Trump said five Indian Jets were shot down

I'm worried about why the West has turned against India. Are they going to use Pakistan? Pakistani short-sighted policymakers may destroy our relationship with China, while trying to keep India close to China. This is very dangerous. The signals coming from Washington and the West against India are alarming, and the applause within the Pakistan Air Force and in the UK is also concerning. These signs are not good.
Pakistan must not lose China. If India agrees on pakistanis and Chinese term s, it can be great. Organization include Russia, Pakistan, China and India. East will rull the world without any problems

The west and particularly america is absolutely livid with the indians. The white europeans have spent 100s of millions of dollars over the past 24 years in trying to make india into a superpower that can take on China. Those hundreds of millions of dollars have to come to waste as the west and america now know that india is both incapable and unwilling to take on China. india can't even take on Pakistan let alone China. This damning realisation by the white europeans have made them really mad. Pakistan smashing india and shooting down the rafales was the final nail in the indian coffin.
 
Seems like its time they need to be occupied again
I think India will try to fix things with China, as they have a tendency to bow down to power—this seems to be part of their mentality.

But one thing is clear: if India, China, Pakistan, and Russia come together, they could protect the East—from Jerusalem all the way to the rest of the world. This is what India needs to do. They must accept realities, improve relations with Pakistan and China, and live as good neighbors and partners.

Because I believe the West is coming after them now. The West has realized that India was overestimating its power and influence. In truth, India is very vulnerable right now—and the West never forgives vulnerability. Whenever they see a weak country, they exploit it and steal its resources.
 
Trump didn't mention a country name because its common knowledge. Whole world has seen wreckages of the indian aircrafts with their own eyes. There isn't even a shred of doubt that Rafales were shot down. So, is there any need to mention that indian rafales were shot down? Every person with a singe brain cell knows that Pakistan do not have Rafales, SU30s, mig29, m2Ks.

BTW, I am glad we have different warplanes, if we had same type of planes. Whole india would have comfortably be sharing wreckages of their planes and claiming those to be Pakistanis.
 
I think India will try to fix things with China, as they have a tendency to bow down to power—this seems to be part of their mentality.

But one thing is clear: if India, China, Pakistan, and Russia come together, they could protect the East—from Jerusalem all the way to the rest of the world. This is what India needs to do. They must accept realities, improve relations with Pakistan and China, and live as good neighbors and partners.

Because I believe the West is coming after them now. The West has realized that India was overestimating its power and influence. In truth, India is very vulnerable right now—and the West never forgives vulnerability. Whenever they see a weak country, they exploit it and steal its resources.

India will eventually be subservient to China, it is inevitable. Chinese are very bright and always see the long game.

China knows it will always have Pakistan to "police" India.

China, Pak, India having good trade relationships will be amazing for everyone, but Chinese and Pakistanis know the Baniya mind very well by now, we will ensure noose will be around them while we trade....
 
India will eventually be subservient to China, it is inevitable. Chinese are very bright and always see the long game.

China knows it will always have Pakistan to "police" India.

China, Pak, India having good trade relationships will be amazing for everyone, but Chinese and Pakistanis know the Baniya mind very well by now, we will ensure noose will be around them while we trade....
If they don't accept terms from Pakistan and China, they will lose the country in front of West. accepting Chinese and Pakistani terms will give them smooth sailing and it will be good for Asia
 
BTW, if tomorrow Trump specifically mention india that they lost 5 planes and I helped them and stopped the war. Then 1.5 billion indians will ask a question, he didn't mention planet. Was he talking about india in planet earth or referring to another planet in any other galaxy? We don't know yet. So :S
 
He specifically said "shiot down" Indian claims were they damaged PAF plane on the ground.

Anyway, simple fact if IAF have not given numbers or type of any plane of PAF for their claims. So hard for Indians to now debate what nationality the planes were, as by default, IAF have not made any claims, and PAF have denied losses. PAF have made claims and IAF have admitted losses.

All that is now being debated is numbers. 5 or 7....
 
I'm still angry. Why Pakistan sent their fighter jet abroad. They can be seen and judge and the technology can be stolen and copy
 
I'm still angry. Why Pakistan sent their fighter jet abroad. They can be seen and judge and the technology can be stolen and copy

It is not that easy and PAF would not have done it had there been a risk.

Yes, one issue is RAF Fairford (where RIAT is held) is a US and RAF run base with a lot of Americans stationed there, they will be desperate to get their hands on the AESA and PL-15 tech

My only guess is we have sent the planes with dummy missiles and deactivated or taken off the radars/ew kit.

There ares security protocols in place at these these things, both RAF and USAF are displaying the F-35 too, and naturally PAF will not be allowed to close to these!
 
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Okay today is cry day for Indians. 😁
Trump said five Indian Jets were shot down. 😂😂😂😂
This is going to bring a meltdown in Indian media. I am waiting for those India media statements now.
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Take away from this is maintaining sub-conventional, conventional, and nuclear parity with India as well as a growing economy, with room for trade growth. We have to remember that the Pakistani population is set to grow 60% in the next 40 years and double in the next 80 years. India’s population is set to grow 20% over the next 40 years and then begins decline back to its current level in 80 years.

Couple this with how backwards Pakistan is on an economic basis, Pakistan is the quintessential undiscovered diamond in the literal rough. Surrounded by growing economies; akin to Eastern Europe 35 years ago. Which is unlike the only other place of rapid population growth; Africa.


Trump can see it.

The prowess and professionalism of the combat capabilities of the armed forces isn’t the only factor in this statement.
 
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America still being easy on India. He could have pointed out how India panicked and began using nuke capable cruise missiles, BrahMos, but it proved a dud too. BrahMos attacks caused minimal damage. India was also diplomatically isolated.

West is sending multiple messages to wayward India to get back in line but bakht brains are malfunctioning on excessive ego and bollywood jhatkas.
 
There's no way of US knowing how many jets from which side went down. Jaisankar has already stated that US was in the US and its too far to see any jets.

Nevertheless the noble nominee has managed to avoid war through ceasefire but lasting solution to Kashmir can only turn this ceasefire into a big beautiful deal.
 
The titanic never sunk. It was a lie.
You mean the famous ship Titanic, I guess ? Did Trump say "five Indian jets" were shot down or "five jets" ? You are always free to live in your alternate reality where the Titanic never sank and Trump said five Indian jets were shot down.
 
You mean the famous ship Titanic, I guess ? Did Trump say "five Indian jets" were shot down or "five jets" ? You are always free to live in your alternate reality where the Titanic never sank and Trump said five Indian jets were shot down.

Sweet how hard the cope is today
 

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