The Evolution of PAF's JF-17 Thunder through OCU [Operational Capability Upgrade] - News, Updates, Possibilities & Discussions.

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" Look on the nose of many modern jet fighter aircraft and you’ll spot a large bulbous protrusion coming from just near the cockpit

While it has a rather unassuming appearance, this aperture forms an important role in the fighter’s detection and fire control functionality, acting like a powerful thermal camera to spot distant enemy targets and using that data to neutralize the threat.

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The beauty of infrared search and track technology IRST technology is it is completely passive and does not highlight the location of the aircraft, unlike when a pilot decides to use the on-board radar, which can give away its position as radio frequency energy bursts out. IRST can also work in all weather conditions as it uses the infrared rather than the visible part of the electromagnetic spectrum.

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So important is this capability, particularly as China and Russia develop their own stealth aircraft with advanced detection capabilities, that the US is retrofitting many of its advanced fighter aircraft – including the navy’s F/A-18E/F Super Hornet and the air force’s F-15 Eagle – with an IRST capability. It is hoped that with these new “eyes” Western fighter jets will be able to sense adversary aircraft first and kill them before being seen themselves.

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Giorgio Balzarotti, vice president of IRST programmes at Leonardo’s Nerviano site in Italy, said having an IRST sensor is like being in a dark room with your enemy. You are able to see your enemy because of the temperature emitted by them, but they would have to shine a light (analogous to turning on a radar) to be able to see your position. “You are at an advantage...you can be completely silent,” he added.

In the mid-2000s, Leonardo developed its own IRST solution for the advanced nEUROn unmanned combat aerial vehicle (UCAV) built by French aerospace manufacturer Dassault. This unique configuration employed a medium-wave infrared (MWIR) sensor in an air-to-ground application rather than the traditional air-to-air role, but retained the search, detection and tracking functionalities. An additional function was automatic target recognition performed by cross checking the UCAV’s real-time imagery with a database of ground targets.

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This growing experience and expertise saw Leonardo win a contract to supply its new Skyward IRST technologies for Saab’s newest fighter aircraft, the Gripen E. The company is now in the series production phase for the Skyward-G contract, said Balzarotti, and will supply over 60 units for the Swedish Air Force’s Gripen E fleet.

Another variant of the IRST system, Skyward-K has also found success in Asia, and will eventually form part of a new regional fighter programme. Balzarotti did not disclose the customer or the programme due to commercial sensitivities, but said Leonardo would supply 20 units over the next two years. This is believed to be part of a wider technology transfer agreement with the domestic company.



In another sign of the growing appetite for IRST on next-generation platforms, Balzarotti also revealed that Leonardo had been awarded a contract from a Far East customer this year to supply a new Skyward sensor variant known as the Skyward-AB. This will be integrated onto a tactical UAV, which “is not the first time we have tested on an unmanned aircraft, but it is the most important one,” he noted.




It is believed that the tactical UAV is still in its development phase and will be ready next year, with the IRST sensors also being delivered next year for use in an air-to-air detection and tracking role. This the first time an IRST sensor has been used on a UAV in an air-to-air role - the past example of nEUROn was exclusively air-to-ground - although no further details are known at this point owing to its confidential nature.

Leonardo also system in development, known as the Multi-Aperture Infrared (MAIR) system. This differs from past systems in that it uses multiple IR cameras around a platform to aid detection and tracking of targets and threats, rather than just a single aperture as on traditional systems.



“If we are able to have a single head sensor, we can have more than one head to perform full coverage of the scene,” explained Balzarotti.



MAIR has been company funded and will be tested on a helicopter next year. Leonardo is also exploring additional functions including interfacing with countermeasures - to detect incoming rockets or missiles, and dispense flares or cue laser jamming - as well as a pilot aid to increase situational awareness by projecting imagery of their surroundings onto a helmet-mounted holographic display.

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Expect to see more activity in the IRST space in the future, especially as companies such as Leonardo progressively improve the technology and it is fielded on more platforms, including UAVs and helicopters. The combination of both thermal and radar detection technologies, along with more effective image processing, will give aircraft far greater sensing capabilities to address emerging threats in the airborne space."
 
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SPEARS OF VICTORY 2025

"The JF-17 Block III went head-to-head with Western-built jets, drawing attention for its agility, firepower, and advanced electronic warfare suite. With increasing interest in the fighter on the global stage, its performance at Victory Spear 2025 reinforced its growing reputation as a capable and cost-effective combat aircraft."
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Pakistan Air Force JF-17 Block 3 fighters return from Saudi Arabia after participating in the international exercise Spears of Victory-2025. According to the army’s media wing ISPR, JF-17 Thunder Block-III, demonstrated its exceptional operational capabilities against the most advanced fighters during the exercise. – ISPR



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“For this international deployment, PAF fighters executed a non-stop flight from their home base in Pakistan to Saudi Arabia and back, conducting in-flight air-to-air refueling, demonstrating long-range operational capabilities of the JF-17 Block-III aircraft,” the Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) said.

The PAF contingent participated with JF-17 Block-III fighter jets, combat pilots, and technical ground crew. The JF-17 Block-III earned recognition for its performance in combat scenarios, proving its technological strengths and operational potential in comparison to advanced fighter jets.

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KLJ-7A standing toe-to-toe with F35's AN/APG-81?

I highly doubt that, because first, I don't think Chinese AESA radars are that much advanced in comparison to US ones (maybe soon that will become true). Secondly, even if they now have the technological leap, then why would they put it for export? wouldn't they export a toned down version of their "most advanced" AESA radar?
 
KLJ-7A standing toe-to-toe with F35's AN/APG-81?

I highly doubt that, because first, I don't think Chinese AESA radars are that much advanced in comparison to US ones (maybe soon that will become true). Secondly, even if they now have the technological leap, then why would they put it for export? wouldn't they export a toned down version of their "most advanced" AESA radar?
Marketing stuff. Don't take it seriously. KLJ-7A is an air cooled AESA which already an indicator of its limited performance when compared to its closed-loop variant. PAF adopted a simpler version to keep cost low, IMHO.
 
I highly doubt that, because first, I don't think Chinese AESA radars are that much advanced in comparison to US ones (maybe soon that will become true). Secondly, even if they now have the technological leap, then why would they put it for export? wouldn't they export a toned down version of their "most advanced" AESA radar?
Uh-huh. This is a very controversial question. Some people believe that American airborne radar technology is very advanced; others believe that Chinese airborne radar technology is more advanced. At the moment, there will be no precise answer to this question.
On Chinese social media, there is an in-depth analysis with a more neutral viewpoint. It has gained a higher degree of agreement.

Among the main fighters in service, most of China's airborne radars are GaN AESA, while most of the U.S. airborne radars are GaAs AESA.This is the difference between them at the hardware level.

We simplify the knowledge of describing the two semiconductor hardware.
At the same size, we can directly identify GaN AESA as much more advanced than GaAs AESA. However. We know that more power in it means more power consumed. Fighter jets get their power from their engines. This means that when a fighter jet's radar is running at full power, more of its engine energy is converted to electricity than to thrust. It's an energy distribution weighting problem. ------ In most perceptions, US fighter engine thrust is ahead of Chinese fighter engine thrust.

At the same time, we need to know. Radar technology is not just hardware technology, software technology is very high in the whole radar system.
Let's simplify the knowledge.
The same satellite photo, ordinary people can analyze things, and professionals can analyze things, the difference is very big. ------ Also using the free version of Google earth to view a satellite photo of the same coordinate point, an ordinary military fan and a senior military fan will get completely different conclusions.
This is the function undertaken by the software system of the airborne radar. The algorithms of this software system and its knowledge base determine its performance in the field. In this regard, the United States is indeed ahead of China.

So. This is the difference between China and the United States in terms of airborne radar technology. As for who is more advanced, you can speak as you wish.

We should note that: the US is also starting to replace their fighter airborne radars with GaN AESA; and China is constantly updating and upgrading the software systems of their fighter airborne radars. Both sides have not stopped working.

As for the KLJ-7A and AN/APG-81, the real parameters of any airborne radar are highly classified data. Even if the data are published by official organizations, they are false data. Therefore, it is impossible to make an objective data comparison between them.
 
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The "Long Range Stick competition"

Astra MK-3

“Gandiva”​

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"An Air Breathing Type missile - Propelled by a Solid Fuel Ducted Ramjet (SFDR) propulsion system with 190km range at launch altitude of 26000 ft paired with Uttam AESA Radar.

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SFDR system actively exploits atmospheric oxygen through a throttleable ramjet, amplifying thrust duration and expanding the no-escape zone (NEZ) beyond traditional rocket motor capabilities.

On other side with an icreasing altitude - the Oxygen level diminish hence the performance may not reach the advertised specs.

The development would be carefully assessed by regional aitforces and Pakistan Airforce was already in the process of developing solutions to maintain the Loner Stick capability intact. PAF options include Faaz-II , PL-17, PL-21 & Gokhan Ramjet."

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