Trump ally Charlie Kirk shot at campus event in Utah

Did they catch the shooter? who was it and what was his/her political views ?
 
Asfandyar Bhittani said:
Give the Americans a weak state apparatus like us and there would be a civil war by lunch.

It's the overwhelming militarized police state that's keeping them in line for the most part. Take that way, and you will see how "civilized" they are
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Yes, but for how long? Eventually, political leaders' thought process gets transferred over into other agencies.
 
May God raise him up alongside Israelis,
Amen.

(PS if you have a problem with the above prayer, you are insincere. Think about it).
 
Ali_Baba said:
No idea who this bloke is or what he stands for. Shocking video. I wonder what his views were on gun ownership.
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He is pro gun which is mostly the point of right wing speakers, living in US for 5 years one thing for sure that Guns can save lives but also be dangerous, I mean I am all for a handgun by getting proper training for a trainer or ex-cop or military but I see no reason to carry AR-15's in home, and if Govt decide to come for your Guns no one can fight the state specially US state. FBI/SWAT teams will take down any militia if they have too but then without self defense tools you see druggies can break into your home, knife or machete can do harm to your family, you have case of Palestinian kid who was stabbed in his own house by a older guy, if a father had a gun his kid would be alive.
But America is a very fragile society where everyone is on the edge right now, you have right wingers attacking people in Charleston rally, drive throw crowd killing a women, and then you have left wing young people shooting up catholic schools.

You know when I was in Pakistan i used to see cops outside masajid, of course the reason was obvious but seeing 2 Police patrol cars always parked inside/outside Islamic center in Tampa Florida really broke my heart, places of worship regardless of any religion should be no protected by cops people should not threaten temples mosques churches or synagogues. America is a ticking and its society will implode, whether its by design or the evolutionary cycle of a society which has been on a constant state of war and now the violence has reached home to haunt them.
 
Starlord said:
He is pro gun which is mostly the point of right wing speakers, living in US for 5 years one thing for sure that Guns can save lives but also be dangerous, I mean I am all for a handgun by getting proper training for a trainer or ex-cop or military but I see no reason to carry AR-15's in home, and if Govt decide to come for your Guns no one can fight the state specially US state. FBI/SWAT teams will take down any militia if they have too but then without self defense tools you see druggies can break into your home, knife or machete can do harm to your family, you have case of Palestinian kid who was stabbed in his own house by a older guy, if a father had a gun his kid would be alive.
But America is a very fragile society where everyone is on the edge right now, you have right wingers attacking people in Charleston rally, drive throw crowd killing a women, and then you have left wing young people shooting up catholic schools.

You know when I was in Pakistan i used to see cops outside masajid, of course the reason was obvious but seeing 2 Police patrol cars always parked inside/outside Islamic center in Tampa Florida really broke my heart, places of worship regardless of any religion should be no protected by cops people should not threaten temples mosques churches or synagogues. America is a ticking and its society will implode, whether its by design or the evolutionary cycle of a society which has been on a constant state of war and now the violence has reached home to haunt them.
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It is only going to get worse.
 
Path-Finder said:
well since he was up israels arse now he understood how Palestinians feel especially children. If he lives.
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He is gone, probably got hit in the carotid artery, probably bled out in a minute its the kind of hit that you won't survive even if you are at the operating room.
 
PakFactor said:
Yes, but for how long? Eventually, political leaders' thought process gets transferred over into other agencies.
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Depends on how long the tenure is. American state apparatus has been resilient in not getting dragged into the politics of presidents, which are temporary. But given enough time, your will see the Punjab policification of major arms of the federal govt. Some might say it has already started with ICE.
 
PakFactor said:
Yes, but for how long? Eventually, political leaders' thought process gets transferred over into other agencies.
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On social media i remember after Christ Church massacre the right wingers were gloating and celebrating, its insane how the world has stoop to this level. Today the same right wingers look at misery of Gazan's kids and women and shrug it off because these kids or women don't look like, even Arab Christians of Gaza were discarded by the Right wing Christians like Charlie Kirk and others, hence Tucker Carlson who took a stand for them because like or dislike him he is in fact the America first guy, he has no love for Arabs or Muslims but also understand the implication of Israel's grip of America and unfortunately people like Charlie kirk dehumanize Palestinians and demonize Left wing which results in political violence, sad to see something like that happen in a American college or university, no one should suffer in this way including people you and I disagree.
 
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