Trump ally Charlie Kirk shot at campus event in Utah

[AZ_HighCountry]

If you are familiar with Tyler Durden, take this FWIW:

Rifle Ammo In Kirk Assassination Engraved With 'Transtifa' Ideology: Law Enforcement Memo | ZeroHedge

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FBI and ATF will do their due diligence tracing the rifle back to the importer but after that will likely be a dead end. The weapon could have changed hands privately who knows how many times? Further, in the US, an imported weapon will have the importer stamp marks on the receiver. So they already have that information. The question is when did the rifle come in.

As for the "black tactical gear" the shooter was wearing. You can buy that all day long on Amazon or any decent mil-surplus store.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

He got hit in his bulletproof vest and the bullet ricochet upwards to hit him in the neck.

What bullet proof vest? The videos I watched did not show him wearing plates. If he was wearing soft armor under his T-shirt, it would not have been sufficient to stop a rifle round.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

That shooter was a professional.

Maybe. Maybe not. Trained with lots of experience? Maybe.

Editing to add: No professional is going to leave a palm print on their weapon. That weapon would be sterile in all aspects.

 

[Starlord]

There are few things that bothering me over this shooting and I could be overthinking..

1) Shooter was good because he didn't spray bullets and pray 1-2 will hit him, no it was a single shot to his neck/chest to kill that is from a 200 yards which is roughly 2 football fields distance so you have to good if not very very good at shooting. Considering the Wind, crowd and unintentional moves from Kirk which would've save his life.

2) How come they Arrest a old guy, Then release him within hours ?
3) If someone wants to really hurt Right wing celebrities, there are more influential and powerful names, one is Ben Shapiro. I am not saying that he should be the one but if the motive was to harm Right wing voices Kirk wasn't the most popular one.
4) Kirk was a Christian Nationalist and he said it many times, he also was more about America and even starting to get fed up with Israeli's behavior, so taking out him a Christian right winger make a lot more sense for MOSSAD rather than taking out one of their own aka Ben Shapiro.
5) Kirk was famous among certain demographic which young white Christians, his assassination can also be a silent message to other right wingers to don't even think about switching sides.
6) How come Netanyahu who is actively committing a Genocide, attacking 5-6 countries and planning god knows what or who to bomb next, within few minutes tweet about it ?

I think his death will be used as war cry in many right wing circles, they are already blaming left and some even starting to call for violence, so I think for Israel to distract America from piling any pressure on Israel after Doha bombing, they might be looking to bomb other Arab countries while Americans are distracted over Charlie's death.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

To a trained shooter, 200 yards is nothing. Especially in the prone position and with a decent rest. I can do that all day long.

The old guy - initially a suspect because he was running away as well as obstructing something. Not sure what, did not read that, but the police were doing their jobs. Same as with Suspect #2.

Charlie Kirk founded TPA right out of high school. He's still young enough to be considered "one of them" just as AOC is to the left. He built a lot of influence among the younger crowd.

You speak to Kirk being a Christian Nationalist yet look at how Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib speak out in defense of Palestine. You haven't seen either of them assassinated by right win extremists, have you?

 

[شَاھِین شَاہِ لَولَاک]

Let's all honour Charlie's wishes
Remember, no empathy

 

[Starlord]

To a trained shooter, 200 yards is nothing. Especially in the prone position and with a decent rest. I can do that all day long.

The old guy - initially a suspect because he was running away as well as obstructing something. Not sure what, did not read that, but the police were doing their jobs. Same as with Suspect #2.

Charlie Kirk founded TPA right out of high school. He's still young enough to be considered "one of them" just as AOC is to the left. He built a lot of influence among the younger crowd.

You speak to Kirk being a Christian Nationalist yet look at how Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib speak out in defense of Palestine. You haven't seen either of them assassinated by right win extremists, have you?

If you can do doesn't mean every tom dick and harry can too, there is a lot of factors involved, nerves can be tighten in such situation, one mistake and you are done... shooter was trained for sure but give he only fire one shot on the neck he/she is not some Green hair Social justice warrior trans kid.

Yeah but he was release way to early when real shooter is still on the loose, its a high profile killing and suspects doesn't really released that easily.

Kirk indeed build a audience but there are bigger names in Right wing world, his attack doesn't make any sense, his most debates are with woke crowds debating over Gender and gays or trans. But things change after Gaza Genocide begins but we have not seen any Muslim reacting in America over Genocide in Gaza violently except maybe 1-2 incidents. Plus if the shooter was indeed Muslim then Kirk's opinion as bad as they are against Muslims in Generals are not unique in Right wing, majority of Right wing pundits use similar language.

illhan Omar and Taliab are elected candidates, they are not assassinated by who? Muslims well why would they do that? or MOSSAD well these girls serve no purpose, in fact they making noise in US congress means nothing, remember Democrats barred Rashida Talib to talk in US house, so for Israel 4-8 US female senators are no threat and their lives doesn't bring anything to their cause, kirk's death does indeed benefits them as they will try to label this with left and because right now Left is one who taking lead is pro-palestine protests so shooting 2 birds with 1 stone kinda situation.

Now what I am saying is not FACT, its just my observation/theory but feel free to disagree with it.

 

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[AZ_HighCountry]

All I'm saying is the shooter had a level of skill or training to be able to make that shot. You are correct; the Fudd who goes out once a year isn't going to be able to accomplish a shot like that outside of chance.

As for Tlaib and Omar; as elected officials, they are by definition going to have a hate crowd. Especially those two with their own inflammatory rhetoric. Yet, my point still stands. You've not see any attempts on them by the far right.

 

[Liquidator]

All I'm saying is the shooter had a level of skill or training to be able to make that shot. You are correct; the Fudd who goes out once a year isn't going to be able to accomplish a shot like that outside of chance.

As for Tlaib and Omar; as elected officials, they are by definition going to have a hate crowd. Especially those two with their own inflammatory rhetoric. Yet, my point still stands. You've not see any attempts on them by the far right.

And escaped....that is also a skill.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

And escaped....that is also a skill.

Yes, as if it was planned.

Kirk's speaking itinerary was known weeks in advance.

 

[Agnostic Muslim]

Especially those two with their own inflammatory rhetoric.

What rhetoric by those two is inflammatory?

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

A picture of Kirk just prior to the shooting. No indication he is wearing soft armor under his T-shirt:

 

[nahtanbob]

You are obviously incredibly wrong. The US sets precedent in political hits. From John F. Kennedy to numerous other political hits.

We have had high profile ones - like JFK, RFK, Martin Luther King and attempt on Reagan.
Hits on petty political figures are rare.

 

[FuturePAF]

If a bullet hits a bulletproof vest, it usually travels downward, especially if it hits at an elevated angle. (The shooter is higher than him.) And it (The vest) wouldn't do anything unless you are using SAPI, which you will be able to see as you are putting an inch up in front and behind your torso, a rifle round will pierce through anything IIIA or lower.

Thank you for the clarification. In the close up video it appears there was a momentary impact somewhere near the chest with a small object living upwards and into the front of his neck.

We’ll have to let the investigation clarify what happened, but suffice it to say, yesterday was a horrible day for our democracy and free speech.