Syrian Civil War and The future of Syria after liberation

[retaxis]

Lets see, Syria clearly wants to stop israel from bombings, and long term as capacity builds up, it will no longer be acceptable and Syria will retaliate.

Jolani spent 10 years building capacity to fight Assad and accepted being bombed without any significant counter offensive.

Sometimes you have to weather the storm and buy time while you build capacity.

Do a cost and benefit analysis and based on probability of success on when to fight and when to have patience.

Why is Israel even attacking Syria anyway? Aren't they happy that Assad is gone and they can make peace now?

 

[GoatsMilk]

Why is Israel even attacking Syria anyway? Aren't they happy that Assad is gone and they can make peace now?

They want to annex Syria in the long run, Assad was easily navigable by the zionists. A syria built up by Turkiye is a serious challenge to their ambitions.

Worth keeping in mind that the region for much of the last 1000 years was Turkish ruled in one form or another. It was the Turks who removed the entire crusader coalition from the region about 800 years ago. It wasn't until the fall of Ottoman power that they were able to return and set up a new crusader state with a zionist face.

Isreal is really a white man creation that the white man intends to use to directly horde over the Muslim middle east. Take the whites man support away from isreal and the whole project crumbles away.

 

[hyperman]

Aren't they happy that Assad is gone

No they are not happy.

Recently they called the New Govt in Syria, "Hamas on Steroids" and "Hamas with 2 sea ports" and "Hamas with a Turkish Border and support".

Ex-IDF chief: Israel prefers that Assad stay in power

Dan Halutz also skeptical about the prospects of a peace agreement with the Palestinians in the near future

www.timesofisrael.com

‘Israel prefers Bashar Assad to Islamist rebels’

Israeli officials reportedly tell the London Times: Better the devil we know than the demons we can only imagine

www.timesofisrael.com

 

[retaxis]

No they are not happy.

Recently they called the New Govt in Syria, "Hamas on Steroids" and "Hamas with 2 sea ports" and "Hamas with a Turkish Border and support".

Ex-IDF chief: Israel prefers that Assad stay in power

Dan Halutz also skeptical about the prospects of a peace agreement with the Palestinians in the near future

www.timesofisrael.com

‘Israel prefers Bashar Assad to Islamist rebels’

Israeli officials reportedly tell the London Times: Better the devil we know than the demons we can only imagine

www.timesofisrael.com

Yeah its weird i thought america were very pleased when Assad fell. America takes its orders from israel so naturally ud think israel was happy too.

 

[hyperman]

Yeah its weird i thought america were very pleased when Assad fell. America takes its orders from israel so naturally ud think israel was happy too.

They wanted a broken feeble Syrian state with no Capacity but with Assad in power(better the devil you know than not know)

Biden came to Turkey and said they did not want regime change.

Israel did not want Assad removed from power, US officials tell Turkey

www.middleeasteye.net

So when that Rebel offensive happened, they initially didn't know how to react, so they are winging it as they go along.

Thats why that Trump statement about "Turkey did an unfriendly action in Syria" came out.

They didn't view it positively internally, b/c of the unknown factor.

Trump calls rebel victory in Syria 'unfriendly takeover' by Turkey

President-elect Donald Trump characterized the rebel ouster of Syrian strongman Bashar al-Assad as an "unfriendly takeover" by US ally Turkey as he addressed the conflict at a news conference on Monday.…

www.france24.com

 

[GoatsMilk]

They wanted a broken feeble Syrian state with no Capacity but with Assad in power(better the devil you know than not know)

Biden came to Turkey and said they did not want regime change.

Israel did not want Assad removed from power, US officials tell Turkey

www.middleeasteye.net

So when that Rebel offensive happened, they initially didn't know how to react, so they are winging it as they go along.

Thats why that Trump statement about "Turkey did an unfriendly action in Syria" came out.

They didn't view it positively internally, b/c of the unknown factor.

Trump calls rebel victory in Syria 'unfriendly takeover' by Turkey

President-elect Donald Trump characterized the rebel ouster of Syrian strongman Bashar al-Assad as an "unfriendly takeover" by US ally Turkey as he addressed the conflict at a news conference on Monday.…

www.france24.com

Forget the Turkish backed side winning the syrian civil, these americans didn't even want Turkiye in Syria.

 

[hyperman]

Forget the Turkish backed side winning the syrian civil, these americans didn't even want Turkiye in Syria.

Yup, and then Turkey created new realities on the ground and in the end they just accepted it.

Turkey was sanctioned for intervening in Syria and threatened with military action if it attacked the PKK, now the PKk in Syria has largely been dissolved.

 

[The SC]

While Israel is invading and bombing left and right no one is going to invest their money there. Plenty of better developing nations to invest in no shortage of that.

Saudi-French statement:

Welcoming the establishment of a joint Saudi-Syrian-French business council

@HashKSA

 

[Shags101]

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/syria-slams-katzs-illegal-visit-to-countrys-south/

So we aren’t going to report embarrassing situations where Israel is now freely moving around Syrian lands honestly edrogan needs to be invited to tour southern Syria

 

[GoatsMilk]

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/syria-slams-katzs-illegal-visit-to-countrys-south/

So we aren’t going to report embarrassing situations where Israel is now freely moving around Syrian lands honestly edrogan needs to be invited to tour southern Syria

Patience charlie, there is a time and place. That time and place isn't now, its probably about 10 years from now.

You don't win wars because you get angry.

If Turks were to overstep their capacity too soon you would be giving the zionists exactly what they want. Just like on Oct 7th the palestinians gave the zionists exactly what they wanted which allowed them to not only destroy gaza but bomb multiple nations and ultimately opening the doors so Iran itself is directly bombed.

Patience, this war is coming but it has to be fought at the right time and on the right terms.

In idlib was the last major remaining rebel strong hold. It too was being bombed by Russia and at times the USA. But when the time was right Turkiye activated the operation and the entire nation was swept in a matter of days.

Turkiye endured many years with the usa, russia, iran and assad against her in syria. With the western world eu and others constantly threatening, sanctioning and embargoing Turkiye each time she moved. But in the end the Turkiye picked the perfect moment to strike.

If you know what to look for you can see the exact same incremental process taking place in syria today. This is why the isrealis are lashing out. But what we must not do is play their game. We are in no rush, Turkiye is not going anywhere. That nation of 90 million people with a rapidly expanding defence industry is not moving anywhere.

 

[Shags101]

Patience charlie, there is a time and place. That time and place isn't now, its probably about 10 years from now.

You don't win wars because you get angry.

If Turks were to overstepped their capacity too soon you would be giving the zionists exactly what they want. Just like on Oct 7th the palestinians gave the zionists exactly what they wanted which allowed them to not only destroy gaza but bomb multiple nations and ultimately opening the doors so Iran itself is directly bombed.

Patience, this war is coming but it has to be fought at the right time and on the right terms.

No one is talking about war or even fighting Israel edrogan arriving in Syria under Syrias current transitional government(hopefully leads to legitimate elections but will see I really do hope)asks a foreign leader to come visit Syria stay for a couple days tour the country would put mud in the eye of bibi just before his own elections would be great for Israel’s Opposition and Arab and Muslim states would get rid of this troll once and for all inshallah will go to jail for a year or 2 because of the bribes and by than his bloc will be in ruins

 

[GoatsMilk]

No one is talking about war or even fighting Israel edrogan arriving in Syria under Syrias current transitional government(hopefully leads to legitimate elections but will see I really do hope)asks a foreign leader to come visit Syria stay for a couple days tour the country would put mud in the eye of bibi just before his own elections would be great for Israel’s Opposition and Arab and Muslim states would get rid of this troll once and for all inshallah will go to jail for a year or 2 because of the bribes and by than his bloc will be in ruins

I don't personally think the politician matters, its the same shit in america and isreal irrespective of whose in charge. The greater middle east agenda won't stop because someone else gets elected, the entire game is rigged. And people who think about conquest and destruction, won't let elections get in their way. They will simply rig the game so either side works in their favour.

Isrealis are desperate to provoke a situation, we are in no rush. Let them play this little games. What matters is that incrementally Turkiye rebuilds syria, rebuilds her army and eventually gets her own fighter jets in the air. Then the time will be right.

 

[Shags101]

I don't personally think the politician matters, its the same shit in america and isreal irrespective of whose in charge. The greater middle east agenda won't stop because someone else gets elected, the entire game is rigged. And people who think about conquest and destruction, won't let elections get in their way. They will simply rig the game so either side works in their favour.

Isrealis are desperate to provoke a situation, we are in no rush. Let them play this little games. What matters is that incrementally Turkiye rebuilds syria, rebuilds her army and eventually gets her own fighter jets in the air. Then the time will be right.

Again I’m not one to think everything requites a hammer sometimes a smile and a wave right across Israel’s border or the golan heights a humiliating act against Israel and you don’t even need to send a fighter jet to bomb an empty airfield