Trump ally Charlie Kirk shot at campus event in Utah

Yes, but for how long? Eventually, political leaders' thought process gets transferred over into other agencies.
Are you following how the police are persecuting protesters against their corporate funded ‘Cop City’ in Atlanta?

I’d argue that the ‘thought process’ transferred a long time ago.
 
He is pro gun which is mostly the point of right wing speakers, living in US for 5 years one thing for sure that Guns can save lives but also be dangerous, I mean I am all for a handgun by getting proper training for a trainer or ex-cop or military but I see no reason to carry AR-15's in home, and if Govt decide to come for your Guns no one can fight the state specially US state. FBI/SWAT teams will take down any militia if they have too but then without self defense tools you see druggies can break into your home, knife or machete can do harm to your family, you have case of Palestinian kid who was stabbed in his own house by a older guy, if a father had a gun his kid would be alive.
But America is a very fragile society where everyone is on the edge right now, you have right wingers attacking people in Charleston rally, drive throw crowd killing a women, and then you have left wing young people shooting up catholic schools.

You know when I was in Pakistan i used to see cops outside masajid, of course the reason was obvious but seeing 2 Police patrol cars always parked inside/outside Islamic center in Tampa Florida really broke my heart, places of worship regardless of any religion should be no protected by cops people should not threaten temples mosques churches or synagogues. America is a ticking and its society will implode, whether its by design or the evolutionary cycle of a society which has been on a constant state of war and now the violence has reached home to haunt them.
The second amendment is a great thing in my view and people can have disagreements.

My take is that if you get invaded, you are gona need to be strapping! I remember when Yugoslavia dissolved and the serbs had the guns and others were unarmed. the unarmed crowd got massacred. So its better to be a responsible gun owner than b at the mercy.
 
Years ago on legacy PDF, I used to say that the US is very close to anarchy. A certain American Vietnamese member who claims to be a pilot held his finger up and told us that I was wrong. Republican and Democrat rivalry existed a long time ago. Everything was okay in the US. The extreme rhetoric was just a normal occurrence. Well, look where we are today.

Political violence in the US stretches back to the 1800s. You don’t know our history very well. The 1960s were far more turbulent than today. JFK, Bobby Kennedy, MLK assasinations, Vietnam War, hippy anti war movement, race riots etc
 
It is only going to get worse.
Its already worse, me and J_hungry has conversations about this, this divide between right/left will gain more traction specially after this incident, if he dies then the people on right will come stronger with narrative that right has to prepare to fight antifa etc, on the other hand the Trump like presidents increasing military takeover's of US state will increase in resentment towards the right wingers, America is one major incident away from major violence streaks that will take many American cities into its fold, And I know many Pakistani's here would say America is safe etc but people are living on the edge, example of it that you will see cop cars outside Mosques, this is not Bloody Afghanistan or Pakistan... its United States where people should feel safe to practice their faith or having conversations but you feel scared that what day or time a lunatic charged with any religious ideology can enter a mosque or Church or Jewish temple to shoot innocent people.
 
Give the Americans a weak state apparatus like us and there would be a civil war by lunch.

It's the overwhelming militarized police state that's keeping them in line for the most part. Take that way, and you will see how "civilized" they are

Currently the only heavy police presence is in cities..

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Political violence in the US stretches back to the 1800s. You don’t know our history very well. The 1960s were far more turbulent than today. JFK, Bobby Kennedy, MLK assasinations, Vietnam War, hippy anti war movement, race riots etc
Yeah but Guns are not as widely accessible as back in 1800's or 1970's... you can support either side of political spectrum but you can't deny the very visible cracks in US society and how on edge people are.
 
Yeah but Guns are not as widely accessible as back in 1800's or 1970's... you can support either side of political spectrum but you can't deny the very visible cracks in US society and how on edge people are.

The 1960s was FAR worse than today, and it’s not even close.
 
Was it a sniper or something?
 

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