Trump talks to Putin, then announces diesel deal with Russia, in sharp reversal of US policy

Again, would the EU stop supporting Ukraine if it keeps bombing Russian oil infrastructure? That answer remains to be seen....

Europe is already in a crisis with the US; whether we like it or not, I will not say this is going to be a complete dissolution, but it's beyond the term of "you scratch my back, and I'll scratch yours." I don't think there is any love lost if EU and UK openly defy Trump.

On the other hand, the GOP is poised to lose Congress and may even lose the Senate as well; Trump can't do much to Europe, let alone Ukraine, once they lose at least Congress in mid-term.




Europe has never been part of the game , but mainly the menu. The EU been virtue signalling about Ukraine but still buy energy from Russia & if they don’t buy it directly Russia sell fuel to a friendly, country that then sell it on the EU.
 
Europe has never been part of the game , but mainly the menu. The EU been virtue signalling about Ukraine but still buy energy from Russia & if they don’t buy it directly Russia sell fuel to a friendly, country that then sell it on the EU.
Again, going back to the beginning when Trump took office. I have already said there aren't going to any changes in Ukraine even if the US completely abandons it, which we did.

That's because the war in Ukraine is a different thing in Europe, especially toward Eastern Europe; they will find a way to support it even if it means crawling on hands and knees. Expecting anything other than this is probably wishful thinking

On the other hand, EU "Dependence" on Russian energy is basically on a few specific countries, namely Hungary and Slovakia; even the EU as a whole has half the energy from Russia.
 
The f22 raptor is decades old and still the most lethal stealth air superiority fighter on Earth.

You hate America so of course you would never admit that.

F-22 is not as capable as J-20. J-20 is essentially twin engine F-35.
 
This Trumps agreement with Putin to supply Russian diesel fuel to the United States may directly contradict law!

Exactly - it is all "optional", and the last country we should expect to respect laws, either internal or external, is the USA !
 
What does this have anything to do with anything you said?

And it wasn't me who said the US should transfer PAC-3 to Russia; that's not my pipedream.

POTUS has the authority to violate federal laws. US federal law says the US must maintain 12 aircraft carriers. The US had 10 aircraft carriers between 2012 and 2017. What do you say about that? The US is not a nation of laws. The US is a mafia society.
 
POTUS has the authority to violate federal laws. US federal law says the US must maintain 12 aircraft carriers. The US had 10 aircraft carriers between 2012 and 2017.
Again, even if Trump ignores Federal Law, is he or Putin going to foot the bill for a couple of billion dollars for a PAC-3 system?

And no, overriding a federal law using executive power is not the same as overriding foreign policy to sell stuff to Russia without Congress's approval.......POTUS can direct a government department to act; he CANNOT direct Congress to act.

Also, 10 USC 5062, the law that dictates the US Navy Composition, requires 11 carriers, not 12.........and Article 2 is not a federal law, it's part of US constitution..........
 
Again, even if Trump ignores Federal Law, is he or Putin going to foot the bill for a couple of billion dollars for a PAC-3 system?

And no, overriding a federal law using executive power is not the same as overriding foreign policy to sell stuff to Russia without Congress's approval.......POTUS can direct a government department to act; he CANNOT direct Congress to act.

Also, 10 USC 5062, the law that dictates the US Navy Composition, requires 11 carriers, not 12.........and Article 2 is not a federal law, it's part of US constitution..........

The US is not a nation of laws. The US is a mafia society. FDA is cahoots with pharma to harm Americans for profit. Nobody respects the law in the US.
 
Again, going back to the beginning when Trump took office. I have already said there aren't going to any changes in Ukraine even if the US completely abandons it, which we did.

That's because the war in Ukraine is a different thing in Europe, especially toward Eastern Europe; they will find a way to support it even if it means crawling on hands and knees. Expecting anything other than this is probably wishful thinking

On the other hand, EU "Dependence" on Russian energy is basically on a few specific countries, namely Hungary and Slovakia; even the EU as a whole has half the energy from Russia.



America has made clown of Ukraine and Europe.
Ukrainians dying on Battlefield for American ambition of weakening Russia. Their country's getting wrecked
Europeans lost cheap Russian energy and resources, European industries are shutting down.
America selling Fossil fuel to Europe and asking them to buy American weapons for Ukraine. America buying cheap Russian diesel for itself.
Never heard of such war profiteering.
Turns our European blood cold.
 
The US is not a nation of laws. The US is a mafia society. FDA is cahoots with pharma to harm Americans for profit. Nobody respects the law in the US.
Are you American, lived under American law?

Otherwise, I don't really want to know or care about how you think about US society.
 
Are you American, lived under American law?

Otherwise, I don't really want to know or care about how you think about US society.

The ruling society is above the law in the US. Nobody arrested for Epstein island. Nobody arrested for cov debacle.
 
America has made clown of Ukraine and Europe.
Ukrainians dying on Battlefield for American ambition of weakening Russia. Their country's getting wrecked
Europeans lost cheap Russian energy and resources, European industries are shutting down.
America selling Fossil fuel to Europe and asking them to buy American weapons for Ukraine. America buying cheap Russian diesel for itself.
Never heard of such war profiteering.
Turns our European blood cold.
The war can be done tomorrow if Russia is gone. You can say whatever you want between the US, Europe, and the Ukrainian war, but that has no bearing on the war because the war itself does not concern the US and Europe; it's only between Ukraine and Russia.,

Quoting the great Commandant Quinlan of the Irish Defence Force

"If you continue to attack, we will continue to defend ourselves"

Anything else is BS, you can say whatever you want to say standing outside looking in, the question is, even if what you said was true, are you going to tell the Ukrainian to lay down their arms and get rolled over so they don't become pawns in this war?

I don't know how much you actually know about why this war happened. I have been to Ukraine 6 times, and I just actually went back from a 4-month trip between Ukraine and Poland, and let me tell you this: even if the EU says, "We are going to withdraw all support to Ukraine" tomorrow, they aren't going to lay down their arms and just roll over, for you, standing outside, whether or not which camp you are in, you see this war as an "American Ambition" to destroy Russia; you see this as a war Trump is making money. But do you know what a normal Ukrainian sees? Somebody bombs my village, killing my parents and making me homeless, and then the same people say my rights do not exist, and my country does not exist. Now you tell that man or woman to stop fighting?

You, and I, who have no stake in this war, can talk loudly outside and without any care or any circumspection of any point why this war is going on; that's not the same when YOU ARE THE ONE the Russians are trying to kill. What do you think the Russians are doing in the warzone? Asking the Ukrainian to come in a share a pint of vodka?
 
The ruling society is above the law in the US. Nobody arrested for Epstein island. Nobody arrested for cov debacle.
Huh? Do remind me where Epstein allegedly killed himself?

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And I respect your opinion as much as I respect how cockroaches see my world, especially I have to correct you 6 times in this thread about US law already.

And do tell me where is Maxwell now?
 
POTUS has the authority to violate federal laws. US federal law says the US must maintain 12 aircraft carriers. The US had 10 aircraft carriers between 2012 and 2017. What do you say about that? The US is not a nation of laws. The US is a mafia society.

I think you've been watching too many cowboy western movies
 
Are you American, lived under American law?

Otherwise, I don't really want to know or care about how you think about US society.

He says he's Chinese. He hasn't said whether he lives in China or not.

I'm not surprised at his dislike of the USA. He's clearly a Chinese hyper-nationalist
 

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