Turkish Missile Programs
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eIsQengiz
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Roketsan’s programs in 2025 highlight the rapid pace at which Türkiye has advanced toward Defense self-reliance, ambitiously developing a full spectrum of home-grown systems and technological marvels
hyperman
INT'L MOD
The speed and volume at which systems are being added is truly generational. Outside of China, I can't think of a single country adding system and modernizing at this pace. Maybe the South Koreans, but they had a significant headstart, but Turkey is closing gaps fast and in a more extensive say in terms of subsystems.
MMM-E
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Can the PATRIOT intercept 1,500 km TAYFUN Block4 and CENK MRBMs ?
GROK says
No, Patriot systems (especially the PAC-3/PAC-3 MSE variants) typically cannot reliably intercept a MRBM (Medium-Range Ballistic Missile) with a range of 1,500 km
The Patriot system (MIM-104) is a point/area defense system designed primarily for short-range tactical ballistic missiles (SRBMs) and lower-flight-profile MRBMs of near-medium range
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A ballistic missile with a range of 1,500 km means higher apoj (altitude), longer flight time, and a higher re-entry speed (Mach 5+). Patriot's kinetic energy, altitude, and response time are generally insufficient for such threats
Defended area: A battery protects approximately 50–100 km² (slightly more with PAC-3 MSE)
Maximum altitude: Around ~40 km with PAC-3 MSE (~20 km with PAC-2).
The apex altitude of an MRBM with a range of 1,500 km is usually around 300 km → Patriot cannot reach this altitude, it can only make a lucky hit in the terminal phase.
The most effective systems against threats in this range are higher-level systems such as THAAD or Arrow-3
KOMSU will need THAAD or ARROW-3 to stop Turkish TAYFUN B4 and CENK MRBMs
GROK says
No, Patriot systems (especially the PAC-3/PAC-3 MSE variants) typically cannot reliably intercept a MRBM (Medium-Range Ballistic Missile) with a range of 1,500 km
The Patriot system (MIM-104) is a point/area defense system designed primarily for short-range tactical ballistic missiles (SRBMs) and lower-flight-profile MRBMs of near-medium range
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A ballistic missile with a range of 1,500 km means higher apoj (altitude), longer flight time, and a higher re-entry speed (Mach 5+). Patriot's kinetic energy, altitude, and response time are generally insufficient for such threats
Defended area: A battery protects approximately 50–100 km² (slightly more with PAC-3 MSE)
Maximum altitude: Around ~40 km with PAC-3 MSE (~20 km with PAC-2).
The apex altitude of an MRBM with a range of 1,500 km is usually around 300 km → Patriot cannot reach this altitude, it can only make a lucky hit in the terminal phase.
The most effective systems against threats in this range are higher-level systems such as THAAD or Arrow-3
KOMSU will need THAAD or ARROW-3 to stop Turkish TAYFUN B4 and CENK MRBMs
MMM-E
Elite Member
Türkiye is now maintaining a balance of Missile Power in the region against Iran and Israel
in 2000s
-- 150 km J600T Ballistic Missile
-- 165 km ATACMS Block IA
J600T and ATACMS BlockIA can not reach even Athens
in 2026
-- 150 km J600T Ballistic Missile ...( in service )
-- 165 km ATACMS Block IA Ballistic Missile ...( in service )
-- 360 km BORA Ballistic Missile ...( in service )
-- 560+ km TAYFUN Block1 Ballistic Missile ...( in service )
-- 500+ km 300-ER air launched Ballistic Missile .. ( on the way )
-- 1.000+ km TAYFUN Block4 hypersonic Ballistic Missile ( test firing will take place this year )
-- 2.000 km CENK hypersonic Ballistic Missile .. ( under development )
also ground based Cruise Missiles
-- 400+ km KARA-ATMACA/UM
-- 1.000 km GEZGIN
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Having our own hypersonic Ballistic Missiles provides significant deterrence
A Country that can make its own Weapons, Missiles and Radars can also determine its own security... this is the most important threshold to overcome on the path to full deterrence
in 2000s
-- 150 km J600T Ballistic Missile
-- 165 km ATACMS Block IA
J600T and ATACMS BlockIA can not reach even Athens
in 2026
-- 150 km J600T Ballistic Missile ...( in service )
-- 165 km ATACMS Block IA Ballistic Missile ...( in service )
-- 360 km BORA Ballistic Missile ...( in service )
-- 560+ km TAYFUN Block1 Ballistic Missile ...( in service )
-- 500+ km 300-ER air launched Ballistic Missile .. ( on the way )
-- 1.000+ km TAYFUN Block4 hypersonic Ballistic Missile ( test firing will take place this year )
-- 2.000 km CENK hypersonic Ballistic Missile .. ( under development )
also ground based Cruise Missiles
-- 400+ km KARA-ATMACA/UM
-- 1.000 km GEZGIN
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Having our own hypersonic Ballistic Missiles provides significant deterrence
A Country that can make its own Weapons, Missiles and Radars can also determine its own security... this is the most important threshold to overcome on the path to full deterrence
MMM-E
Elite Member
The maximum range of the CAKIR Cruise Missile has increased by 50 km, reaching 200 km when dropped from the air and 150 km when launched from the ground
CAKIR Cruise Missile ( air launched variant )
Length : 3,3 m
Weight : 275 kg
Warhead : 70 kg
Diameter : 275 mm
Speed : High Subsonic (Mach 0.75–0.85)
Range : 200 km
Engine : national KTJ-1750 turbojet engine
Datalink : Network-Based Bidirectional Datalink
Guidance : Mid-Phase Guidance: Inertial Navigation System
Antijam Global Navigation Satellite System (GNSS)
Radar Altimeter
Barometric Altimeter
Terrain Referenced Navigation System
Terminal Phase Guidance: Hybrid (IIR+RF) Seeker
CAKIR Cruise Missile ( ground launched variant )
Length : 3,8 m
Weight : 350 kg .... (With Booster)
Warhead : 70 kg
Diameter : 275 mm
Speed : High Subsonic (Mach 0.75–0.85)
Range : 150 km
Engine : national KTJ-1750 turbojet engine
Datalink : Network-Based Bidirectional Datalink
Guidance : Mid-Phase Guidance: Inertial Navigation System
Antijam Global Navigation Satellite System (GNSS)
Radar Altimeter
Barometric Altimeter
Terrain Referenced Navigation System
Terminal Phase Guidance: Hybrid (IIR+RF) Seeker
CAKIR Cruise Missile ( air launched variant )
Length : 3,3 m
Weight : 275 kg
Warhead : 70 kg
Diameter : 275 mm
Speed : High Subsonic (Mach 0.75–0.85)
Range : 200 km
Engine : national KTJ-1750 turbojet engine
Datalink : Network-Based Bidirectional Datalink
Guidance : Mid-Phase Guidance: Inertial Navigation System
Antijam Global Navigation Satellite System (GNSS)
Radar Altimeter
Barometric Altimeter
Terrain Referenced Navigation System
Terminal Phase Guidance: Hybrid (IIR+RF) Seeker
CAKIR Cruise Missile ( ground launched variant )
Length : 3,8 m
Weight : 350 kg .... (With Booster)
Warhead : 70 kg
Diameter : 275 mm
Speed : High Subsonic (Mach 0.75–0.85)
Range : 150 km
Engine : national KTJ-1750 turbojet engine
Datalink : Network-Based Bidirectional Datalink
Guidance : Mid-Phase Guidance: Inertial Navigation System
Antijam Global Navigation Satellite System (GNSS)
Radar Altimeter
Barometric Altimeter
Terrain Referenced Navigation System
Terminal Phase Guidance: Hybrid (IIR+RF) Seeker
MMM-E
Elite Member
ROKETSAN Updates Maximum Range for MAM-L IIR to 40 km
ROKETSAN, in its updated catalogue for 2026, updated the range for MAM-L IIR glide munition to 40 km, a significant increase from the previously given 25 km
For reference, 40 km is more than the maximum range for most of medium-range air defence systems such as FK-2000 , PANTSIR , VL-MICA , IRIS-T SLM
Due to not needing a laser designator, MAM-L IIR can reach a considerably longer range compared to the baseline MAM-L with laser guidance, which is limited to 15 km.
ROKETSAN Updates Maximum Range for MAM-L IIR to 40 km | TURDEF
ROKETSAN, in its updated catalogue for 2026, updated the range for MAM-L IIR glide munition to 40 km, a significant increase from the previously given 25 km.
turdef.com
Samurai
Registered Member
Gotta give it to the Turks and also South Korea. Both countries have risen up in the world and made a huge footprint in the defence industry. Absolutely phenomenal
The Karaok portable anti-tank missile with a 2.5km brochure range, is reported to have reached 4km ranges
Previous brochure information stated that the missile + tube weight was less than 16kg. The source below specifies the new weight as 25kg. In this case, Karaok must have undergone a series of modifications and become slightly heavier than previous version. This may have made the range increase possible
The range improvement is nice but I don't want the system to get too heavy. It is supposed to be portable after all.
Previous brochure information stated that the missile + tube weight was less than 16kg. The source below specifies the new weight as 25kg. In this case, Karaok must have undergone a series of modifications and become slightly heavier than previous version. This may have made the range increase possible
The range improvement is nice but I don't want the system to get too heavy. It is supposed to be portable after all.
hyperman
INT'L MOD
Might have been necessary for the range and payload to remain competitive in the modern battlefield. Especially with FPV drones and other things changing the dynamics.
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