TF-X / KAAN / Hürjet Turkish Fighter & Trainer Aircrafts News & Discussions

[BonPlan]

KAAN is almost full of indigenous except Engine and Ejection Seat

And the engine will be a pain in the turkish a** for years, and years....

 

[MMM-E]

S400 can do all that SIPER and the next SIPER variant can.
Some S400 missiles has a far bigger range.

Stop thinking that all that Turkey make is world top class. It's not the case yet.

S400 can not work with NATO Systems including link-16 for network centric warfare

SIPER’s superior features Compared to the S-400

1 -- SIPER utilizes ASELSAN’s state-of-the-art AESA radar based on Gallium Nitride (GaN) technology instead of S-400's old PESA Radar

2 -- Network-Centric Warfare with Link-16 Integration
The S-400 is a closed-loop Russian system , on the other hand SIPER is built from the ground up to integrate into Link-16 and Turkiye's RADNET network

3 -- Dual-Pulse Advantage
SIPER-2 utilizes a dual-pulse solid rocket motor. The second pulse fires right before terminal interception, providing a massive burst of energy and maneuverability


The S400 has a firing range advantage.

 

[MMM-E]

And the engine will be a pain in the turkish a** for years, and years....

No problem
We are acquiring 10+80 F-110 engines, which will give us the time we need

better go and worry about your French Air Force which will fly with only RAFALE until 2045

 

[MMM-E]

Rafale bombed a turkish camp in Lybia.....
It's not words, but acts.

YES against 45 year old HAWK Air Defense System with range of 40 km
wow what a great success ... even our AKINCI UCAV can do it

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RAFALE would stand no chance against SIPER-2, which operates within Turkiye's advanced radar network

In fact, SIPER could successfully complete its mission without revealing its position to RAFALE by turning off its own ALP-300G AESA Radar and using the E-7T AEWC, and by the time the RAFALE pilot detects SIPER-2 when it activate its radar seeker at the last seconds, it would be too late .. and GAME OVER


KIZILELMA , ANKA-3 and KAAN stealth platforms have much lower RCS than old RAFALE in BVR combat .. that means RAFALE will have been shot down before it could detect KAAN on its radar.

 

[RealNapster]

I think Turkey clever enough to developp their own SAM with NATO interoperability in mind.

I think @eagleeye already responded on that. You dont have to completely rely on my response because it had a question mark ...

 

[Pokemonte13]

And the engine will be a pain in the turkish a** for years, and years....

true but you have to start somewhere atleast with the f110 we can still develop the fighter jet instead of waiting for it. Most likely the first Block 10 aircraft will become training and testing version once Kaan with domestic engines is in service in large numbers and block 20 will get an engine replacement.

 

[Ravenman]

So we got the licences for 80 F110 engines.

Thats very good news.

Greece will be crazy about this.

 

[Merzifonlu]

Hey @BonPlan ;

If you can rid yourself of that French arrogance bordering on utter stupidity, I have a mutually beneficial offer. Let's integrate the Safran M-88 T-Rex engine into the Kızılelma. And let's modify the Kızılelma so it can be launched by catapult.

The Safran M-88 T-Rex is currently the only engine in mass production that can bring the Kızılelma to its true potential. No other in mass-produced engine generates this much thrust in this compact size.

 

[BonPlan]

S400 can not work with NATO Systems including link-16 for network centric warfare

SIPER’s superior features Compared to the S-400

1 -- SIPER utilizes ASELSAN’s state-of-the-art AESA radar based on Gallium Nitride (GaN) technology instead of S-400's old PESA Radar

2 -- Network-Centric Warfare with Link-16 Integration
The S-400 is a closed-loop Russian system , on the other hand SIPER is built from the ground up to integrate into Link-16 and Turkiye's RADNET network

3 -- Dual-Pulse Advantage
SIPER-2 utilizes a dual-pulse solid rocket motor. The second pulse fires right before terminal interception, providing a massive burst of energy and maneuverability


The S400 has a firing range advantage.

Oh sorry,
I forgot that turkish products are all superiors to the rest of the world production.

 

[BonPlan]

No problem
We are acquiring 10+80 F-110 engines, which will give us the time we need

better go and worry about your French Air Force which will fly with only RAFALE until 2045

We will see if your Kaan will be ready before. It's another task to built on a serial basis than to hand made prototyps.
So far your Kaan is years ahead a IOC, not to speak of FOC.

 

[BonPlan]

Hey @BonPlan ;

If you can rid yourself of that French arrogance bordering on utter stupidity, I have a mutually beneficial offer. Let's integrate the Safran M-88 T-Rex engine into the Kızılelma. And let's modify the Kızılelma so it can be launched by catapult.

The Safran M-88 T-Rex is currently the only engine in mass production that can bring the Kızılelma to its true potential. No other in mass-produced engine generates this much thrust in this compact size.

French arrogance? It is peace of a cake compared to @MMM-E one !

The tie between France and Turkey are not strong enough to imagine that. You will find a solution with EJ200 or a US engine....

 

[BonPlan]

So we got the licences for 80 F110 engines.

Thats very good news.

Greece will be crazy about this.

Why? as said, KAAN is far away any initial capacity. Just an aero show. Same status than Rafale A in its time : a frame, 2 engines, and no weapon system.