Syrian Civil War and The future of Syria after liberation

Ahmad Al Sharra explains why he refused to fight Hezbollah after the Rebels entered Damascus despite lobbying from some international actors, saying the Syrians, despite holding a grudge with Hezbollah for 14 years, didn't want to do something that would destabalize Lebanon and help foreign actors.

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I'm not. I'm an American. One who believes that Israel and Pakistan can be friends. Hence, the crossed flag.
So your even weirder than I thought and more out of touch in reality than I already though yes while nothing wrong with living in peace and for all people to live in peace you just read what you wanted and replied to what you wanted it doesn’t seem you have any issues with Israel killing whoever they may be as long as it fits your warped ideals that’s actually pretty sad ttyna(talk to you never again)
 
So your even weirder than I thought and more out of touch in reality than I already though yes
What is reality? If a hundred people say that what happens when you let go of an apple is that it flies upward, does that make it 'true'?
 
I don’t think they will give him up unless bashar interferes in Syria I really don’t think he’s doing anything but keeping his head underground for fear of dying but if Russia obliges and gives him over people might be more inclined to hand over Russian officials if there ever came a day Russia fell agin.
Bashar doesn’t have really anywhere to go and not many actual friends in the world I don’t see GCC countries opening their arms for him I don’t see bashar running to North Korea or Iran all he has is Russia not a bad place to live as long as you have the money to pay off people
 
I'm not. I'm an American. One who believes that Israel and Pakistan can be friends. Hence, the crossed flag.

If You are not Pakistani, why do you have a Pakistani flag? it makes people think you are a Pakistani or a Pakistani American.
 
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I don’t think they will give him up unless bashar interferes in Syria I really don’t think he’s doing anything but keeping his head underground for fear of dying but if Russia obliges and gives him over people might be more inclined to hand over Russian officials if there ever came a day Russia fell agin.
Bashar doesn’t have really anywhere to go and not many actual friends in the world I don’t see GCC countries opening their arms for him I don’t see bashar running to North Korea or Iran all he has is Russia not a bad place to live as long as you have the money to pay off people
Much of Al-Assad's immediate family lived in UAE (his sister and their family, I believe his mother also lived in the UAE) for a very long time during the civil war. I could see them hosting him.


Some of his relatives already fled to UAE after he lost power. Apparently.



He is no Idi Amin though, I remember seeing him in Jeddah as a young child.:ROFLMAO:

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Would be nice to see Bashar hanging from a rope in Damascus. I don't see that happening unless al-Sharaa is going way overboard to accommodate the Russians.

I don't think that the Tartus Naval Base and Khmeimim Air Base are used by Russia any longer without the authorization of the government. Quite unclear how much room the Russians have been given or if they are still allowed to use those bases.

I am seeing conflicting reports.

In any case it is quite an embarrassment for Syria and the current government to allow those bases to remain considering what the Russians have been doing against the Syrian people for almost 10 years.

Russia cannot do anything for Syria anyway or offer it anything that Arabs/Turkey/West cannot. Unless he wants to play on two horses at once and hope to use Russia as a leverage. That and obviously getting Bashar and others to stand trial in Syria which I think is unlikely to occur anyway regardless of Syrian concessions.
 
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Much of Al-Assad's immediate family lived in UAE (his sister and their family, I believe his mother also lived in the UAE) for a very long time during the civil war. I could see them hosting him.


Some of his relatives already fled to UAE after he lost power. Apparently.



He is no Idi Amin though, I remember seeing him in Jeddah as a young child.:ROFLMAO:

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Would be nice to see Bashar hanging from a rope in Damascus. I don't see that happening unless al-Sharaa is going way overboard to accommodate the Russians.

I don't think that the Tartus Naval Base and Khmeimim Air Base are used by Russia any longer without the authorization of the government. Quite unclear how much room the Russians have been given or if they are still allowed to use those bases.

I am seeing conflicting reports.

In any case it is quite an embarrassment for Syria and the current government to allow those bases to remain considering what the Russians have been doing against the Syrian people for almost 10 years.

Russia cannot do anything for Syria anyway or offer it anything that Arabs/Turkey/West cannot. Unless he wants to play on two horses at once and hope to use Russia as a leverage. That and obviously getting Bashar and others to stand trial in Syria which I think is unlikely to occur anyway regardless of Syrian concessions.


They need the Russians for the removal of UN sanctions.

Regardless, Putin will never give up Assad, no matter what. It reflects badly on Russia to give up someone they gave sanctuary to, and dumping a former client will reflect badly on Russian relations going forward with other clients and if they ever need Russia to protect them.
 
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They need the Russians for the removal of UN sanctions.

Regardless, Putin will never give up Assad, no matter what. It reflects badly on Russia to give up someone they gave sanctuary to, and dumping a former client will reflect badly on Russian relations going forward with other clients and if they ever need Russia to protect them.
Do they really need Russia to remove the UN sanctions? I was not aware of that. I guess that they need the Chinese too if that is the case? Quite a mess. I though that most of the relevant sanctions were US based and if they were removed everyone else would follow suit.

Also not sure what the point is for Russia and China to keep sanctions alive. That would only put Syria on a plate for the US and the West and Russia and China would have zero influence. Not that China had much influence to begin with but still.

I don't disagree but I think that it is a question of what they could be given in exchange for Bashar. If they get some preferable inroads into Syria (economically, politically and militarily) as well (most importantly) keep their highly crucial naval base and air base under Russian control, they could probably extradite him.

Anyway it shows bad faith from the side of Russia. You are basically hosting a wanted war criminal who lost a war that you were actively involved in. Russia has everything to lose here. They risk becoming completely irrelevant in the region outside of Algeria and possibly Iran.
 
Do they really need Russia to remove the UN sanctions? I was not aware of that. I guess that they need the Chinese too if that is the case? Quite a mess. I though that most of the relevant sanctions were US based and if they were removed everyone else would follow suit.

Also not sure what the point is for Russia and China to keep sanctions alive. That would only put Syria on a plate for the US and the West and Russia and China would have zero influence. Not that China had much influence to begin with but still.

I don't disagree but I think that it is a question of what they could be given in exchange for Bashar. If they get some preferable inroads into Syria (economically, politically and militarily) as well (most importantly) keep their highly crucial naval base and air base under Russian control, they could probably extradite him.

Anyway it shows bad faith from the side of Russia. You are basically hosting a wanted war criminal who lost a war that you were actively involved in. Russia has everything to lose here. They risk becoming completely irrelevant in the region outside of Algeria and possibly Iran.

Lets see, right now, nothing is being asked, but they did send oil to Syria, not that its needed, Saudis can do that.

China will ask for things Uygur related, so that might be more tricky. Syria will not deport any of them back to China, but I think they can be demilitarized or atleast some sort of assurance can be given that they won't be a threat to China or use Syria for staging activities and stuff like that.
 
Lets see, right now, nothing is being asked, but they did send oil to Syria, not that its needed, Saudis can do that.

China will ask for things Uygur related, so that might be more tricky. Syria will not deport any of them back to China, but I think they can be demilitarized or atleast some sort of assurance can be given that they won't be a threat to China or use Syria for staging activities and stuff like that.
Sure, already happening. Same with other forms of energy (electricity, renewables) and what not. Construction too. Here Turkey is a global player as well, even more so. They are pretty well covered should they lose Russia as a partner completely, not that I believe that this will happen. The Syrian government probably wants to have Russia as an option in case relations with the US/West turn sour or they fail to control Israeli land grabs in Syria.

Uyghurs, who fought among Syrians ranks, are not going anywhere, they have been/or will be naturalized and are welcome and respected by large. I don't think that they will cause any trouble for China (China is probably not a fan though) as they cannot hurt China much from so far away in Syria. Also those people have quite possibly broken every ties with China as a country too outside of a family connection and a connection to land.

Honestly, if I am Al-Sharaa, I am given out citizenship to all foreign volunteers who fought in my ranks. Only a fair thing to do. Sure, there are some more extreme elements within some of them (minority) but you have to live with that and say to your partners that those people don't pose a threat to your countries.
 
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Much of Al-Assad's immediate family lived in UAE (his sister and their family, I believe his mother also lived in the UAE) for a very long time during the civil war. I could see them hosting him.


Some of his relatives already fled to UAE after he lost power. Apparently.



He is no Idi Amin though, I remember seeing him in Jeddah as a young child.:ROFLMAO:

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Would be nice to see Bashar hanging from a rope in Damascus. I don't see that happening unless al-Sharaa is going way overboard to accommodate the Russians.

I don't think that the Tartus Naval Base and Khmeimim Air Base are used by Russia any longer without the authorization of the government. Quite unclear how much room the Russians have been given or if they are still allowed to use those bases.

I am seeing conflicting reports.

In any case it is quite an embarrassment for Syria and the current government to allow those bases to remain considering what the Russians have been doing against the Syrian people for almost 10 years.

Russia cannot do anything for Syria anyway or offer it anything that Arabs/Turkey/West cannot. Unless he wants to play on two horses at once and hope to use Russia as a leverage. That and obviously getting Bashar and others to stand trial in Syria which I think is unlikely to occur anyway regardless of Syrian concessions.

I don’t think uae would family that weren’t involved in the conflict at least on the surface aren’t really thought after I’m sure like everyone else they profited from Syrias corruption but that would make most Arab and Muslim leaders family worldwide guilty of the same thing.
UAE nor Saudis are going to be courting Bashar to come live with them and if Putin did give him short notice that would mean Bashars cash stash is running low to pay off bribes to keep him safe in Russia Bashar is irrelevant no one is even mention him accept jolani and better off to keep him out of Syria he’s a laughing stock but bring him back to Syria to be hanged you make him a martyr really quick.
Let’s be honest and I’m just going to throw a blanket accusation to all groups during the Syrian civil war they have all been part of some kind of war crime none of them are innocent many on each side used brutal tactics on civilian and military targets so honestly if people want to start fresh they should all be honest of brutal tactics from all sides no one is innocent during Syria war but civilians
 
Lets see, right now, nothing is being asked, but they did send oil to Syria, not that its needed, Saudis can do that.

China will ask for things Uygur related, so that might be more tricky. Syria will not deport any of them back to China, but I think they can be demilitarized or atleast some sort of assurance can be given that they won't be a threat to China or use Syria for staging activities and stuff like that.
is it me or do Uyghurs need their own village not a fan of jihadists but honestly if they can live in peace they should be settled in Syria and maybe have their families brought to live there.
Ps when I say their own village more of reward than segregation as long as they decide to live in peace and build up Syria why not reward a group that was a large part of jolani victory
 

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