Syrian Civil War and The future of Syria after liberation

[The SC]

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[Aziqbal]

Too difficult for some to comprehend details like this.

It should be all about Chinese weapons, 10s of billions of Yuan in cash and maybe a sending a couple of Chinese carriers with Type 52D/55 escorts to ME to "flex its muscles".

That is not in line with Chinese foreign policy

 

[Aziqbal]

officially; The Syrian Air Force was completely destroyed last night.

- Israeli Army Radio:
• We destroyed the capabilities of the Syrian army with the largest air operation we carried out in our history.
• For the first time in more than 5 decades, we completely bombed the air bases of the Syrian Air Force.
• About 300 raids were carried out on various military targets, most of them belonging to the Syrian Air Force, and among the targets were air bases, where entire squadrons of “MiG” and “Sukhoi” aircraft were destroyed - tonight Israeli raids continued throughout Syria.
• It is likely that within a few days the Syrian air force will be virtually eliminated, and the new forces there will no longer have any capabilities to use air platforms, which were already weak.
• We destroyed dozens of large and advanced air defense batteries spread across Syria, practically disabling, in a historic step in every sense of the word, the Syrian air defense system.

@CressFiles

If they did this in 2011 maybe 500,000 Syrians would be alive ?

Why now ?

 

[Tamerlane]

When has the global south risked anything for China?

China is empowering the global south by providing valuable alternatives when it comes to loans, infrastructure, technology, etc.

No one expects China to help Muslims. You keep explaining your point of view as if you feel guilty for not lifting a finger to stop the genocide in Gaza.

The Islamic world will get its own house in order and bring down its enemies. Nations have been trying to get rid of Islam since its inception and have failed. The Islamic world will still be here long after Israel and the US have been forgotten in history, inshallah.

 

[tower9]

No one expects China to help Muslims. You keep explaining your point of view as if you feel guilty for not lifting a finger to stop the genocide in Gaza.

The Islamic world will get its own house in order and bring down its enemies. Nations have been trying to get rid of Islam since its inception and have failed. The Islamic world will still be here long after Israel and the US have been forgotten in history, inshallah.

I was responding to some members who were blaming China for not getting involved.

 

[Tsubasa]

His superior Turkish Air Force won't dare attack the Israeli Air Force though. Only good for bombing Kurds and violating Greek air space.

There is no country in Western Asia that can directly compete with the Israeli Air Force in terms of technology, training level, and operational readiness. Israel remains unmatched in this region when it comes to air superiority.

 

[r3alist]

When has the global south risked anything for China?

China is empowering the global south by providing valuable alternatives when it comes to loans, infrastructure, technology, etc.

Ching is trading, So what?That's all means in reality.

Russia is an oil and gas station with nuclear weapons and so it does not care about world trade.

China has to as otherwise its growth can be throttled before it is strong enough to take on the combined west and its bunch of lackeys like Japan.

Also there is deep seated racism(lol) against East Asians and religious bigotry in the Arab world. They would rather partner with "superior" Whites than "inferior" Chinese all else being equal.

As @tower9 has said, no one can help Sunni Arabs as they do not know who their real enemies are.

I personally believe in maybe 10 years from now China will start to have more influence in ME(passively) as countries like Iran do not need the west as much as China will provide them whatever the west has as of now. People need to be patient and China is not obligated to get involved in ME to help anyone.

the last year has taught me that do not be lazy in presuming anything at all about what nation ✗ might do.

Do I need to say more about how Gaza unfolded?

China wont risk anything at all for the ME-they also have their prejudices on Arabs.
Everything about China seems to be another,........ another set up for being let down under a one way expectation (delusion)that their is a deep alliance once china is super strong.

If Ching is happy enough to never commit and watch nations fall then that8 something to be cognisant of, dont tell me thats a positive.
BTW, the USA is not exactly getting weak.

 

[Foinikas]

There is no country in Western Asia that can directly compete with the Israeli Air Force in terms of technology, training level, and operational readiness. Israel remains unmatched in this region when it comes to air superiority.

MMM-E disagrees with you.

 

[Tsubasa]

The US employs a global military empire of 800 bases. Much of that spending is for logistics. Not to mention the mismanagement in the Pentagon, they have not been able to account for hundreds of billions spent in the last few years.

China's budget primarily goes into R&D and manufacturing so it is producing much more cost effective results than what the budget might suggest.

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But if you're talking about China maintaining a global empire, I agree that China is nowhere near matching the US on that and I don't think they are even interested. They see how the US has gotten overstretched and the severe strain it is taking.

Admittedly, budget mismanagement in the Pentagon is an issue. However, it does not diminish the results achieved. Your claim that China is not interested in a global presence may be rhetorically clever but does not align with the facts. China’s "Belt and Road Initiative" and the establishment of military bases clearly show that it is indeed striving for a global presence, it is just not yet capable of achieving this on the same scale as the United States.

 

[tower9]

Ching is trading, So what?That's all means in reality.

the last year has taught me that do not be lazy in presuming anything at all about what nation ✗ might do.

Do I need to say more about how Gaza unfolded?

China wont risk anything at all for the ME-they also have their prejudices on Arabs.
Everything about China seems to be another,........ another set up for being let down under a one way expectation (delusion)that their is a deep alliance once china is super strong.

If Ching is happy enough to never commit and watch nations fall then that8 something to be cognisant of, dont tell me thats a positive.
BTW, the USA is not exactly getting weak.

I don't agree. There are major undercurrents moving right now that will only become evident as time passes in the next few years. The world has already shifted dramatically away from Western domination in the past ten years. Ten years from now, it will also look vastly different. We are heading towards a multi polar world.

 

[Tamerlane]

I was responding to some members who were blaming China for not getting involved.

I think that China's neutrality is a good thing. While China is not helping, it is not attacking Muslims either, like India. This is a bad time in history for the Islamic world. Historically they were much more united and militarily and economically on par with other civilizations. But is the last 200 years or so they have fallen behind.

China has had peace in the last 30-40 years because the imperialists, like US/NATO, were making war on the Islamic world. This has severely held Muslim countries back from development while other civilizations have been progressing, like China and now India.

I've said this in the past and will say it again. The Islamic world will know no peace as long as the US-Israel are strong. The 2 billion Muslims will only know peace and development when these entities cease to exist. How that will happen I don't know. World War Three probably.

Once it's all over, then the Islamic world will want to trade with China and have good relations.

 

[Foinikas]

Also Foiny why are we back with you pretending you are anti zionist? lol

Why on earth do some people here think I'm a "zionist" or whatever? I'm Greek. Hellenic. Christian Orthodox.

If Zionism is the right of Jews to have a homeland in Israel,then ok.

But if Zionism is a Greater Israel and dark centers that want to control the whole world behind the scenes,then no.

Do you understand now?

 

[UKBengali]

China wont risk anything at all for the ME-they also have their prejudices on Arabs.

All that Chinese poster said was Sunni Arabs are backward people and do not know who their enemies are.


You cannot help people like this as they do not want your help.

 

[Tsubasa]

MMM-E disagrees with you.

Facts cannot be disputed, only interpreted differently depending on perspective. There are always different viewpoints and contexts that I respect, but the point about the Israeli Air Force is hard to deny. In the region, there is currently no serious competition at this level.

 

[tower9]

I think that China's neutrality is a good thing. While China is not helping, it is not attacking Muslims either, like India. This is a bad time in history for the Islamic world. Historically they were much more united and militarily and economically on par with other civilizations. But is the last 200 years or so they have fallen behind.

China has had peace in the last 30-40 years because the imperialists, like US/NATO, were making war on the Islamic world. This has severely held Muslim countries back from development while other civilizations have been progressing, like China and now India.

I've said this in the past and will say it again. The Islamic world will know no peace as long as the US-Israel are strong. The 2 billion Muslims will only know peace and development when these entities cease to exist. How that will happen I don't know. World War Three probably.

Once it's all over, then the Islamic world will want to trade with China and have good relations.

I don't want China to be military intervening in the Muslim world and I am sure the vast majority of Chinese do not want that either. Regardless of whether China does it for selfish or altruistic reasons, in the end, you will be resented and hated in the region.

The current nightmare that the Arab world is facing (I say Arab world, because Turkey and Iran are not living that nightmare) can only be thrown off when the Sunni Arabs unite in throwing off their shackles. As long as the majority of Sunni Arab govts aid the CIA and act as a covert ally to Israel, they will continue to be enslaved and no amount of outside help will change that.