The Armenian-Azerbaijani conflict

[Qaraca]

There never was an alliance between Russia & Iran, but Iran and other parties will continue to seek common interests through platforms such as BRICS. This is the rising block, whoever doesnt join or wont be allowed to join by their masters will be in decline.

In case that contracts or treaties imposed upon the region deny Iranian interests, they will simply be not durable and expire with the end of Trump and Netanyahu.

Bunch of clowns in front of cameras signing "trump corridor" and telling trump must win the nobel peace prize, comic show.

Lol, lmfao even.

Imposed? Both Armenia and Azerbaijan agree on this, that is why they signed the agreements. And it’s to the benefit of both countries, unlike your little rambling.

Show me what is bad for Armenia and Azerbaijan? A lasting peace?

 

[Homajon]

Iran’s Geography Would Be Suffocated by the Zangezur Corridor

Shoaib Bahman said, “Major projects are forming around Iran, with the Zangezur Corridor being part of them. For years, there has been talk of the Lajevard Corridor in eastern Iran, connecting Pakistan and Afghanistan to Turkmenistan, and possibly to Baku via the Caspian Sea. For linking Afghanistan and Pakistan to Turkey and Europe, Iran is the cheapest and fastest route, yet they are willing to bypass Iran through a combination of rail, sea, and road transport, just to exclude it."

Another project, the ‘IMEC’ Corridor, south of Iran, starts from India, goes to the southern Persian Gulf states, and extends to the occupied territories, the Mediterranean, and Europe—effectively bypassing the Persian Gulf as a unique geopolitical zone. Also, the ‘Development Road’ Corridor west of Iran, through the Persian Gulf and Iraq to Turkey, runs parallel to the North-South Corridor that Iran and Russia have pursued for years—again, excluding Iran, he added.

"Zangezur in the northwest serves the same purpose: removing Iran from transit routes. This isn’t just about transit—it’s about numerous geopolitical and security issues. The four corridors I mentioned, in the north, west, east, and south, would leave Iran suffocated and invisible geographically, bypassed by all major international trade and transit routes. While Iran would still exist on the map, it would be absent from all major trade arteries. “If a country is excluded from the global economy, it becomes highly vulnerable—easily sanctioned or targeted."

This is from an Iranian conference which focuses on potential threats for Iran in the worst case scenario:

“Zangezur Corridor" a 34-year-old US-Israeli Plan

TEHRAN, Aug. 09 (MNA) – Dariush Safarnejad, a senior Caucasus expert, says that the “Zangezur Corridor” is a 34-year-old American plan that Iran and Russia have resisted from the very beginning; that is why it has not been implemented to this day.

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It is the duty of researchers to do such conferences, to give decision makers advises in a what-if-scenario....it doesn't mean they believe that all will materialise.

And while this Trump corridor is not in Irans interest, Armenian Prime minister said connection with Iran Russia will now also progress:

PM: Armenian rail link restoration poised to boost ties with Russia and Iran | Caliber.Az

Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan announced that Armenia will regain a railway connection with Russia, something it has lacked for 30 years. This statement...

caliber.az

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

Iran’s Geography Would Be Suffocated by the Zangezur Corridor

Shoaib Bahman said, “Major projects are forming around Iran, with the Zangezur Corridor being part of them. For years, there has been talk of the Lajevard Corridor in eastern Iran, connecting Pakistan and Afghanistan to Turkmenistan, and possibly to Baku via the Caspian Sea. For linking Afghanistan and Pakistan to Turkey and Europe, Iran is the cheapest and fastest route, yet they are willing to bypass Iran through a combination of rail, sea, and road transport, just to exclude it."

Another project, the ‘IMEC’ Corridor, south of Iran, starts from India, goes to the southern Persian Gulf states, and extends to the occupied territories, the Mediterranean, and Europe—effectively bypassing the Persian Gulf as a unique geopolitical zone. Also, the ‘Development Road’ Corridor west of Iran, through the Persian Gulf and Iraq to Turkey, runs parallel to the North-South Corridor that Iran and Russia have pursued for years—again, excluding Iran, he added.

"Zangezur in the northwest serves the same purpose: removing Iran from transit routes. This isn’t just about transit—it’s about numerous geopolitical and security issues. The four corridors I mentioned, in the north, west, east, and south, would leave Iran suffocated and invisible geographically, bypassed by all major international trade and transit routes. While Iran would still exist on the map, it would be absent from all major trade arteries. “If a country is excluded from the global economy, it becomes highly vulnerable—easily sanctioned or targeted."

Reading the whole article, one can conclude that these jewish plans/ corridors, that have not really economical/financial goals, are planned to circumvent Iran with the backing of Israel allied countries like emirates, turkey, azerbaijan. They are tied to colour revolutions that brought Saakashvili and Pashinyan into power.

The sanctions against Iran will not remain forever and will fade away/become irrelevant by time through alternative mechanisms of Global South/BRICS, for example alternavite payment models which will wekan the nuclear option of sanctions: SWIFT.

That's the moment that makes these corridors (which are more more expensive, less secure, more time consuming) non-profitable and gone with it will be the billions of investments solely to circumvent or weaken Russia and Iran.

In the same article which you posted partially we read the following:
For years, there has been talk of the Lajevard Corridor in eastern Iran, connecting Pakistan and Afghanistan to Turkmenistan, and possibly to Baku via the Caspian Sea. For linking Afghanistan and Pakistan to Turkey and Europe, Iran is the cheapest and fastest route, yet they are willing to bypass Iran through a combination of rail, sea, and road transport, just to exclude it.

These jewish corridors can be maintained only when different conditions could be upheld simultaneously:

• Keeping pouring money on them and paying extra costs, just like avoidance of Bab-Al-Mandab, Red Sea, Suez for shipping which costs EU Yearly 50-100 billions USD extra.
• keeping sanctioning Iran and Russia
• keeping the sanctions effective
• Israel keeping bombing the region and status-quo
• BRICS becoming a failure
• EU, US not declining
• Preventing Armenia becoming independent again (like Georgia nowadays which gets sanctioned)

That's why they are short term, temporary and delusions, designed by a circle of zionists (von der leyen, trump, mertz, netanyahu and their regional actors).

 

[Foinikas]

Surprised?

 

[Echelon1]

Reading the whole article,

Article is all about everything's a Jewish conspiracy, proxy, Iran is the only good, etc. but one thing they're right about that Iran is excluded.

 

[FarhanSiddiqui]

The Iranian Azeris may now think of their options. I know many Iranians in Toronto and they were celebrating Israeli attack on Iran that killed many senior military personnel. They hate present Iranian government that they will have parties celebrating deaths of other Iranians. We might have another Syria/Iraq type war in Iran in the future.

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

Lol, lmfao even.

Imposed? Both Armenia and Azerbaijan agree on this. Now this may be a shock to you, but this is why they signed the agreements. And it’s to the benefit of both countries, unlike your little rambling.

Zelensky also "agreed" with fighting russia and expanding nato towards global south, just like Saakashvili, so imposed on ukranians and georgians is a better choice of words.

 

[Qaraca]

Zelensky also "agreed" with fighting russia and expanding nato towards global south, just like Saakashvili, so imposed on ukranians and georgians is a better choice of words.

This is not about Russia or whatever. This is about lasting peace between Armenia and Azerbaijan. No more wars, normal relations, trade.

If both countries agree on this, then it’s not up to you. You only look like some psycho cheering for eternal wars from outside.

 

[KingQamaR]

There never was an alliance between Russia & Iran, but Iran and other parties will continue to seek common interests through platforms such as BRICS. This is the rising block, whoever doesnt join or wont be allowed to join by their masters will be in decline.

In case that contracts or treaties imposed upon the region deny Iranian interests, they will simply be not durable and expire with the end of Trump and Netanyahu.

Bunch of clowns in front of cameras signing "trump corridor" and telling trump must win the nobel peace prize, comic show.

This South Caucasus is shifting from being an Iranian Russia-dominated buffer zone to a multipolar competition ground — with the U.S., EU, and Turkey playing the lead roles.

It's about commerce. Friendly nations trade with each other. It's a global thing Mate.

I strongly recommend you Iranians get onboard pronto.

 

[battalion25]

Iranians have been rambling about the Zangazur corridor as fantazised red-line and we kept telling them NATO is up in that bitch and was since Turkey had defense treaty wtih Azerbaijan..

Now the narrative has changed to Iran loses nothing here. Ofcourse Iran losses nothing because they were trying to force their azzes into foreign area.

 

[Homajon]

Iran is sending mixed messages:

Iran welcomes Azerbaijan-Armenia peace deal, concerned about foreign meddling

Iran welcomes Azerbaijan-Armenia peace deal, concerned about foreign meddling-

english.news.cn

Velayati: Iran, with or without Russia, prevent the creation of American corridor in Caucasus

Velayati stressed that Iran has always opposed the creation of the so-called Zangezur corridor...

news.am

The Arminian prime minister already said it would not be used for military and seperation, so probably Iran wants guarantes for continious access to the Caucasus.

We have to wait for probably half a year to see what happens. As I read it will take months for Arminia and Azarbaijan to solve remaining issues, otherwise this corridor can not be realised, that is IF this corridor will be realised at all.....

 

[Eşbah]

Iran is a physical reality that cannot be ignored. I don't see see how this undermines Iran's access to the region ? What does this "materially" mean at a negative level for Iran ?

Iran can be ignored, and this just has happened in all actuality.

Indeed, geography is important, but much like many aspects of real life, if you don't know how to utilize it, your geopolitical standing will be of little value just like ones intelligence and talents if you don't know how to apply yourself.

The sole significant winner in this situation is Türkiye. Additionally, the creation of the Zangezur corridor serves Pakistan's interests as it disrupts India's ambitions to access Russia through Iran by land; thus, the so-called North–South trade corridor is now a thing of the past.

I don't have time right now to dive deep into this topic but even the Iranian state is indirectly admitting the defeat:

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- The opening of the border between Türkiye and Armenia is increasingly likely, rendering Eriwan almost entirely reliant on Ankara.

- The Zangezur corridor concludes in Türkiye, granting it the authority to regulate trade between Europe and Central Asia.

- No trade will occur through Iranian territories.

- The Iranians are unlikely to engage in the Caucasus now due to the (limited) American presence.

- In other words, Türkiye has effectively outsourced the risk of any confrontation with Tehran to Washington while retaining the primary benefits.

- Neither Armenia nor Azerbaijan has any motivation to create a land corridor for the Iranians.

- Russian-Iranian trade via the Caspian Sea could be disrupted, becoming a significant bottleneck if they interfere in trade between Central Asia and Türkiye.

- Any Russian collaboration with Iran will be naturally limited by Israeli influence in Moscow.

- The border demarcation between Armenia and Azerbaijan has yet to occur; however, the Armenians have become more dependent on Türkiye and the West strengthening Baku's position.

- Not only has Iran lost, but Russia has too. Their influence in Armenia is diminishing.


-> Iran is cut off from the Caucasus region for decades to come; Russia's influence is steadily waning of; the entire region becomes deeply integrated with Türkiye; China neither loses nor wins therefore has no incentive of intervening.

 

[Eşbah]

Iran's actual position on this matter:

Exclusive | Velayati: Iran will block the American corridor in the Caucasus with or without Russia

(...)
Referring to Iran's firm actions in showing our country's opposition to the launch of this conspiratorial corridor, the advisor to the Supreme Leader on international affairs said:

"When Turkey and the Republic of Azerbaijan insisted on their demand to build this corridor, the military forces of the Islamic Republic of Iran, under the command of Lieutenant General Shahid Bagheri (then Chief of Staff of the Iranian Armed Forces), conducted numerous exercises in northwest Iran, which demonstrated our country's readiness and seriousness in preventing this action."

- With or without Russia, we will prevent the security of the South Caucasus from being jeopardized. -

(...)

Referring to the positions of Mr. Pashinyan, the Prime Minister of Armenia, Velayati said that during his previous visit to Iran, he emphasized that he agreed with Iran's position and opposed the construction of the corridor, given the clear and conspiratorial disadvantages of this plan.

Recalling the changes that the construction of the Zangezur Corridor will bring to Iran's borders and will limit our country's communication route in the north and northwest to Turkey, he stated: "By implementing this conspiracy, the security of the South Caucasus will be jeopardized, and accordingly, Iran has emphasized that it will move towards the security of the South Caucasus, whether with or without Russia, and of course, we believe that Russia is also strategically opposed to this corridor."

(...)

Velayati emphasized that this corridor is not just a commercial passage but a political conspiracy against Iran and some neighboring countries, adding: In addition to Turkey, which is a NATO member, other NATO countries also want to be present in this region and NATO will be like a viper between Iran and Russia; but Iran will not allow such a thing.

(...)

The connection between Nakhchivan and the Republic of Azerbaijan does not require a corridor

The former Foreign Minister of our country stated that the people of the northern regions of Iran, from West and East Azerbaijan to Ardabil and Gilan and Daylamians and Mazandaranians and Khorasanis, etc., will stand against any conspiracy in the northwest of Iran, and emphasized: These people have stood against the Umayyads and the Ottomans throughout history who wanted to occupy this land, and today they will not allow any conspiracy in these regions.

Stating that the connection between the two sides of Nakhchivan and the territory of Azerbaijan does not require a corridor and they can use Iran for this connection, Velayati noted: The equations and relations of this region are not limited to the two countries of Azerbaijan and Armenia, but rather the geopolitical change in the region will also shift the borders of Iran, so we have the right to defend our interests in a completely powerful manner.

Source: https://www.tasnimnews.com/fa/news/...ز-می-شود-خواب-خلع-سلاح-حزب-الله-تعبیر-نمی-شود

 

[Homajon]

Russia cautious on Armenia-Azerbaijan deal, Iran reject border corridor

Russia cautiously welcomed a US-brokered draft deal between Armenia and Azerbaijan on Saturday, but Moscow's regional ally Iran rejected the idea of a new border corridor backed by President Donald Trump. The two former Soviet republics signed a peace deal in Washington on Friday to end a...

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[Anatolia]

Russia cautious on Armenia-Azerbaijan deal, Iran reject border corridor

Russia cautiously welcomed a US-brokered draft deal between Armenia and Azerbaijan on Saturday, but Moscow's regional ally Iran rejected the idea of a new border corridor backed by President Donald Trump. The two former Soviet republics signed a peace deal in Washington on Friday to end a...

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And who exactly cares what Russia's ally Iran thinks? The answer would be no one.
Not only does Iran's view not matter, there's nothing they can do about it.