Trump ally Charlie Kirk shot at campus event in Utah

[Starlord]

If that's true, they are sitting in a concentration camp right now. They just know it yet

Ben Shapiro is far bigger right wing pundit and a Israeli Agent in American right wing, first he kicked Candance owen for Questioning Israeli, and now Charlie. One would wonder if Tyler wanted to harm Right wingers than why Charlie kirk ? Well Ben is one of them and for essential to drive Israel's narrative in Right wing audience, this death of Charlie is basically a message to Right wing pundits from Candance Owens to Joe Rogan or Tucker Carlson to Matt Walsh, behave or you will be next.

 

[ThoroughPro]

Can u send me the link?

Huh? You need to reread my post. I said the shooter has a clean LOS; I didn't say this is a clean shot. I said IF YOU ARE SF, you are going to want to look for that CLEAN SHOT with Subcalvian Artery. I don't think he is SF.

I did not misunderstood you, I just added my thoughts on the quality or lack of it on the shot to complement your post that the shooter did not looked to be professional

 

[flyingorca]

Ben Shapiro is far bigger right wing pundit and a Israeli Agent in American right wing, first he kicked Candance owen for Questioning Israeli, and now Charlie. One would wonder if Tyler wanted to harm Right wingers than why Charlie kirk ? Well Ben is one of them and for essential to drive Israel's narrative in Right wing audience, this death of Charlie is basically a message to Right wing pundits from Candance Owens to Joe Rogan or Tucker Carlson to Matt Walsh, behave or you will be next.

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[j_hungary]

I did not misunderstood you, I just added my thoughts on the quality or lack of it on the shot to complement your post that the shooter did not looked to be professional

As I mentioned in that post, I don't think he is a pro, and I listed the reasons why. Well, I don't remember what I said at the onset of the event when we only knew so little. However, at that point, when I made that particular post, a lot was known, which is why I posted my thoughts on my own.

 

[Surya2023]

A security team that can do this job is going to cost, unless you have local or federal protection. A friend of mine, who's a former Green Beret and Ranger, runs a protection agency that basically protects singers and movie stars on tour. You are talking about $ 2 to $ 5 million for an average 20-man team, and 20 men won't cover this vast area. Because most of those things are indoor

There are different levels of security teams, some comprising current or former police officers. You are talking about $10,000-$20,000 per event, and then there are dedicated, trained teams, usually offered by security solutions, which can cost up to $100k per event. The most expensive is a former SF or a former USSS/DSS guy, both have extensive personal protection experience, and those teams cost 7 digits.

Kirk is a mid-level YouTube streamer with a political connection; he won't be able to afford the A team on this. Probably, his team was provided by a trained team from Serco or Triple Canopy

Read the article on bbc on Charlie Kirk to know about this guy to the present administration. You don’t think JD and Usha Vance will go personally and JD is a pall bearer. This guy is deep with administration. Don Jr mentioned he is like a brother. TPUSA (his firm) has more than 82 million in donations. He would have become a big politician in conservative circles in few years. I never heard of him as I am not much into republican politics.

I know it will be silly question how much would a bullet proof and bomb proof enclosure (like what pope uses) would cost. I don’t think he imagined he will be targeted that is the reason he was not prepared. USA has become divisive and the hatred between groups is reaching epic proportions. I have lived in USA for more than 27 years and have seen the changes. My last straw was Roe Vs Wade. I am very passionate about that topic which made me move out of USA.

 

[Mobius]

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[Mobius]

Zio Jooz.....

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[j_hungary]

Read the article on bbc on Charlie Kirk to know about this guy to the present administration. You don’t think JD and Usha Vance will go personally and JD is a pall bearer. This guy is deep with administration. Don Jr mentioned he is like a brother. TPUSA (his firm) has more than 82 million in donations. He would have become a big politician in conservative circles in few years. I never heard of him as I am not much into republican politics.

I know it will be silly question how much would a bullet proof and bomb proof enclosure (like what pope uses) would cost. I don’t think he imagined he will be targeted that is the reason he was not prepared. USA has become divisive and the hatred between groups is reaching epic proportions. I have lived in USA for more than 27 years and have seen the changes. My last straw was Roe Vs Wade. I am very passionate about that topic which made me move out of USA.

Well, again, as I said, I don't know his team and how much he spends on security; he could have spent millions on his security. I don't know. What I do know is that what they did (barring the result) does not appear to be the result of their security team knowing what they are doing. He could have spent millions on security. I can only say his people made several fundamental mistakes (They did not secure the open area with direct LOS, they did not do enough on crowd control, and they didn't even prep the event enough)

There are three types of security companies. You have a local (Local LEO moonlight as security), contract (People that was trained by contracted solution like G4S, Kelloggs and so on), and tailored solution (Usually lead by and protected by people who had close/personal protection experience with the highest level (USSS, DSS or Delta), as I said, a friend of mine was in the business, he protected rockstars, popstars, movie stars, and not everyone can afford his service, you are talking about it is close to the personnel security with Jeff Bezos. That round-the-clock contract would have cost $100 million plus every year.

As for how much of a bulletproof, explosion-proof box? IT's going to cost millions of dollars. I mean, sure, he helps the GOP rake in tens or even hundreds of millions of dollars, but that does not mean he himself pocketed that amount. Again, I don't know what kind of security he was using; I just know his team makes quite a lot of mistakes.

 

[j_hungary]

By the way, in case you are wondering, there is an explanation on some (if not all) of his casing inscription.

Some gamers and devs believe those cases referred to a popular game called "Helldiver 2". The arrow inscription is the same as the sequence that you put in the game to call a bomb strike. And the game is based on the movie Starship Troopers, which basically mocks the nationalist and fascist, and there is a lot of trolling involved in the game, especially in the inscription of trolling and warcry on their weapon and bullet (also artillery round)

And finally, one of the aspects of the game is that "Friendly Fire is ALWAYS on," which is the central theme of the game; the dev was using this to make a very funny running joke

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Charlie Kirk Shooter May Have Carved Helldivers Code on Bullet Casing

Fans of the Helldivers video game offered a theory about Charlie Kirk shooting suspect Tyler Robinson after Utah Gov. Spencer Cox noted that one of the

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I am also a player on this game, and this make sense to me as a player, and you should read your own label

 

[Yousafzai_M]

Can u send me the link?

It was on X but I see have they removed it. I am sure it will come up if you search.

 

[Agnostic Muslim]

Just another reminder about which side/ideology actually dehumanizes the ‘other’ and pushes violence:

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[Starlord]

No One in America now talking about How Israel bombed Qatar and try to kill negotiating team, Guess mission was a successful from those who intended it.

 

[FuturePAF]

Here is a hypothesis someone put out:

Is the murderer actually a right wing guy, particularly a Nick Fuentes following “Grouper”? Killed because Charlie was not seen as right wing enough. Decades of hate in online culture (right and left) radicalizing this individual that killed Charlie?

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[FuturePAF]

Just another reminder about which side/ideology actually dehumanizes the ‘other’ and pushes violence:

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This is insane for many reasons, but I’ll just give one. There is not enough spent on mental health care in the US. There is not enough spent on drug rehabilitation. There is not enough spent on even SROs as there use to be, so poor single people, couples or small families can afford to stay indoors.

We are watching the fallout of the decline in quality of life and opportunities for decades now. Things are starting to give.

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[j_hungary]

Here is a hypothesis someone put out:

Is the murderer actually a right wing guy, particularly a Nick Fuentes following “Grouper”? Killed because Charlie was not seen as right wing enough. Decades of hate in online culture (right and left) radicalizing this individual that killed Charlie?

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It depends on which side of the spectrum you want to believe.

There are people on the left saying this is Trump trying to stir the pot and make an excuse to wait for all this to go to hell and declare a state of emergency, no more voting in 2026 and 2028.

There are also people on the right saying this is the left declaring war on the right, and they are going to fight. This is mainly going to lead to the same outcome I mentioned earlier.

There are always other reasons other than either left or right policy. Remember why John Hinckley wanted to assassinate Ronald Reagan? Hinckley tried to impress actress Jodie Foster.....Or why Sirhan Sirhan wanted to assassinate Robert Kennedy Sirhan think Kennedy betray him by selling Israel Fighter Jet (Even tho whether or not killing him changes nothing in this) If I have to guess, there are probably some other reason Robinson did it if it was him that did it, most likely just an troll act like the message he inscribe on the casing.