Trump says one officer shot at DC dinner, suspect in custody

[Hakwa Nadro]

At least she showed up for work.

In the Butler incident, wasn't there a SS agent who stayed home to breast feed?

Wouldn't it be a hoot if it's the same SS agent?

what you wanna do, test her for lactation

 

[Davey Crockett]

 

[hasssanali8998]

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Lmao

 

[HAIDER]

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[东风夜放花千树]

Actually -- yes.

Criticizing speech, in other words, challenging someone's opinions, is free speech. And it is unique to the US in the sense that it is legally protected. I guess that as a Chinese citizen, having your own speech challenged is a strange experience?

I did not feel strange. No one is an omnipotent deity. So, when others have different opinions about my views, it is perfectly acceptable for them to express their own opinions.

We also have freedom of speech, which is equally protected by law.

This is a forum that provides everyone with a platform to discuss issues. If a viewpoint is questioned, one should fully express their own perspective and leave the judgment to other members. It is not appropriate to simply say that this viewpoint is nonsense and to stop raising it. Americans put themselves in both the positions of the contestant and the referee. Of course, Americans can 'win' in communication, although this 'victory' is what Americans themselves believe.

This American was not using a tone of discussion, nor was he even criticizing. He was directly accusing or even attacking. This is similar to the current situation in the United States.

Since taking office, Trump has repeatedly accused and even attacked President Biden. Is this also an American habit? I do not think everything President Biden has done is wrong. President Biden began his political career in 1970 and has extensive political experience. Trump’s political experience is only 5 years: 4 years as the 45th president and 1 year as the 47th president.

No wonder American negotiations can only succeed with countries or organizations where the U.S. military is stationed. America hopes to achieve unequal treaties from a position of superiority, even in a discussion on a forum.

 

[东风夜放花千树]

I didn't say that, I said the entire thing was suss. I don't care who hires those people, I care about how they do their job, and is it a fact that ALMOST ALL OF THE RECENT ASSASSINATIONS are aimed toward Trump? So either people like to kill him, like a lot, or his protection detail is not doing their job. I mean, how many plans to assassinate Biden, Obama, and Bush? So what if I actually say the protection quality dipped when Trump is president, when it is a fact that there were already 4 attempts on his life in just 2 years, and 2 of them, I will say Trump is lucky to be alive. Was it wrong?

And you seem to forget, Trump was also president in 2017, most of the intakes in his term back then would have made up the backbone of the Presidential Protection Service now.

Again, I want to ask you, how much do you know about the Secret Service and how to perform personnel protection?

I agree with your point of view.

This matter is precisely the failure of the security forces.

I don't understand why anyone would defend the negligent security forces.

If the United States cannot provide effective security, it can learn from Pakistan. The Islamabad negotiations just concluded not long ago, and the security for that meeting was much more difficult than for a White House dinner in the United States.

 

[j_hungary]

Sure...people jump the White House fence and then security grabs them (hopefully quickly). It happens.

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Intruder jumps White House fence, sparks evacuation

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Not uncommon for people to make it over the fence

At the Washington Hilton the guy ran through the metal detector area and then was tackled by the security further down the hallway. They aren't going to lock arms like a rugby team at the metal detectors.

You still don't know what I said.......So, was the white house fence 10-20 yards away from the President?

Again, I can jump over the concrete barricade outside my FOB, but that does not mean I can get close to the barracks. You are talking about the outer checkpoint and the closed checkpoint; threats are supposed to be breached at the outer checkpoint if you want to deal with a threat. That is the reason why the outer checkpoint (the white house perimeter fence) is 100 yards away, not within 20 yards of the detail. If a car breached the outer perimeter of my base, I would light it up like a Christmas tree. The Viet Cong breached the outer fence of the Embassy Wall, they got lit up in the courtyard, NOT INSIDE THE Embassy.

The fact that he was outside the president and close enough in an area that the President can hear a gunshot, without being stopped, that's already a very big breach of protocol. THAT SHOULD NOT HAVE HAPPEN, because that SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED OUTSIDE. You want him to try to breach the checkpoint outside so you have time to react. Now, I don't know why or how he got into the building, but I don't need to know why or how he got into the building to know that it is a security and personal protection failure. AND IT'S A MAJOR ONE.

 

[j_hungary]

And what about the guy in Florida with an SKS? Really? Who uses an SKS?

The kid in Pennsylvania was a dumbass. That shot could have been made offhand by anyone with even the slightest amount of firearms skill.

Well, if I had to assassinate someone using a rifle, it would not be any assault or battle rifle; that would have to be a sniper rifle (not even a marksman rifle) because that gives me the range, otherwise I would definitely prefer a revolver, rfile with 4-500 yards range don't give you any advantage if the protection detail is half descent, you are going to get spotted even in the crowd because you will be sticking out. I might as well just use a better concealed weapon and try to get close.

And I have done a very long observation post on the Butler guy, let's just say if that rolls head (I think it forces the director to resign), this is going to be an earthquake.

 

[j_hungary]

Lol. This is the first incident of Trump's second term; you made the claim SS quality has gone down since Trump took charge which is a moronic claim and you yourself know it. Just admit you were having a TDS moment when you made that claim.

Again, NUMBERS in the last 20 years.......

Trump - 8 attempts, 4 successful carried out
Biden - 1, not successfully carried out
Obama - 2, you can say one of them was successfully carried out, but that was shots from 750 meters away.

Explain to me the difference in the number?

Again, I don't like Trump; that's no secret. The issue here is, Trump is the denominator of all these assassinations, and do you think who is in charge of HIS protection? I can tell you that's not a democrat. So putting it in as "TDS" is just stupid.

Oh where to start.....

Majority of dates happened when Trump wasn't president, notice that? A lot of those dates and plots happened nowhere near the presidents including the 2017 forklift incident where cops only found out after interviewing the sus. Police thought he was just stealing a forklift. Get this through your head... the hiring standards for SS was lowered under Barry in the name of diversity and got much worse under Biden. Now if you believe you can't make SS PPT under the standards back then it speaks volumes about you.

Huh? You do know President Candidate, President Elect, and President all have the same protection details, right? So, if he is just a candidate, it should be easier to assassinate simply because he is a candidate? Well, sure, got it.

And again, "Barry" hire would not be anywhere close to a protection detail when most of his assassination attempts occurred. How many times do I have to tell you, you don't get to protect the President just right out of the street? You keep saying "Obama Hire Those People" has no bearing in this discussion.

Oh this is very easy to answer and I hope you watch because it really does answer the question.

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The left is violent and have a rich history of it that is why Barry and Biden were pretty much safe unlike Trump where the left actually wishes for his death.

Dude, sure, just because the left is more violent, so we should let them carry out their violence, right? Hey, we all know they hated that guy, let's leave a giant gap between the barricade and the metal detector so people can run through, knowing every lefty hates Trump.

Dude, do you even know what you are talking about? Make it make sense for me, thanks.

 

[j_hungary]

I agree with your point of view.

This matter is precisely the failure of the security forces.

I don't understand why anyone would defend the negligent security forces.

If the United States cannot provide effective security, it can learn from Pakistan. The Islamabad negotiations just concluded not long ago, and the security for that meeting was much more difficult than for a White House dinner in the United States.

What's even funnier is that these people not only try to defend the failure, but also try to pin it on someone else. This @SolarWarden dude keeps saying I have TDS to point out that Trump's team is at fault.

It's just basic protection 101. The first thing you learn anywhere teaching protection, YOU COMMUNICATE AND COORDINATE with the person you want to protect, because that person is the most important, as he is what you are protecting. That's why it ALWAYS goes back to him, and if he doesn't care about his own safety, what do you think will happen?

This isn't some cunning assassination attempt, and it's NOT the first time that was "successfully" carried out, which means either Trump and whoever is in charge of his safety does not care about how jobs are being done, or they think that is an adequate amount of protection. If I do have TDS, I will actually keep my mouth shut because if this continues, one of those times this lack is going to come back and bite him, and that would be gospel to everyone that hates him.

 

[东风夜放花千树]

What's even funnier is that these people not only try to defend the failure, but also try to pin it on someone else. This @SolarWarden dude keeps saying I have TDS to point out that Trump's team is at fault.

It's just basic protection 101. The first thing you learn anywhere teaching protection, YOU COMMUNICATE AND COORDINATE with the person you want to protect, because that person is the most important, as he is what you are protecting. That's why it ALWAYS goes back to him, and if he doesn't care about his own safety, what do you think will happen?

This isn't some cunning assassination attempt, and it's NOT the first time that was "successfully" carried out, which means either Trump and whoever is in charge of his safety does not care about how jobs are being done, or they think that is an adequate amount of protection. If I do have TDS, I will actually keep my mouth shut because if this continues, one of those times this lack is going to come back and bite him, and that would be gospel to everyone that hates him.

This is indeed the basic responsibility that a protector should fulfill.

Ignoring the facts and shifting responsibility to others is an irresponsible act.

In this incident, the shooter was about 45.7 meters away from Trump.

On September 15, 2024, a shooter attempted to attack Trump from a distance of 274 meters to 457 meters.

On July 13, 2024, a shooter attacked Trump from a distance of 180 meters to 275 meters.

I am shocked that the level of security for the President of the United States is so poor, especially in a country where gun ownership is legal.

 

[SolarWarden]

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Fake. It's AI and has been debunked he is a free palestine lefty and this is the real pic...

 

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[MH.Yang]

Those who truly want to kill Trump will only shoot after the midterm elections and Trump's victory. Only those who want to help Trump in the midterm elections will carry out a performance style assassination before the election.

 

[SolarWarden]

Those who truly want to kill Trump will only shoot after the midterm elections and Trump's victory. Only those who want to help Trump in the midterm elections will carry out a performance style assassination before the election.