Syrian Civil War and The future of Syria after liberation

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

There are many parties involved in Syria with conflicting interests and it’s hard to figure out who’s fighting with whom. I’ve tried to simplify things by identifying three main groups.

1) Assad, Syrian Army, Russia, Iran
2) Israel, USA, Kurds (SDF, PKK, YKG)
3) People of Syria, Turkey, HTS, SNA

For many years groups 1 and 2 were fighting with each other with little or no regard for the people of Syria. For both groups Syrians were little more than cattle. Assad and Russia were killing and torturing the people of Syria on a large scale.

While Russia was helping keep Assad in power by killing people of Syria they were also partners with Israel. They allowed constant Israeli bombing of Syria.

The US and Israel were promoting the Kurdish rebels’ occupation of large chunks of Syria and theft of Syrian oil revenue.

Enter group 3 with Turkish support. They’re supported by the people of Syria and Palestinians as well. They’re trying to restore the country to the people.

Group 3 is being attacked by both group 1 and 2. Assad, Russia, and Israel are cooperating to facilitate Israeli attacks on Syria. At some point in time Turkey will need to start protecting Syria from Israeli/Russian aggression.

Russia is almost as Zionist as America. If America is 100% Zionist then Russia is 75% Zionist. To cooperate with Russia to kill Muslims is as bad as cooperating with the US to kill Muslims.

Let me repaint this

For many years, different factions were created in Syria for purpose of
Economic melt down. They were all supplied weapons from same party

The same model was used to destroy Ottoman Empire (i.e internal mercenary groups )

1. Kurds took over the oil field which generated $$$ for Syria economy, really a faction which is anti Turkey , this group wants to split up Turkey
2. Rebels (Syria) destroyed own cities in war with own army
3. ISIS was a name used by west to routinely kill any faction who did not follow their storyline
4. Iran has been connected to local Syrian army old ties, for them they saw value in holding up territorial integrity of old Syria

All these groups were supplied weapons from same party directly or indirectly thru a proxy

In the end Turkey aligned itself with one faction to protect it's own border,

Was Assad a tyrant ? His people feel so , however the wars which Syria suffered which ravaged their nation was crafted by carefully fueling money and weapons from outside players

 

[Tsubasa]

Turkey is cooperates with Zion in open daylight.

Turkey focuses on combating Kurdish groups and creating safe zones for refugees, while Israel directs its efforts towards containing Iranian influence and preventing the arming of enemies. You should not attribute Iran's incompetence to the Turks.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

It's all about perspective every one has a vision of Syria , from their own country's view point and that image is valid

PKK is danger to Turkey (yes I think it is true based on evidence)

• PKK will claim their struggle was for good
• Rebel (two star flag) will claim they did it for benefit of Syrian people
• ISIS , well they claim they are trying to create ideal society

The Label of Good guy or Bad guy is changed at will by western press and it is tied to how intelligence society of West (Specifically US and even UK) , you can view the foreign policy of these nation about mercenary groups by looking at their national Press/News paper how they report killing of Civilians in Syria (if they even report it)

• When (matter of time) the policies will shift again all the groups will be labeled as Terrorist

However now there is a much real danger rising which endangers whole of Syria and Neighboring nations

• Are Syrians safe with 1000 Tone bombs falling on their territory?

Israel feeds off Mercenary groups fighting over piece of bone with meat on it

Turkey felt it had to do something for Syria , Iran also has done quite a bit , however now it remains to be seen how regional nations will respond

Eygpt of course have a same deal like Golan Height with one of the buffer zones with Israel I am sure they are feeling quite safe right now as well , looking at how quickly Israel can steal buffer zones

 

[Foinikas]

Evangelical churches often provided social support and community engagement, particularly to marginalized populations, further attracting people to their movement.

Gangs and Congregations in Latin America: An Interview with Stephen Offutt

In recent decades much of Latin America has seen a dramatic proliferation of two seemingly opposite groups: violent gangs and evangelical churches. In his new book Blood Entanglements (Oxford University Press), Stephen Offutt explores why evangelical

religionanddiplomacy.org

Ascetic tendencies of evangelicals (no alcohol, tobacco, or going to bars or dance clubs, and certainly no drugs or violence) create important behavioral changes in youths who convert. Gang leaders both respect and monitor such changes. If a youth continues to live “la vida loca” after he is allowed to leave the gang, gang leaders may assume that the youth was faking conversion just to leave the gang. Such youths run the risk of being killed by their former gang.

In Orthodox countries we find Protestants and especially American Protestant Churches as very weird. Not just heretic,but also very very weird.

 

[R2D2]

Iran should make a deal with HTS and offer them double of what Turkey is giving them. If they don't agree then Iran should finance and arm Daesh as it is currently being bombed by USA and Israel and give them the target of attacking Israeli occupied areas and Golan Heights. Coupled with that Hezbollah can join the struggle to attack Israel inside Syria. A joint Sunni-Shia front is needed inside Syria to confront Israel. For the time being, they should make a peace treaty with HTS. The Syrian people's emotions and support will switch to the group fighting Israel.

 

[Foinikas]

Iran should make a deal with HTS and offer them double of what Turkey is giving them. If they don't agree then Iran should finance and arm Daesh as it is currently being bombed by USA and Israel and give them the target of attacking Israeli occupied areas and Golan Heights. Coupled with that Hezbollah can join the struggle to attack Israel inside Syria. A joint Sunni-Shia front is needed inside Syria to confront Israel. For the time being, they should make a peace treaty with HTS.

Wtf?

 

[xbat]

Wtf?

Good morning my greek friend, you are just at the beginning of knowing of iran that we accostumed

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Syria's protection lies in Erdogan's hand , with his Rebel group in power
I am sure he must have had plan to safe guard Syrian Land integrity

Egypt also have responsibility for Golan heights as it was negotiated
earlier with Eygpt/Syria with Israel

• Take over of Golan Heights breaks Israel-Egypt long standing truce on basis of border integrity of Egypt-Syria

Russia's role in Syria is not finished

The active role by Israel in Syria requires of Rethink of Turkey-Iran approach to Syria

• Iran need to reposition itself with People of Syria , rather then old Bashar Army

A creation of Press and news agencies
"ISIS or Daesh" is a terminology loosely used to attack Rebel groups who are not "Aligned" with objective of growth of Israel
It's basically a license to kill

• What if ISIS /Daesh did not exist ? It was merely some rebel group who no longer want to play the game? Being proxy controlled

 

[ghazi52]

'I didn't intend to leave Syria,' purported statement by Assad says​

16 minutes ago
BBC

A torn portrait of Assad in the streets of Damascus

Syria's former President Bashar al-Assad appears to say he never intended to flee to Russia - in what is purported to be his first statement since the fall of Damascus eight days ago.

Assad's reported statement was put on the Telegram channel belonging to the Syrian presidency on Monday, although it is not clear who currently controls it - or whether he wrote it.

In it he says that, as the Syrian capital fell to rebels, he went to the Russian military base in Latakia province "to oversee combat operations" only to see that Syrian troops had abandoned positions.

Hmeimim base had also come under "intensified attack by drone strikes" and the Russians had decided to airlift him to Moscow, he says.

He adds that "at no point during these events did I consider stepping down or seeking refuge, nor was such a proposal made by any individual or party".

"When the state falls into the hands of terrorism and the ability to make a meaningful contribution is lost, any position becomes void of purpose," the statement adds.

Aleppo: Dancing crowds gather to celebrate end of Assad regime

Assad and his family fled to Russia as city after city fell to rebels led by the Islamist militant group Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS) within a period of 11 days.

The rebels groups are continuing to form a transitional government in Syria

HTS, Syria's most powerful rebel group, was set up under a different name, Jabhat al-Nusra, in 2011 and pledged allegiance to al-Qaeda the following year.

Al-Nusra broke ties with al-Qaeda in 2016 and later took the name HTS when it merged with other factions. However, the UN, US, UK and a number of other countries continue to designate it as a terrorist group.

Its leader Ahmed al-Sharaa, who previously used the nom de guerre Abu Mohammed al-Jolani, has pledged tolerance for different religious groups and communities. But his group's jihadist past has left some doubting whether it will live up to such promises.

 

[Foinikas]

Good morning my greek friend, you are just at the beginning of knowing of iran that we accostumed

Ama bu adam Irani?

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

In Orthodox countries we find Protestants and especially American Protestant Churches as very weird. Not just heretic,but also very very weird.

Mr Greek , you are correct I also find the folks quite weirdos
I find Catholics\Orthodox generally very kind compared to the weirdos

It is more to do with "interpreting" own religion self made rules by mix-matching , what a person desires internally . At some point they shifted away from followers of God to, followers of self desire. Then justifying actions , with own mind. They want to see only few select colors of spectrum

The rise of Atheist , ideology in America is due to the reason of drifting away from concept of family

Rise of Atheist in America and also simultaneous control of Israeli in White house , is a trend which goes hand in hand

 

[mulj]

Iran should make a deal with HTS and offer them double of what Turkey is giving them. If they don't agree then Iran should finance and arm Daesh as it is currently being bombed by USA and Israel and give them the target of attacking Israeli occupied areas and Golan Heights. Coupled with that Hezbollah can join the struggle to attack Israel inside Syria. A joint Sunni-Shia front is needed inside Syria to confront Israel. For the time being, they should make a peace treaty with HTS. The Syrian people's emotions and support will switch to the group fighting Israel.

Dude Iran is in no position to offer anything best they can hope are cordial and transactional relation with syrian government, iran role in syria was atrocious and time will be needed for them to regain any trust among new syrians.

 

[hyperman]

Evangelical churches often provided social support and community engagement, particularly to marginalized populations, further attracting people to their movement.

A bunch of these tribes in Africa and in the Amazon as well. They give them money and food. I believe the term is Rice Christian.

Rice Christian - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

I look forward to Turkish narrative now , specially Erdogan what he thinks should happen in Syria

Helping Syrian refugee return to Syria was his big motive he has succeeded now it is time for next phase of action

Similarly for Egypt ideal case is integrity of Syria
The 1 million syrians can return to Syria with Syria's border integrity kept safe

 

[Titanium100]

secrets are coming out

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