mulj
Trusted Member
You can call them terrorists all day and night but they showed more statehood potential and ability to govern in unfavorable conditions then many state actors in region.
Let that sink in.
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Let that sink in.
PakAl
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Falcon29
Elite Member
Who are you to say they are terrorists? Because they aren't allied with Iran? Or because they're Sunni? Leave that rhetoric aside it's better for you and just accept will of Syrian people.
Falcon29
Elite Member
Good to see, AoR should've never fought for this. And should have gone all in with Gaza. But if your moral compass deviates so much as to fight for this, it's no wonder you will become more like Israel and less likely to want to fight Israel.
mulj
Trusted Member
Apparently assad kept more innocent people or convicted ones on dubious claims then zionist entity ever, i read that rebels freed even some Hamas commander and Kasam brigades members, if that does not cause mind dissonance and rectification of positions towards assad regime in light of his declarative support to palestinian cause, i do not know what could do it.
Bilal
THINK TANK: CONSULTANT
Asad or we burn Syria. That was their slogan back in the early days.
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NEW: An American official said the United States believed Moscow couldn’t properly respond a Syrian rebel offensive because many Russian aircraft had been pulled out of Syria for operations in Ukraine.
Warplanes that Russia may have otherwise sent to reprise the brutal bombing campaigns were instead committed to Ukraine. Warships that Russia might have dispatched from the Black Sea were unable to transit into the Mediterranean because of a treaty that allows Turkey to close its straits to the navy of a nation at war.
And a once-fearsome Russian mercenary force, the Wagner group, had its Syrian operations dissolved last year after its leader, Yevgeny V. Prigozhin, staged a failed mutiny against Russian military chiefs.
— New York Times
Warplanes that Russia may have otherwise sent to reprise the brutal bombing campaigns were instead committed to Ukraine. Warships that Russia might have dispatched from the Black Sea were unable to transit into the Mediterranean because of a treaty that allows Turkey to close its straits to the navy of a nation at war.
And a once-fearsome Russian mercenary force, the Wagner group, had its Syrian operations dissolved last year after its leader, Yevgeny V. Prigozhin, staged a failed mutiny against Russian military chiefs.
— New York Times
Mehdipersian
Trusted Member
Tahrir al-Sham is the version of al-Qaeda in Syria. They changed their name, but I doubt that they have really changed.
GoatsMilk
Registered Member
Turkey has turned into a Middle Power.
On the same list as India, Japan, Germany, Italy.
Russia is a neoconservative nation used for cia endless wars. Russia did not use their military to unify Syria into a strong successful nation to defeat Israel.
Russia used their military to keep Syria divided for Israel.
Netanyahu: Israel has 'no problem' with Assad government
PM Netanyahu says Russia has pushed Iran away from Israeli border, Israel has 'no problem' with Assad regime.
Netanyahu: Israel has 'no problem' with Assad government
PM Netanyahu says Russia has pushed Iran away from Israeli border, Israel has 'no problem' with Assad regime.www.israelnationalnews.com
Russia is being used to be the mk ultra cia/fsb handler of Muslim nations that oppose Israel/America.
Russia did not use their military to destroy Israel to defend Palestinians.
(watch the above video before youtube lists it as hate speech and takes it down, again because the rabbi admits the Jews run the economy of Russia)
Russia is keeping Libya in a civil war and weak. Russia kept Syria in a civil war, weak. US starts the civil wars, Russia keeps it going to make Israel safe.
To show you the cia side hates the Turkish side being the leader in the Middle East, rather than Russia is Egypt. Egypt was run by Morsi and had a Western backed coup to keep Turkish and Islamic factions from controlling Egypt. El Sisi is a cia asset and a BRICS Russian agent. Same with the Saudis.
The US has used US vs Russia to destroy Syria, Libya, and Ukraine. Washington does not care about Ukraine, does not care about Syria, does not care about Libya, does not care about Egypt. Washington cares about Anglos ruling the globe with buddy Israel. To send war, crisis, chaos and conflict to weaken rivals and foes.
Would have been fantastic to see Turkish influence in not only Syria, also in Egypt and Libya.
Superpowers: US and China
Great Powers: Russia, UK and France
Turkey is now a Middle Power. Iran after the past year and half is definitely not on the list. Maybe Iran should develop nukes in 2025.
When it came to Turkiye it was obvious too see on countless occasions how the USA and Russia worked together against Turkiye. I could give countless examples. One example was when Trump threatened Turkiye not to intervene against their PKK project, when erdogan went in anyway the americans made sure to hand over the regions to Russia instead of a NATO ally Turkiye.
Over the 13 years of the conflict the Turkish army wanted to intervene, both the USA and Russia made sure to co-operate with each other concerning Turkiye.
Its a shame because Turkiye with Morsi and the rebels in Syria could have brought both nations under the Turkish wing. Imagine all 3 nations united, with Syria and Egypt being trained and armed by the Turkish military. But what happened? They instigated a coup against Morsi in egypt, a coup that the iranians also supported. In syria the rebels were turned on by everyone except for Turkiye.
Had morsi not been overthen and had the rebels cause not been betrayed by everyone except Turkiye, you have would have seen a military alliance between all 3 nations. That sort of alliance could have put an end to american, european, russian and isreali games in the region. Had egypt still had morsi, the Turks could have made a clean sweep in Libya keeping it united and out of the hands of the french or the russians.
My only hope is the syrians don't betray Turkiye, the nation suffered alot over the conflict and risked all out war against both the USA and Russia on multiple occasions over her support of the syrian people.
UKBengali
Elite Member
This is nonsense.
Russia has just committed maybe 1/3rd of its airforce to Ukraine as Ukraine barely has an airforce.
After the intial RuAF heavy bombing runs on the rebels, the Russians gave up as the SAA had no fight in it at all.
Sending 2-3 more squadrons of SU-34/35s to Syria would not have been an issue to enable carpet bombing of large formations but why bother when SAA does not want to fight on the ground?
hyperman
INT'L MOD
Your own govt have moved on and is now in talks with HTS, your own govt news channels are no longer calling them takfiris but "Syrian Opposition" and that they hope to establish "constructive ties", and all this stuff about "we urged assad to negotiate"(Abbas Araghchi: Iran has consistently advised Assad to engage with opposition groups and seek political and peaceful solutions to resolve conflicts.) now they are saying we were in syria to fight ISIS and protect shrines and the issue of the opposition was between Assad and the Opposition. You guys didn't get the new talking points/software update yet or something? lol
Tamerlane
Trusted Member
I appreciate the point of view of the pro-Assad crowd. They think that this is a blow to the anti-Zionist resistance. They look at this from the strategic point of view and it may be true that the resistance may have been weakened.
The other way to look at the issue is from the humanitarian point of view. There are millions of Syrians living as refugees and thousands rotting in jails. Most people are happy to have gotten rid of Assad.
I think the wellbeing of the people of Syria comes before anything else. Hopefully, things will settle down, although it is to be expected that the Anglo-Zionists will try to create as much mischief as they can.
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