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[Indos]

Just watch Israeli analist in AJ English. Actually Israel feel more comfortable with Bashar weak regime under support of Iran which economy is in trouble situation.

The reason Israel grab more land in Goland Heigh because they see current situation is more dangerous for them so precation action is needed to make better defensive line for Israel.

Israel wants divided Syria forever, they dont anticipate rebel can defeat the Bashar regime.

Unpopular Syria regime with civil war inside it is something very comfortable for Israel

 

[mulj]

They only have a presence there, the area Including the Golan is Syrian territory under international law

The Israeli are worried that under a new Syrian sovereign state, they can turn to the U.N and even go to the U.N security council and request a demand for Israel to relinquish all control of the Golan back to the sovereign state of Syria

And under international law Syria would be completely justified

So Israel is trying to cut that off, BUT they don't have any significant presence in these new areas, they have just pushed through with tanks and a few soldier's, Israel is still in the Golan

And they want to RENEGOTIATE the old agreement with assad, over control of the Golan


The new Syria must ABSOLUTELY NOT DO THIS,


A legitimate government must be set up in Damascus, that government first action must not be attack Israel (that will come later for the entire region) then it must use its new status to hammer Israeli occupation of sovereign Syrian territory in everywhere it can and refuse any negotiations



In the meantime it's vital turkey and the Arabs help Syria safeguard it's territory from strikes

that would be sane strategy and would work if new goverement wont be stabbed in back. they have few issues to solve before entering in that stage.

 

[hussain0216]

Just watch Israeli analist in AJ English. Actually Israel feel more comfortable with Bashar weak regime under support of Iran which economy is in trouble situation.

The reason Israel grab more land in Goland Heigh because they see current situation is more dangerous for them so precation action is needed to make better defensive line for Israel.

Israel DOESN'T have any legal standing in the Golan

It was only the agreement with Assad that kept them there, so without Assad they need a new agreement with the new Syria
Or they at a minimum want a horde of fighters coming their way so they can have a excuse to militarize further in the area

This is why Syrians are not going after this Israeli incursion and concentrating on the Kurds and cementing power, and Israeli want to force a NEW AGREEMENT over the Golan and it's must not be allowed to happen




Also it's vital hezbolllah be supported, because without a direct Iran link they will need to be ready because Israel may restart the conflict because can hit Hezbollah harder

 

[Indos]

Israel DOESN'T have any legal standing in the Golan

It was only the agreement with Assad that kept them there, so without Assad they need a new agreement with the new Syria
Or they at a minimum want a horde of fighters coming their way so they can have a excuse to militarize further in the area

This is why Syrians are not going after this Israeli incursion and concentrating on the Kurds and cementing power, and Israeli want to force a NEW AGREEMENT over the Golan and it's must not be allowed to happen




Also it's vital hezbolllah be supported, because without a direct Iran link they will need to be ready because Israel may restart the conflict because can hit Hezbollah harder

I dont like supporting force like Hisbullah whose densely populated strong hold can be massacred again by Israel in any war between them. Vulnerable I would say.

 

[Indos]

Syria should be always in defensive mode so there will be a strong legitimation from international community if Muslim nations help them if Israel attack or even try to invade

 

[Indos]

Iran can focus on Hisbullah while Turkiye, Arabs can focus on Syria. Defending both.

But please dont use them as proxy anymore to hit Israel. We should focus on defense only, defending for possible attack.

Other Muslim nations can help if invited by legitimate Syria gov under OIC meeting

 

[Eşbah]

This is quickly becoming the narrative now, that Russia and Iran just said "meh", and chose not to support #Assad in his time of need because they didn't see sufficient value in it.

I personally very much disagree with this.

Iran has invested significantly in Syria, and was looking to leverage multiple economic projects across Syria to recoup some of its "investments". At the time of Assad's fall, it was still sending tankers loaded with crude oil, who had to turn back once the regime fell. It still had militias inside Sayyeda Zeinab. Hezbollah sent troops to Homs and Qusayr.

Russia was still striking opposition fighters, in the hours that preceded the fall. There are claims that some Russian soldiers are stranded because of how fast things went. For Russia this is potentially a massive loss, that puts into question how they will continue to project influence outside of their immediate vicinity, including in Africa, the Mediterranean and to a lesser extent Libya. The Russian "life insurance for dictators" has shown itself to be empty.

I think there is a much simpler explanation: Given how fast things went (less than two weeks in a conflict that last more than 10 years!), Russia and Iran were completely stunned, and unable to decide and quickly sent enough reinforcements. The regime was hollowed out by its own corruption, and the fallout of continued economic crises (including in Lebanon). Reconciled rebels switched side. Former rebel groups re-emerged. The whole thing was a dried out tree branch waiting to catch fire.

Russia and Iran (particularly Iran) seemed to have rested their hopes on diplomacy (I know, quite unusual, but that's what they had). They hoped contacts through the Astana format would help stop or delay the offensive. That the diplomatic clock would stop the military clock. It didn't, and there you are.

But to say they just looked at Assad and said "no thank you" - I don't believe it.

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Don't believe Russo-Persian fairy-tales about abandoning Assad. They tried to keep him in power but still lost.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Israel economy can be destroyed if they have war with current Syria with backing of Turkiye, Saudi ( rich countries ), and other Muslim countries

I believe even Taliban will send troops there lol

Syria is no longer a sovereign country that is capable of doing anything anymore. The things that make it sovereign, are not there. Syria is now more like Libya than anything else. No one is making war with Israel.

You have not being paying attention. Saudis have been providing a landbridge to Israel to bypass the blockade, they are not going to do anything that is not in the interests of Israel.

 

[UKBengali]

Syria is no longer a sovereign country that is capable of doing anything anymore. The things that make it sovereign, are not there. Syria is now more like Libya than anything else. No one is making war with Israel.

You have not being paying attention. Saudis have been providing a landbridge to Israel to bypass the blockade, they are not going to do anything that is not in the interests of Israel.

Some Muslims are totally ignorant about ME politics. They think the Arabs and Turkey are sovereign countries when in fact they are Zio-US vassals.

They do not realise that KSA/Turkey are Zio-US lackeys and do their bidding.

Only reason that KSA did not provide its airspace to Zio-US to attack Iran was that it did not want its oil and gas facilities deatroyed by Iran.

 

[Indos]

HTS is basically holding the power

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[ResurgentIran2]

Those capabilities were junk value for while and do not know what the fuss abut it. During the civil war people were pissed how jews have free reign above syrian skies, so what particularra has changed?
Give them space both syrians and turks to do things properla.

The change is that Israel has invaded and taken and occupying more Syrian land. As I said, 20 km away from Damascus.

But we'll see what unfolds. Im sceptical Israel will give that back easily.
If not, we'll see if the Syrian Army and militias mounts a counter, if it does not resolve diplomatically.

Btw can anyone explain why the Syrian army abandoned their positions? This is very strange. Its not like they relocated to fight rebels, the SAA surrendered full stop. But for the army to abandon their position and leave Syria wide open for that Zionist predator next door?
And for Assad to flee Syria without even addressing his people?
As I said, what a coward. Can't believe Iran wasted precious resources for that waste of a human.

 

[hyperman]

Btw can anyone explain why the Syrian army abandoned their positions? This is very strange. Its not like they relocated to fight rebels, the SAA surrendered full stop. But for the army to abandon their position and leave Syria wide open for that Zionist predator next door?

Assad called all units everywhere in the country to come back to Damascus and defend him, they withdrew from everywhere and came back to Damascus but rebels advance kept going, it didn't help. There was going to be a big battle in Damascus, but at that point the Syrian military command decided to ignore Assad and negotiate a surrender of the city itself with the rebels. Assad after they stopped listening to him, got on a plane or helicopter and ran to Latakia, which was still held by the SAA at the time, and got a plane ride from the Russians to Moscow.

 

[Unknowntruth]

Donald Trump already said on TV the entity is "too small".

Trump will bark orders at Erdogan and the "Sultan" will do as he is told.

It is a complete failure to plan ahead to prevent this. Once Israel occupies something, they will never give it back.

 

[Unknowntruth]

They only have a presence there, the area Including the Golan is Syrian territory under international law

The Israeli are worried that under a new Syrian sovereign state, they can turn to the U.N and even go to the U.N security council and request a demand for Israel to relinquish all control of the Golan back to the sovereign state of Syria

And under international law Syria would be completely justified

So Israel is trying to cut that off, BUT they don't have any significant presence in these new areas, they have just pushed through with tanks and a few soldier's, Israel is still in the Golan

And they want to RENEGOTIATE the old agreement with assad, over control of the Golan


The new Syria must ABSOLUTELY NOT DO THIS,


A legitimate government must be set up in Damascus, that government first action must not be attack Israel (that will come later for the entire region) then it must use its new status to hammer Israeli occupation of sovereign Syrian territory in everywhere it can and refuse any negotiations



In the meantime it's vital turkey and the Arabs help Syria safeguard it's territory from strikes

I do not like this one bit because when Israel occupies something, they will never hand it back. international law is garbage because we can clearly see that it never applies to Israel.

 

[GoatsMilk]

This is quickly becoming the narrative now, that Russia and Iran just said "meh", and chose not to support #Assad in his time of need because they didn't see sufficient value in it.

I personally very much disagree with this.

Iran has invested significantly in Syria, and was looking to leverage multiple economic projects across Syria to recoup some of its "investments". At the time of Assad's fall, it was still sending tankers loaded with crude oil, who had to turn back once the regime fell. It still had militias inside Sayyeda Zeinab. Hezbollah sent troops to Homs and Qusayr.

Russia was still striking opposition fighters, in the hours that preceded the fall. There are claims that some Russian soldiers are stranded because of how fast things went. For Russia this is potentially a massive loss, that puts into question how they will continue to project influence outside of their immediate vicinity, including in Africa, the Mediterranean and to a lesser extent Libya. The Russian "life insurance for dictators" has shown itself to be empty.

I think there is a much simpler explanation: Given how fast things went (less than two weeks in a conflict that last more than 10 years!), Russia and Iran were completely stunned, and unable to decide and quickly sent enough reinforcements. The regime was hollowed out by its own corruption, and the fallout of continued economic crises (including in Lebanon). Reconciled rebels switched side. Former rebel groups re-emerged. The whole thing was a dried out tree branch waiting to catch fire.

Russia and Iran (particularly Iran) seemed to have rested their hopes on diplomacy (I know, quite unusual, but that's what they had). They hoped contacts through the Astana format would help stop or delay the offensive. That the diplomatic clock would stop the military clock. It didn't, and there you are.

But to say they just looked at Assad and said "no thank you" - I don't believe it.

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Don't believe Russo-Persian fairy-tales about abandoning Assad. They tried to keep him in power but still lost.

Its because its a massive and humiliating defeat for both of them. How are they going to parade as some kind of power when a rag tag band of rebels bent them over so easily and quickly. What was it a week?