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Even 900 km SUPER SIMSEK jet powered Drones can hunt Hellenic Air Force AEWCs

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KAL-EL​

You said that , Who has a better Air Force? Are Greek and Turkish Air Forces relatively even?

Real detailed military analyses from me for same ignorant fanboys


F-16 Fighter Jets
Greek F-16V is nothing special to compare with the Turkish F-16s which have link-16 and same 120 km AIM-120C7 air to air Missile easly to match with Greek F-16Vs in BVR combat

thanks to 4 Boeing E7-T AEWCs

even as of 2026 , TURAF has more F-16s ( 193 F-16s ) with this network centric warfare capability than HAF

soon , Turkish F-16s will get 200km GOKHAN-GOKBORA ramjet powered air to air missiles .. but Greek F-16V always carry 120 km AIM-120C7

as of 2026

• TURAF ( 193 F-16s with network centric warfare capability )
• HAF ( 50 + 38 F-16s with network centric warfare capability )

24 RAFALEs can not change balance of power .. even Pakistan turned Indian RAFALEs into burnt birds in BVR combat

Real game changer Weapons are KIZILELMA and ANKA-3 unmanned stealth Fighter Jets which have first look-first fire capability against non-stealth RAFALE and F-16V

KIZILELMA and ANKA-3 to be delivered to the Turkish Air Force in 2026-2027
to carry 185+ km GOKBORA ramjet powered air to air missiles in internal weapon bays




Hellenic Air Force doent have lacks electronic warfare capabilities

on the other hand , TURAF has its own KORAL-200 mobile Radar Electronic Warfare Systems

also 4 ASOJ-23A stand off jammer Aircraft
A technology that would reduce the effectiveness of the RAFAEL , F-16V or J-10C Radar, thus enabling them to hunt them down.

this technology is belong to only USA , Turkiye , China and Russia currently

4 ASOJ-23A stand off jammer Aircraft between 2026 and 2028



Greece lacks hypersonic - supersonic Missile strike capability

Greece lacks land based long range Cruise Missile capability
Greece lacks even long range kamikaze Drone capability

on the other hand , Turkiye has its own defense Industry to produce hundreds of them to hit all Air Defense Systems in Grecee-Greek Islands within a day


currently ready for a war
150 km J600T
280 km BORA
400+ km ATMACA-UM
500+ km TAYFUN Block1/2

also , 1000 km GEZGIN land based Cruise Missile on the way

also , 500+ km 300-ER air launched supersonic Ballistic Missile with TV camera seeker

1000-2000 km SIVRISINEK , MIZRAK , KUZGUN , SUPER SIMSEK and K-2 long rage kamikaze Drones


also 1500-2000 km TAYFUN Block-4 and CENK hypersonic Ballistic Missiles on the way Turkiye has the 2nd strongest missile fire power in NATO after USA



Greece is a buyer Country with limited numbers ( PATRIOT , BARAK-MX and DAVID's SLING )

They wouldn't even have enough numbers to stop 2000 Turkish kamikaze Drones

Turkiye creates its own STEEL DOME Air Defense Umbrella for $24 billion to cover whole Turkiye

KORKUT
SUNGUR
GURZ
GOKDEMIR
HISAR-A
HISAR-O
SIPER-A
SIPER 1/2/3/4


Greece gets 20 F-35A until 2030

Turkiye gets 60 new Fighter Jets until 2030 .. ( maybe 60+40 )
-- 20 Eurofighter T-4 ..... ( maybe also 12 Eurofighter T-3A from Qatar )
-- 40 KAAN Block10/20

also , Turkiye plans to sell its S-400s to some countries and rejoin the F-35 program; work on this is ongoing



We dont need to hunt Greek Pilots , they are killing themselves with stupid maneuvers during dogfights with the Turkish F-16 Pilots

3 Greek Pilots crashed into the sea and died during dogfights

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Such countries like Greece has no future
They may think they have a slight advantage for a few years through buying things off others, but ultimately they will fall far behind Turkiye, and they will have neither the money nor the technology to match with Turkiye

 

[Foinikas]

btw Turkiye hosts B-61 thermonuclear Bombs against non NATO Countries like Russia , India , Iran , etc

Hosts doesn't mean can use. It's not your call or ability to launch them.

 

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To send 50-100 SUPER SIMSEK jet powered Drones .. and GAME OVER



-- We can use SUPER SIMSEK to mimic Fighter Jets forcing enemy SAM batteries to activate their Radars, fire and deplete their expensive missile stockpiles

-- We can use SUPER SIMSEK to employ electronic jamming to reduce the effectiveness of Air Defense Radars

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The technical specifications of the SUPER SIMSEK specifically its turbojet engine, high speed and integration of an optical Camera make the interception of an AWACS or Transport Aircrfat a highly realistic military scenario

High Speed (Mach 0.85+) : Driven by a turbojet engine, the SUPER SIMSEK can travel at speeds approaching 1,000 km/h

TV Camera Terminal Guidance : The onboard TV camera / optical sensor provides the operator with real-time visual tracking

A very deadly weapon and in service


several variants can act as active electronic warfare jammers and radar decoys to make itself look like 50-100 of F-16s

The Greek Fighter Jets will see SUPER SIMSEK drones as a huge squadron of F-16s approaching and panicking to fire all their missiles


Those who think their own country is something special just because the USA didn't give Türkiye 100 F-35A Fighter Jets

Everyone will know their place; we will crumple up and discard your worthless countries like pieces of paper

 

[Foinikas]

Turkiye creates its own STEEL DOME Air Defense Umbrella for $24 billion to cover whole Turkiye

KORKUT
SUNGUR
GURZ
GOKDEMIR
HISAR-A
HISAR-O
SIPER-A
SIPER 1/2/3/4

Interestingly,your "Steel Dome" didn't help you against Iranian missiles a few months ago,
didn't help you protect Qatar against Iranian missiles and drones either.

We dont need to hunt Greek Pilots , they are killing themselves with stupid maneuvers during dogfights with the Turkish F-16 Pilots

3 Greek Pilots crashed into the sea and died during dogfights

Cheap propaganda is for people without strong arguments. Let me remind you


@KAL-EL here's the info I should have posted last night

 

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There have been no incidents where Turkish F-16 pilots made foolish maneuvers and crashed into the sea during dogfight

just technical malfunction in 1995. ( a fuel pump failure ) and Turkish Pilot survived


I didn't mention the 3 other Greek Pilots that fell due to other malfunctions and crashed into the sea .. and all 3 Greek Pilots survived

on the other hand , 3 Greek Pilots crashed into the sea and died while maneuvering during doghfights with the Turkish F-16s


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1992 (Lt. Nikolaos Sialmas) : The investigation indicated the crash happened because the Greek pilot was unable to pull out of a steep dive in time

2006 (Flt. Lt. Konstantinos Iliakis): Greek Pilot crashed into the Turkish F-16 and Greek Pilot died .. Turkish Pilot survived

2018 (Flt. Lt. Georgios Baltadoros): A Greek Mirage 2000-5 crashed near Skyros island during an interception mission .. Greek Pilot died



We dont need to hunt Greek Pilots , they are killing themselves with stupid maneuvers during dogfights with the Turkish F-16 Pilots

 

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American PATRIOT and THAAD didn't protect Qatar either ?

or Did Turkiye deploy SIPER AD System to Qatar and we didn't know about it ?

SIPER1/2 = to intercept Fighter Jets ( in service )
SIPER-A and SIPER-4 = under development to intercept Ballistic Missiles


This lunatic Greek to make such ridiculous comments supposedly doing anti-Turkiye propaganda.

 

[Foinikas]

or Did Turkiye deploy SIPER AD System to Qatar and we didn't know about it ?

You didn't even shoot a single drone down in Qatar.

 

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Not even a single Drone hit Turkish Forces in Qatar

Turkiye sold TOLGA Air Defense Systems to Qatar to intercept Drones
and deliveries will start soon

Qatar has its own Air Defense Systems including NASAMS , PATRIOT , THAAD

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A citizen of a Country that can't produce a single air defense missile comes here and trolling

better worry about your Country how to stop great Turkish Missile fire power in a war

because Greece will need THAAD or ARROW-3 to intercept Turkish hypersonic MRBMs TAYFUN Block4 and CENK

 

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