hyperman
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Its kind of Crazy this many have died, Putin still hasn't called a draft but other than that Russia is fighting with all its strength.
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Its kind of Crazy this many have died, Putin still hasn't called a draft but other than that Russia is fighting with all its strength.
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There are still people in Europe and the Middle East who believe that Russia is holding back.
hyperman
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There are still people in Europe and the Middle East who believe that Russia is holding back.
Yeah outside of Nuclear weapons, they are using everything they have. The only thing I guess you could say is that they haven't gone after the people funding and sending weapons to Ukraine or gone after people in a Bloc alignment sort of way, like helping Iran/Houthis to Spite the US or something like that. Other than that, every asset they have, they are using.
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Imagine the stranglehold that Russian Jewish billionaires have over the regime in Moscow, knowing that substantial Russian support for Iran, Hizbies and the Houthis would force the entire West to retreat in Ukraine in order to preserve their Jewish protectorate in the Middle East.
The Russian leadership doesn't give a **** about their own people.
So sad actually.
hyperman
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Russians don't fully commit, thats their problem. They still think there is some sort of benefit that get from Israel or something. The West is literally trying to make Russia collapse like Yugoslavia, and they keep reserving hope that somehow it will go back to normal. If I was the Russians, I would be doing everything to expand other front, to make the West divide its resources so that it couldn't commit to putting everything in Ukraine.
Instead they are doing BS like withholding Air Defense and planes from Iran, or not transferring P-800s to Yemen or even in South America with Venezuela cooperation. They backed the US line of no enrichment for Iran, trying to get Iran to "compromise" or whatver.
hyperman
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Ibrahim Kalin was there the intelligence chief of Turkey
Her Zaman ve Her Yerde
Ibrahim Kalin is everwhere. lol
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But Erdogan was also full of surprises in meetings. He suddenly asked whether Stoltenberg liked corn, since it was corn season. The Norwegian said he did.
“A moment later, they brought in a huge platter of golden corncobs, which we grabbed with our bare hands. There were maybe eight to ten of us in the room, and everyone was munching away. Lovely roasted chestnuts also came,” Stoltenberg writes.
“'The protocol department hates this,' Erdogan said, grabbing another flask. 'Do you know the difference between the Taliban and the protocol department?' he asked, looking at me expectantly, as corn kernels and salt sprinkled onto the floor.
I shook my head. Erdogan smiled. 'It is possible to negotiate with the Taliban.'”
During the conversation, Stoltenberg writes that Erdogan said Turkey had every right under international law to be in Syria, at least as much as the US, UK and other Nato countries that had deployed troops to Syria to fight the Islamic State (IS) group.
Stoltenberg warned Erdogan not to hit civilians. Erdogan replied: “We kill terrorists. You are the ones hitting civilians when you bomb ISIS in Raqqa and Mosul. No one objects to that.” The Norwegian confesses that "again, Erdogan had a point".
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“A moment later, they brought in a huge platter of golden corncobs, which we grabbed with our bare hands. There were maybe eight to ten of us in the room, and everyone was munching away. Lovely roasted chestnuts also came,” Stoltenberg writes.
“'The protocol department hates this,' Erdogan said, grabbing another flask. 'Do you know the difference between the Taliban and the protocol department?' he asked, looking at me expectantly, as corn kernels and salt sprinkled onto the floor.
I shook my head. Erdogan smiled. 'It is possible to negotiate with the Taliban.'”
During the conversation, Stoltenberg writes that Erdogan said Turkey had every right under international law to be in Syria, at least as much as the US, UK and other Nato countries that had deployed troops to Syria to fight the Islamic State (IS) group.
Stoltenberg warned Erdogan not to hit civilians. Erdogan replied: “We kill terrorists. You are the ones hitting civilians when you bomb ISIS in Raqqa and Mosul. No one objects to that.” The Norwegian confesses that "again, Erdogan had a point".
Corn, canapes and shouting matches: How Erdogan and Stoltenberg’s bromance saved Nato
Former Nato chief Jens Stoltenberg has written a memoir chronicling disputes over Syria, Sweden and Russia
www.middleeasteye.net
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Regarding the downing of a Russian jet in 2015:
“But the truth is that there was deep disagreement within the alliance,” he writes.
“Turkey received support from the Eastern European countries in its demand that Nato should unconditionally support the Turkish actions, and they believed that the border violation should be followed up with the deployment of more air defenses, more aircraft and more batteries of Patriot missiles along the border with Syria.”
But the Norwegian notes that France and Italy were opposed to explicitly supporting Turkey.
“The Germans were not against support, but at the same time wanted to be more nuanced. They argued that it was one thing to condemn the border violation, quite another to justify a shooting down because of a violation that lasted 17 seconds.”
In response, Russia deployed S-400 air defence systems to Syria and sent its flagship, Moskva, to the Syrian coast.
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“But the truth is that there was deep disagreement within the alliance,” he writes.
“Turkey received support from the Eastern European countries in its demand that Nato should unconditionally support the Turkish actions, and they believed that the border violation should be followed up with the deployment of more air defenses, more aircraft and more batteries of Patriot missiles along the border with Syria.”
But the Norwegian notes that France and Italy were opposed to explicitly supporting Turkey.
“The Germans were not against support, but at the same time wanted to be more nuanced. They argued that it was one thing to condemn the border violation, quite another to justify a shooting down because of a violation that lasted 17 seconds.”
In response, Russia deployed S-400 air defence systems to Syria and sent its flagship, Moskva, to the Syrian coast.
Corn, canapes and shouting matches: How Erdogan and Stoltenberg’s bromance saved Nato
Former Nato chief Jens Stoltenberg has written a memoir chronicling disputes over Syria, Sweden and Russia
www.middleeasteye.net
Foinikas
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I was watching videos about the war these days,Russian leadership is so corrupt and selfish,unfortunately they've gone back to Stalin-era mentality. Imagine,they shot down the aircraft carrying Prigozhin just to get him,not caring about the pilots or anyone else on it. They sent people in mass attacks,half-equipped,other times well-equipped but with bad tactics,other times just "shut up and carry on with the war". Even people supporting Russia are becoming disillusioned with Putin's stubborn and selfish approach the last few years.
hyperman
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r3alist
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Unfortunately it literally looks like that
Same for Ukraine
At this stage why, what's the point
GoatsMilk
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Regarding the downing of a Russian jet in 2015:
“But the truth is that there was deep disagreement within the alliance,” he writes.
“Turkey received support from the Eastern European countries in its demand that Nato should unconditionally support the Turkish actions, and they believed that the border violation should be followed up with the deployment of more air defenses, more aircraft and more batteries of Patriot missiles along the border with Syria.”
But the Norwegian notes that France and Italy were opposed to explicitly supporting Turkey.
“The Germans were not against support, but at the same time wanted to be more nuanced. They argued that it was one thing to condemn the border violation, quite another to justify a shooting down because of a violation that lasted 17 seconds.”
In response, Russia deployed S-400 air defence systems to Syria and sent its flagship, Moskva, to the Syrian coast.
Corn, canapes and shouting matches: How Erdogan and Stoltenberg’s bromance saved Nato
Former Nato chief Jens Stoltenberg has written a memoir chronicling disputes over Syria, Sweden and Russia
When you consider how shit Russian military performance in Ukraine has been, would have been a total disaster for Russia to start shit with Turkiye.
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