Turkey to build bomb shelters across the country

[PK781]

The main concern i have is:

-Turkiye having too many domestic double-agents working for Mossad
-Country having too many foreigners(western, or indian) that are spies pretending tourists or even migrants settled......like how we saw in Iran.
-Seculars/stupids having sympathy for Europe/West/Israel....there are many wannabe europeans in Turkiye

these can side with Israel/West in their 'greater israel plan' which includes many ME countries and they would need to "neutralise" Turkiye in order for that plan to be realized.... there are also Hadiths of the Holy Prophet(PBUH) indicating the fall of istanbul which i guess remains a big concern for the Muslims in general.

The eventual war/destruction of the ME (arabs) was foretold by RasoolAllah(PBUH) and it may unfortunately also include Turkiye.....could this shelter building be due to that concern by their Govt ??

 

[Erlik]

If Israel uses nuclear weapons against Turkey, NATO will not help Turkey, and most NATO countries will even secretly help Israel. Do you really think NATO is more important to the United States than Israel? Do you really think other NATO countries will go to war with Israel and the United States over Turkey?

What I wrote does not only cover a possible attack from Israel. I meant it as a general nuclear shelter. In other words, I meant it as the moment when the world goes to hell.

Anyway, the cities that Israel can reach are already included in what I said. It feels like you’re not understanding what you read.

 

[mythbuster]

What I wrote does not only cover a possible attack from Israel. I meant it as a general nuclear shelter. In other words, I meant it as the moment when the world goes to hell.

Anyway, the cities that Israel can reach are already included in what I said. It feels like you’re not understanding what you read.

Shelters provide no shelter in an all-out nuclear war.....there was shelter craze in America , Russia and Europe in 50s and 60s ...that phase is over , no more shelter nonsense in those countries.,.. shelters provide limited protection against non nuclear attacks.....it's a retrogressive thinking , wonder why a pragmatic country like turkey is going for it

 

[Erlik]

The main concern i have is:

-Turkiye having too many domestic double-agents working for Mossad
-Country having too many foreigners(western, or indian) that are spies pretending tourists or even migrants settled......like how we saw in Iran.
-Seculars/stupids having sympathy for Europe/West/Israel....there are many wannabe europeans in Turkiye

these can side with Israel/West in their 'greater israel plan' which includes many ME countries and they would need to "neutralise" Turkiye in order for that plan to be realized.... there are also Hadiths of the Holy Prophet(PBUH) indicating the fall of istanbul which i guess remains a big concern for the Muslims in general.

The eventual war/destruction of the ME (arabs) was foretold by RasoolAllah(PBUH) and it may unfortunately also include Turkiye.....could this shelter building be due to that concern by their Govt ??

Sorry, but with your very inaccurate information you’ve made very inaccurate assumptions.

Türkiye is a country that represents both East and West. In times of war, people with different views inside our country come together. We have seen this many times, and we still do. The construction of shelters has been something necessary for a long time, and that’s why it has started. It’s not just about a possible attack from Israel. The world is gradually going downhill.

Even though the majority of Türkiye’s population is Muslim or even if it weren’t we are at the very center of many threat perceptions. Attacking a country like Türkiye is harder than attacking Pakistan. Sorry, but that’s the truth, and it’s only getting harder because of our developing defense industry. And we are not like a country such as Iran. What is planned is what gets done things are carried out based on planning, not on a saying from centuries ago whose origin isn’t even clear.

 

[Erlik]

Shelters provide no shelter in an all-out nuclear war.....there was shelter craze in America , Russia and Europe in 50s and 60s ...that phase is over , no more shelter nonsense in those countries.,.. shelters provide limited protection against non nuclear attacks.....it's a retrogressive thinking , wonder why a pragmatic country like turkey is going for it

As I said, I find it absurd, too. I want to think of it as a nuclear shelter, but not all of them can be like that. It's certainly possible, at least in some places. But it certainly can't be all of them, that's for sure. And building one in every province seems truly absurd.

 

[Master Chief]

Turkey would be:

A. Pulverized by a majority NATO/EE countries and torn apart.
B. Undergo a forced regime change.
C. Heavy sanctions,war AND regime change.

Turks think their strategic location and Armed Forces are important to NATO. But once they get over certain lines,they become more of a burden that needs to be dealt with.

If Turks become a serious threat for Israel or a hindrance to NATO plans in the region,they will take action.

Respectfully disagree.

The cost of war against Turkiye would be too high for European countries, as USA would not get involved in this current era we find ourselves in.

UK, France, Germany would baulk at the thought of a war against a nation that is probably at least as strong, on paper, as Russia. Poland, which in my opinion is one of the few European nations that has the stomach for a drawn out protracted war, is too busy guarding against Russia.

As for regime change, they've been trying for 20 years.

 

[Foinikas]

Respectfully disagree.

The cost of war against Turkiye would be too high for European countries, as USA would not get involved in this current era we find ourselves in.

UK, France, Germany would baulk at the thought of a war against a nation that is probably at least as strong, on paper, as Russia. Poland, which in my opinion is one of the few European nations that has the stomach for a drawn out protracted war, is too busy guarding against Russia.

As for regime change, they've been trying for 20 years.

But what if USA does get involved too?

 

[Master Chief]

But what if USA does get involved too?

In that hypothetical scenario, if USA was involved with no caveats or restrictions, then NATO wins.

The same would be true in Ukraine against Russia. USA is the Trump card, forgive the tasteless pun.

But you and I both know USA is a different nation now compared to what it was hardly a year back. They have not got the stomach for a massive war where their own existence is not actually at stake.

 

[Foinikas]

USA is the Trump card, forgive the tasteless pun.

I liked that

 

[Anatolia]

-Turkiye having too many domestic double-agents working for Mossad
-Country having too many foreigners(western, or indian) that are spies pretending tourists or even migrants settled.

That could be said for every single country in the world, that has a massive population. We see it in Pakistan too, with the terrorism funded by outsiders.
But Turkiye can play that game too, there're millions of ethnic Turks all over the world , I am talking from Romania to Siberia. Not een going to mention the recent migrations to Germany and so on.

.like how we saw in Iran.

Iran is different. there's legit a minority of them that want a return of Kings that openly supports Israel.
We really don't have such traitors in our country. and ones we do can be spotted quite easily lol.

Seculars/stupids having sympathy for Europe/West/Israel....there are many wannabe europeans in Turkiye

Not sure what secular is in Turkiye, we just have nationalism. Not sure what secularism is for you, but our kind won't support enemies. Turks are very united in that regard.
It's pretty normal for some families to support joining EU or some that want to remain out, some conservative or liberal. Is that any different anywhere else ?

these can side with Israel/West in their 'greater israel plan' which includes many ME countries and they would need to "neutralise" Turkiye in order for that plan to be realized.

Why would any Turk care for Israel. I am talking about Turkish people here .. If you want to see who supports greater Israel you need to look no further than Syrians, Saudis, Emiratis and so on.

there are also Hadiths of the Holy Prophet(PBUH) indicating the fall of istanbul which i guess remains a big concern for the Muslims in general.

Was this before or after failing to defeat the Byzantine Empire?

could this shelter building be due to that concern by their Govt ??

Better safe than sorry. It would give good morale boost knowing there's that option if needed.

UK, France, Germany would baulk at the thought of a war against a nation that is probably at least as strong, on paper, as Russia. Poland

Yeah, it's not happening. There's never being no Europeans that die for Israel. Europeans do not care what happen in Middle East they just want to live their life, work and provide for family and watch football. The Idea that some think they'd stop all that if Israel demands it is funny and don't know Europeans at all.
In any war scenario with Turkiye versus Israel, Israel is alone.

European nations that has the stomach for a drawn out protracted war, is too busy guarding against Russia.

Ukrainians are Europeans, and nothing is done for them.. so think what they'd do for Israelis (which is nothing)

 

[BigMela2onin]

No, NATO would fracture, but Turkey wouldn't be dropped.

Now more than ever, there are NATO nations questioning the strategic relevance of Israel to Europe and the Americas. In other words, they're finding that Israel really doesn't offer much value for what the Europeans are having to spend on its defense and economy.

Jews own the US and the US owns Europe. In the event of the west abandoning their colony, NATO will no longer be an issue anyways.

 

[MMM-E]

The construction of a total of 83,500 shelters across 81 provinces, to be used in the event of war, disasters, and emergencies throughout Turkiye, will be completed in the coming months.