Turkey Greece Relations and Maritime Disputes

[Foinikas]

Evangelical Mitsotakis sees a war soon. If there is a war, it will be of his making and his folly getting involved with the Zionists.

Maybe your bias blinds to you the point you can't read subtitles,but hearing the speech in Greek,let me assure you that he is talking about the possibility of a world war coming.

This is about the world in general. Not your personal obsession of Jews-Greeks coming to get you.

And you should abstain from repeatedly calling our PM an "evangelical". You're clearly doing it to bait me,but right here,openly in front of everyone,I'm calling you out on it and asking that you behave,as a Mod that you are supposed to be.

It's not like you'd love having people comment "Takfiri Erdogan",so...be a grown-up.

 

[Foinikas]

The difference between them is they put ther ego aside and solve the problem.

If your neighbor decides he owns half your house and you kick back,does that mean you have an "ego"?

 

[MMM-E]

He is trying to bait a war, Turkey does not need to fight it right now, but should respond proportionally if he escalates.

These Greeks cause trouble for us every 50 years, then they get slapped around and sit down, but they never learn anything from history

This time they fell for Israel's tricks.
They will start another war ... This time we must take back the islands and annex Western Thrace to Turkiye as well.


They are raised with so much hatred and animosity that they lose their sanity... their only concern is to harbor animosity towards Turks. Armenians are one, Greeks are two

 

[Foinikas]

sorry but this is reality

There can be no peace with such sick people; you should show them no mercy and punish them with death. Otherwise, one day they will bite you and you will catch the rabies microbe.

Therefore, there is no cure for a rabid dogs

And why don't you castigate your Azeri brethren first? They've been enjoying pretty good relations with these "sick people". Look at the amount of weaponry they buy from them. Look at the amount of oil that goes from Baku to Yahood. Through you.

 

[hyperman]

And you should abstain from repeatedly calling our PM an "evangelical".

He is Serving Israel.

God Blesses those who bless Israel right? lol, thats what the Evangelicals believe, and he legalized Gay Marriage like a Protestant. Orthodox People hate zionism and don't legalize Gay Marriage.

 

[hyperman]

And why don't you castigate your Azeri brethren first? They've been enjoying pretty good relations with these "sick people". Look at the amount of weaponry they buy from them. Look at the amount of oil that goes from Baku to Yahood. Through you.

Azerbaijan isn't putting a Jew Antenna next to Turkey to spy on Turkey and giving bases. Turks would rather they had no relation, but its not actively threatening Turkish interests.

 

[Foinikas]

They are raised with so much hatred and animosity that they lose their sanity... their only concern is to harbor animosity towards Turks. Armenians are one, Greeks are two

It's really sad to see you cut off from reality. I don't know what kind of problem you have,but you're cut off from reality. If you watch your own TV channels,media,your own politicians and your own nationalists of which there are quite a lot in Turkey,you'll see a mirror society,probably worse though when it comes to nationalism.

If you think Greeks are raised with "so much hatred and animosity they lose their sanity",you stand up and take a look at Turkey. A country which still celebrates the battle of Manzikert and the conquest of Constantinople every year,cannot blame Greeks or Armenians of being raised to hate. You literally celebrate the brutal conquest of our territories. You brag about it. You consider your ancestors' aggresive theft of homes, places of worship and culture as a big honor.

Yes,you are cut off from reality.
Because if Greeks were "raised with so much hatred and animosity that they lose their sanity".there wouldn't be such a big flow of Greeks visiting Turkey.
You wouldn't have Turks visiting the Dodecanese during summer. There wouldn't be football and basketball players and coaches joining each others' teams. Nor would there have been help during great disasters. There wouldn't have been artists collaborating together,songs borrowed from each other. Nor would there have been friendly relations on an individual level.

You and some others here have been drunk on AKPs words for years. You can't tell what's what. So-called "experts" on government-owned media and Ertugrul fanboys on tweeter have been feeding you with a twisted version of reality. In this reality you believe Yunaniler and Ermeniler hate you viciously,itching for wars,planning strategies.
While at the same time,you are simply deaf to your own politicians and "experts" calling for expansion,for revisionism,for redrawing maps and borders,for setting up a presence in Africa,in the Middle-East,in the Balkans,wherever possible.

You just live in the AKP version of reality.

 

[Foinikas]

He is Serving Israel.

God Blesses those who bless Israel right? lol, thats what the Evangelicals believe, and he legalized Gay Marriage like a Protestant. Orthodox People hate zionism and don't legalize Gay Marriage.

And I can go say Erdogan is a takfiri corrupt dictator. And we'll devolve in flame wars and rage posts. In front of everyone,before I start reporting again,I'm asking you to be an adult and stop acting like a trolling teenager.

 

[MMM-E]

Turkish soldiers never hurled harsh insults at Greeks during military parades, but Greek soldiers did.

Furthermore, the Turkish national anthem contains not a single derogatory word against Greeks, while the Greek national anthem contains numerous verses with hate speech, depictions of violence, and insults against Turks


In Türkiye, politicians don't exploit anti-Greek sentiment to win votes, whereas in Greece, the only tactic that can get them votes is to exploit anti-Turkish sentiment.

 

[Foinikas]

Turkish soldiers never hurled harsh insults at Greeks during military parades, but Greek soldiers did.

Furthermore, the Turkish national anthem contains not a single derogatory word against Greeks, while the Greek national anthem contains numerous verses with hate speech, depictions of violence, and insults against Turks


In Türkiye, politicians don't exploit anti-Greek sentiment to win votes, whereas in Greece, the only tactic that can get them votes is to exploit anti-Turkish sentiment.

I'm sure Turkish soldiers sing about the smurfs and lolipops falling from the sky.

Furthemore,the verses used in our national anthem contain no derogatory remarks against the Turks. You've used this argument in the past and I debunked it. The hymn to freedom by Solomos is a rather long poem and written during the Greek War of Independence. The verses used in the national anthem do not contain anything offensive to other countries.

You're also wrong about the last part:

In the last elections for example,not just Erdogan and Bahçeli,but Kilijdaroglu and other Turkish party leaders used warmonger rhetoric to get the popular vote.

 

[Eşbah]

It's really sad to see you cut off from reality. I don't know what kind of problem you have,but you're cut off from reality. If you watch your own TV channels,media,your own politicians and your own nationalists of which there are quite a lot in Turkey,you'll see a mirror society,probably worse though when it comes to nationalism.

If you think Greeks are raised with "so much hatred and animosity they lose their sanity",you stand up and take a look at Turkey. A country which still celebrates the battle of Manzikert and the conquest of Constantinople every year,cannot blame Greeks or Armenians of being raised to hate. You literally celebrate the brutal conquest of our territories. You brag about it. You consider your ancestors' aggresive theft of homes, places of worship and culture as a big honor.

Yes,you are cut off from reality.
Because if Greeks were "raised with so much hatred and animosity that they lose their sanity".there wouldn't be such a big flow of Greeks visiting Turkey.
You wouldn't have Turks visiting the Dodecanese during summer. There wouldn't be football and basketball players and coaches joining each others' teams. Nor would there have been help during great disasters. There wouldn't have been artists collaborating together,songs borrowed from each other. Nor would there have been friendly relations on an individual level.

You and some others here have been drunk on AKPs words for years. You can't tell what's what. So-called "experts" on government-owned media and Ertugrul fanboys on tweeter have been feeding you with a twisted version of reality. In this reality you believe Yunaniler and Ermeniler hate you viciously,itching for wars,planning strategies.
While at the same time,you are simply deaf to your own politicians and "experts" calling for expansion,for revisionism,for redrawing maps and borders,for setting up a presence in Africa,in the Middle-East,in the Balkans,wherever possible.

You just live in the AKP version of reality.

If you think that the AKP is strongly anti-Greece, you still haven't grasped the complexities of Turkey's political landscape. Historically, Erdoğan's various administrations have been the most accommodating towards Greece. You read correctly.

I understand that you might connect Erdoğan with conservatism, Islam, and negativity, but his secular rivals, particularly many Kemalists, have taken a much harsher stance towards Athens historically.

Once he's gone, many politicians and observers in Greece will be shocked to learn that he was indeed the lesser evil. Can't wait for that realisation to kick in.

 

[Foinikas]

I understand that you might connect Erdoğan with conservatism, Islam, and negativity, but his secular rivals, particularly many Kemalists, have taken a much harsher stance towards Athens historically.

Once he's gone, many politicians and observers in Greece will be shocked to learn that he was indeed the lesser evil. Can't wait for that realisation to kick in.

i don't doubt the Kemalists might be even more belligerent,but still Erdogan's governments have been adding tensions and problems in our relations. Whether it is for internal consumption and to appeal to the islamic/nationalist element or out of genuine ambition,Erdogan is still an evil,lesser or bigger.

 

[hyperman]

He is talking about attacking Turkey.

"And this is an advantage that we could never simply leave unused."

could never leave unused?

 

[Foinikas]

He is talking about attacking Turkey.

"And this is an advantage that we could never simply leave unused."

could never leave unused?

OMG you and Clash Report are spreading misinformation everywhere!

STOP spreading lies! If you can't understand greek,ignore the video!

He's talking about taking advantage of modernizing the Air Force!

He's talking about how important it is not to miss a good chance to upgrade the Air Force with good equipment.

OMG,you and your Clash Report buddies don't leave a chance to lie! The context of what he says is completely different from the tweet's title and what you try to make it look like.

This is the fourth time you're doing it.

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Isn't spread false info forbidden on the forum? hyperman's been taking trash posts from Crash Report and random turk accounts on twitter and lying his ass about the content.

It's the 4th time he's done it. It's misinformation and provocation.

First it was the video about Netanyahu talking random stuff,while hyperman stated "he literally said they will fight Turkey to the last Greek". Which was nowhere said on the video posted.

Second,it was a video of PM Mitsotakis and his Lebanese counterpart,with hyperman stating that supposedly the "Lebanese guy" was shook by Mitsotakis' speech,which was nowhere to be found in the video.

Yesterday,another video about Mitsotakis with a completely false tagline and commentary by hyperman.who said "he talks about going to war with Turkey",while in the video the PM was talking about a world war brewing.

Now,this video here. This is pathetic conduct. It's akin to what we here from Pakistanis about Indians doing online.

 

[GoatsMilk]

If you think that the AKP is strongly anti-Greece, you still haven't grasped the complexities of Turkey's political landscape. Historically, Erdoğan's various administrations have been the most accommodating towards Greece. You read correctly.

I understand that you might connect Erdoğan with conservatism, Islam, and negativity, but his secular rivals, particularly many Kemalists, have taken a much harsher stance towards Athens historically.

Once he's gone, many politicians and observers in Greece will be shocked to learn that he was indeed the lesser evil. Can't wait for that realisation to kick in.

Truthfully the most dangerous strain of Muslim against the white Christian world is the Turkish secularists. While Anatolia was being lost to Christians, the Turkish secularists came around and made Anatolia 98% Muslim.

Its for good reason western backed islamists like feto or isis always preach against Turkish secularism. The white man isnt a fool, he knows secular minded Turks are dangerous.