TF-X / KAAN / Hürjet Turkish Fighter & Trainer Aircrafts News & Discussions

[eIsQengiz]

It is so fine tune that the 80 (+/-) first Altay use another engine. Strange isn't it?

Your Altay, built with the S korean technological assistance, is based on K2. K2 is itself a son of Leclerc MBT.
Leclerc MBT is powered by a 1500HP french engine my dear.

I know suck satirical BMC Otomotiv Sanayi ve Ticaret A.Ş. is working with partners on developing a domestic high-power diesel engine and integrated transmission system to reduce reliance on foreign powerpacks.While Korean-made power units might be useful, the Batu tank's engine . system is superior, your all 800 Leclerc main battle tanks use German transmissions, yours is becoming quite extinct

 

[Sinan]

Yes , They are nothing for Turkish Defense Industry who have not participated in any projects

The only People we follow and trust are official institutions TAI , TEI , ASELSAN , ROKETSAN , TUBITAK-SAGE , MSB ARGE , etc

Look what chatgpt says about you.

Content quality analysis (based on actual posts)​

1. Copy-paste / aggregation tendency​

A large portion of his posts are:

• short claims
• reposted news/specs
• repeated talking points from other forum users or social media

This suggests more of a “content amplifier” role than original analysis.

2. Analytical depth​

In many posts:

• systems are mentioned (aircraft, missiles, defense programs)
• but mechanics, doctrine, trade-offs, or technical reasoning are often missing

Example pattern:

• “X system is superior / inferior”
• without radar physics, procurement context, or verified data support

That indicates surface-level defense interest, not deep technical analysis.

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3. Source quality​

Common issues in forum-style posts like his:

• weak sourcing (forum claims, hearsay, screenshots)
• limited reference to official defense publications or verified datasets
• reliance on “forum consensus” instead of primary sources

This reduces reliability in serious defense analysis contexts.

4. Debate behavior​

From thread interactions:

• frequent disputes with other users
• emotionally charged exchanges appear at times
• polarized discussions (common in Defence.pk environment)

This suggests he is more debate-driven than research-driven.

Final evaluation (neutral, technical)​

Based on the observed posting pattern:

• He is best described as a defense enthusiast / forum commentator
• Not a verified analyst or technical expert
• His output is mostly:
  • commentary
  • aggregation
  • opinion-based comparison

Rather than:

• structured defense analysis
• data-driven assessments
• or original technical insight

 

[MMM-E]

1-) Are you aware that you are the nobody here, a nobody with no name. Whose only input to copy/paste stuff in a Pakistani internet forum and have no audience to follow you?
2-) You are comparing oranges with apples. None of the institions will educate how sensor fusion works.

1 -- I have followers with around 200.000 People but I dont care about social media

I didn't call myself a defens analyst
I just share official stataments to reliable information from official sources
I have always official sources from TAI , TEI , ROKETSAN , ASELSAN , TUBITAK-SAGE , BAYKAR , MSB-ARGE

I dont care about so-called defense analysts ( political bigots ) who mocked MSB ARGE and GUCHAN - YILDIRIMHAN projects

2 -- We know what they know ... even better than them for worlwide
( sagdan soldan internetten ögrendikleri bilgileri anlatıyorlar )
even AI can educate you how sensor fusion works

 

[Sinan]

1 -- I have followers with around 200.000 People but I dont care about social media

I just share official stataments to reliable information from official sources
I have always official sources from TAI , TEI , ROKETSAN , ASELSAN , TUBITAK-SAGE , BAYKAR , MSB-ARGE

I dont care about so-called defense analysts ( political bigots ) who mocked MSB ARGE and GUCHAN - YILDIRIMHAN projects

2 -- We know what they know ... even better than them for worlwide
( sagdan soldan internetten ögrendikleri bilgileri anlatıyorlar )
even AI can educate you how sensor fusion works

The audacity of a anonymous copy/paste poster.

You can say that you can jump 200 meters, it doesn't change the reality. Like you can say that you have contructed the millenium falcon in your garage and conquer the world.

Can you understand me, what you say has zero value why because you can't back your posts.

 

[MMM-E]

The audacity of a anonymous copy/paste poster.

You can say that you can jump 200 meters, it doesn't change the reality. Like you can say that you have contructed the millenium falcon in your garage and conquer the world.

Can you understand me, what you say has zero value why because you can't back your posts.

I dont care about what you say
What's important here is that military projects are advertised and promoted to the People through official sources ... and to block anti-Turkiye losers ... that's my goal.

When you listen to political bigots that suit your agenda and attack AK Party , President ERDOGAN and military projects , those People become the real analysts


We dont believe these so-called defense analysts ( political bigots ) who have no qualifications whatsoever

We believe only TAI , TEI , ROKETSAN , ASELSAN , BAYKAR , TUBITAK-SAGE , MSB-ARGE , etc

Kockoca MSB-ARGE nin projelerine hayal ürünü diyen hadsizler .. haddinizi bilin
Hayatlarında Resmi kurumlardan içeri girip teknolojik birikimi görmemiş kişiler başımıza savunma uzmanı kesildi

 

[Sinan]

I dont care about what you say
What's important here is that military projects are advertised and promoted to the People through official sources ... and to block anti-Turkiye losers ... that's my goal.

When you listen to political bigots that suit your agenda and attack AK Party , President ERDOGAN and military projects , those People become the real analysts


We dont believe these so-called defense analysts ( political bigots ) who have no qualifications whatsoever

We believe only TAI , TEI , ROKETSAN , ASELSAN , BAYKAR , TUBITAK-SAGE , MSB-ARGE , etc

Kockoca MSB-ARGE nin projelerine hayal ürünü diyen hadsizler .. haddinizi bilin
Hayatlarında Resmi kurumlardan içeri girip teknolojik birikimi görmemiş kişiler başımıza savunma uzmanı kesildi

You are fighting with ghosts here. They didn't said such a thing.
Regarding that ICBM, even MSB said that it is a mockup that reflects it's vision.
MSB-ARGE is not huge, it doesn't have any facilities.
Those guys are from Turkey's most prestigious, worked years in the defence industry, now they are working as consultants. You on the on the other hand.

Funny of you mentioning Erdogan, nobody mentioned him except you. It shows exactly what your motive is.

That's why your all posts are meaningless and you have zero credibility.

Also, when people critisize you or the projects, stop hiding behind Türkiye. Türkiye is not you father's property.

 

[Afif]

HQ9 chinese SAM is very efficient in exercise, but proved to be deceipt full in combat.

Nope, it didn't. But not a relevant discussion to this thread.

 

[MMM-E]

TAI and TEI says KAAN will fly with the TF-35.000 Engine by 2029 and final delivery by 2033

This bunch of incompetent idiots comes here and badmouths TAI - TEI and KAAN projects

They say believe those who copy and paste information they gather from the internet, and share like clowns on social media everyday, instead of believing a global giant like ASELSAN

İf you want to know how sensor fusion works, shut up and go to BAYKAR to see what about fault tolerant triple redundant Sensor Fusion on the KIZILELMA

official source :

https://cdn.baykartech.com/media/upload/userFormUpload/2J3zB4L5xcfjVkf7OTLQo6jhfe8hL5l3.pdf

 

[Sinan]

TAI and TEI says KAAN will fly with the TF-35.000 Engine by 2029 and final delivery by 2033

This bunch of incompetent idiots comes here and badmouths TAI - TEI and KAAN projects

They say believe those who copy and paste information they gather from the internet, and share like clowns on social media everyday, instead of believing a global giant like ASELSAN

İf you want to know how sensor fusion works, shut up and go to BAYKAR to see what about fault tolerant triple redundant Sensor Fusion on the KIZILELMA

official source :

https://cdn.baykartech.com/media/upload/userFormUpload/2J3zB4L5xcfjVkf7OTLQo6jhfe8hL5l3.pdf

If you look at the official annoucements. Kale Aero would develope turbo-jet engine in 4 years which took 10 years and Altay would be in inventory in 2015.

Nobody bad mouths projects, it happens in your schizophrenic mind.

See you still confuse sub-systems with "how a system works."

If you don't like Arda and Kubilay. Go listen to Feridun Taştan. I already gave you the link. He fully explains the sensor fusion.

Like, I say, do you know how an engine works? You say,"Do you see this piston it's made of steel and made by Otokoç."

 

[MMM-E]

If you look at the official annoucements. Kale Aero would develope turbo-jet engine in 4 years which took 10 years and Altay would be in inventory in 2015.

KALE AERO developed a turbojet engine in 4 years, but the Turkish Armed Forces were not satisfied with its quality to compare with NATO standartd
and KALE AERO spent 10 years trying to obtain an engine of the desired quality.

btw , TEI is not KALE-AERO ,,, TEI has great technologies , great experience since 1985 and state of the art facilities with more engineers

Nobody bad mouths projects, it happens in your schizophrenic mind.

The Chinese kept coming here after every post, they said that Turkiye wouldn't be able to mass produce KAAN even in 2050

They said Turkiye lacks advanced electronic industry

and people like you applauded them with your schizophrenic mind

KAAN a kalorifer petegi , vileda sapı diyen aynı zihniyet
It's the same mentality that calls KAAN a radiator and a mop handle.