shia Arab-dominated government and the re-establishment of Iraqi Sunni Arab dominance, this time around under a Jihadi/Islamist banner.

It is all about creating slogans to achieve political gains.

I have no doubt that Al-Jolani is an Syrian Sunni Arab nationalist who for the very same reasons used Islamism to help topple the Alawite Al-Assad regime and establishment.

Being both at the same time (Islamists + nationalist) can easily be connected.

Hence the informal racial hierarchies within the likes of ISIS.

To my knowledge AQ didn't really takfir. They declared rulers corrupt, they did a whole lot of Haram and Khwariji behavior, but the takfir started with Daesh and its predecessor in the Iraq branch.

AQ was more political rather than theological compared to Daesh, for example, they worked with Maturidis in Afghanistan(Taliban), they worked with Ashari Shafis from Egypt even though at their core they were primarily Saudis.

They are still Khariji but Daesh took it to another level where they essentially Takfired anyone who didn't subscribe to their doctrine and didn't pledge Bayah.

Daesh was going around Killing Naqsbandis in Mosul even though they were fighting the coalition, killing people for doing Dhikr and stuff.

Daesh sees itself more as the legitimate successor to the 1st wave Najdi Dawah with MIAW.
 
Now Turkey has no choice to work with Iran and Russia to control Israeli occupation. But something going on behind the scenes.
 
I don't think terrorists can rule Syria for long. Former head of Al Qaeda now president of Syria, what could possibly go wrong?

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He will rule for a few years until the elections, then their will be unity government and slowly he will be gone. This is why he's trying his very best to be the biggest sellout so he is approved for a long time. His best bet is to join Muslim Brotherhood, they will certainly be involved in Syria for a long time.
 
lmao.. sanctions lifted, SDF joined the government.. You will be saying AQ until your grave nothing will change.

you need to let go bro.. carry with life
If someone is Jewish,but goes pro-Palestinian,I'll bet you won't stop saying "Don't believe him,he's a Jew".
 
He will rule for a few years until the elections, then their will be unity government and slowly he will be gone. This is why he's trying his very best to be the biggest sellout so he is approved for a long time. His best bet is to join Muslim Brotherhood, they will certainly be involved in Syria for a long time.
Ah,but will there be elections after 4-5 years? ;)
 
To my knowledge AQ didn't really takfir. They declared rulers corrupt, they did a whole lot of Haram and Khwariji behavior, but the takfir started with Daesh and its predecessor in the Iraq branch.

AQ was more political rather than theological compared to Daesh, for example, they worked with Maturidis in Afghanistan(Taliban), they worked with Ashari Shafis from Egypt even though at their core they were primarily Saudis.

They are still Khariji but Daesh took it to another level where they essentially Takfired anyone who didn't subscribe to their doctrine and didn't pledge Bayah.

Daesh was going around Killing Naqsbandis in Mosul even though they were fighting the coalition, killing people for doing Dhikr and stuff.

Daesh sees itself more as the legitimate successor to the 1st wave Najdi Dawah with MIAW.
Seriously,if you're being an AQ apologist,you shouldn't be a Mod on this forum. Both organizations were monstrous. Monstrous.
 
Seriously,if you're being an AQ apologist,you shouldn't be a Mod on this forum. Both organizations were monstrous. Monstrous.

I already mentioned they are Khawarij/terrorists.

I'm making a distinction in their modus opprendi. Try to understand nuance foinikas. I'm pointing out that AQ worked with the Taliban whereas Daesh declared them Kafir based on creedal matters, and the fact that they kill anyone who does not subscribe to their outlook and give them an oath of allegiance.
 

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