Turkish Sensor and Detector Programs

New Radar projects from ASELSAN



Aselsan ALP-600G


Threats from Space can be detected with the ALP-600G very high altitude Search and Tracking Radar

-- ALP-600G would be the primary Radar for the Turkish Balistic Missile Defense System


Similar to American AN-TPY2 Radar which was deployed in Qatar, Turkiye and Israel

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Aselsan ALP-400G


ALP-400G Radar to detect 5th gen Fighter Jet like the F-35

Similar to Russian NEBO-UM VHF - UHF and Passive Radar
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Aselsan ASELPOD Targeting Pod


General Features

Internal Boresight Unit
Dual-Wavelength Laser Range Finder
Common FOVs for the system (NFOF, WFOV, SWFOV)
Super Wide Field of View for IR Camera
Navigation capability at Night with IR video on HUD
Continuous Zoom for IR Camera (Optional)
Multi-Target Tracking
Air-to-Air and Air-to-Ground Modes
Video and Data Recorder (Optional)

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Any data on range?

Also what is the best IRST pod out from Türkiye? And what is its max range?
 
ASELSAN Infrared based Missile Warning System: IRIS 200


💢 Detection capability at all stages of missile launch
💢 High detection range of 30+ km
💢 High threat angle of arrival notification
💢 Short response time for automatic triggering of countermeasure systems

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Any indication Türkiye has a Hard Kill System in development, to maximize use of this system, similar to what is being developed by MBDA and Leonardo. Türkiye has a good relationship with Leonardo, so this could be another project to collaborate on.


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Working with Leonardo and BAE Systems, MBDA is advancing a hard-kill defensive aid system (HK-DAS) concept as part of the platform's integrated defensive system. Designed to track, target, and intercept incoming missiles, HK-DAS is a compact < 1 m length, 10 kg-class imaging infrared (IIR) hit-to-kill missile, released from launchers integrated within the platform airframe. In keeping with its commonality, modularity, and reuse principle, the company is also considering, as part of the same conceptual family, a scalable Ground Attack Micromissile in the same form factor, but furnished with a small explosive payload to enable a close-air support role from the platform.

In the air-to-air domain, leveraging its current in-service 88 kg class, 166 mm calibre, IR-homing Advanced Short-Range Air-to-Air Missile (ASRAAM) technologies, MBDA is exploring new within-visual-range air-to-air missile (WVRAAM) concepts.

The US is also working on a similar system.


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ALP600-G very very long range radar radar and ALP400-G VHF radar...



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This network-centric approach is great. It shows we're keeping up with the times. However, I doubt we're able to afford a full coverage of Anatolia, N Cyprus and Thrace. It's simply too expensive.
 
Any indication Türkiye has a Hard Kill System in development, to maximize use of this system, similar to what is being developed by MBDA and Leonardo. Türkiye has a good relationship with Leonardo, so this could be another project to collaborate on.


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Looks similar to the Sungur Air Defense System. Maybe something based off that?

 
Looks similar to the Sungur Air Defense System. Maybe something based off that?

Not exactly. I know it looks like a manpad, but the HK-DAS isn’t as much about range as it is for instantaneous maneuverability and quickly acquiring the target and locking it and hitting it; one shot one kill.
 
Any indication Türkiye has a Hard Kill System in development, to maximize use of this system, similar to what is being developed by MBDA and Leonardo. Türkiye has a good relationship with Leonardo, so this could be another project to collaborate on.


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At this stage Turkish defence does not need any partners anymore for this kind weapons.
 
Not exactly. I know it looks like a manpad, but the HK-DAS isn’t as much about range as it is for instantaneous maneuverability and quickly acquiring the target and locking it and hitting it; one shot one kill.

Lets see, its all theoretical right now, we have never seen hard kill systems on air platforms before. We don't know what range they will be intercepting to prevent shrapnel from hitting the plane. And whether the missiles will be more maneuverable than the incoming missile, among other issues.

This tech is very far away, and we have no idea if its even viable..
 
Lets see, its all theoretical right now, we have never seen hard kill systems on air platforms before. We don't know what range they will be intercepting to prevent shrapnel from hitting the plane. And whether the missiles will be more maneuverable than the incoming missile, among other issues.

This tech is very far away, and we have no idea if its even viable..
That’s why I suggested Türkiye approach Leonardo for a Request for information into a possible collaboration. Develop the tech further if Leonardo’s project looks viable.

It’s something Europe and the US are looking into, as a new normal, similar to how hard kill systems are becoming the new normal for modern tanks.
 
That’s why I suggested Türkiye approach Leonardo for a Request for information into a possible collaboration. Develop the tech further if Leonardo’s project looks viable.

It’s something Europe and the US are looking into, as a new normal, similar to how hard kill systems are becoming the new normal for modern tanks.

You want to hit a bullet with a bullet, againg what makes this project viable because Leanordo is the keyholder?
 
You want to hit a bullet with a bullet, againg what makes this project viable because Leanordo is the keyholder?
ABM tech works, why would intercepting a at most Mach 5 incoming WVR or BVR missile be hard harder.

Leonardo isn’t what makes it viable or not, but they have put in the research and perhaps have a working prototype. They also know the meteor is a benchmark missile that would need to be countered, so they would have presumably made the HK-DAS to be capable of intercepting a similar missile.

Turkey has worked with the Italians before on the T-129, so this is another place to cooperate, if it looks like the Italians have made a breakthrough or something decent to continue developing. It looks far enough along that MBDA has a plaque to market it.
 
ABM tech works, why would intercepting a at most Mach 5 incoming WVR or BVR missile be hard harder.

Leonardo isn’t what makes it viable or not, but they have put in the research and perhaps have a working prototype. They also know the meteor is a benchmark missile that would need to be countered, so they would have presumably made the HK-DAS to be capable of intercepting a similar missile.

Turkey has worked with the Italians before on the T-129, so this is another place to cooperate, if it looks like the Italians have made a breakthrough or something decent to continue developing. It looks far enough along that MBDA has a plaque to market it.

Well yes but ABM usually requires quite a lot of radars for tracking and guidance of the missile as well as several interceptors and a largely predictable ballistic trajectory.

The air to air missile is a lot more complicated, its moves a lot more, you don't have the same level of tracking and guidance radars and the plane itself is quite delicate where the missile need not even hit the plane for the plane to go down, b/c the missile usually don't rely on a kinetic kill but a proximity fuse and other things.

The whole process we have no idea if this is going to be viable. its complicated enough deploying hard kill systems on tanks, this thing is even more complicated.

you might end up throwing billions and may not even have a viable product at the end of the day.
 

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