Oublious
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Equilevant off C version, it is 100km+. 65km was a minimum requirements by the airforce in the begin.
Turkish UAV/UCAV Projects
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Equilevant off C version, it is 100km+. 65km was a minimum requirements by the airforce in the begin.
Sinan
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These things doesn't need to be discussed on public. I never liked Ismail Demir, good thing they removed him from the job. Nowadays, much info is being shared regarding defence industry products.
Like why are you giving the range, enemies will plan inaccordingly to that.
hyperman
INT'L MOD
No 100+km doesn't tell us anything proprietary. These days every BVRAAM does 100+, they give range on the brochures for people looking to buy too. He didn't reveal anything secret. If he gave the exact range, that would be bad. My estimate, I would say given the kinematics and the miniaturization os sensors and cutting down of weight and the fact that its a new design Gokdogan is atleast between 150-180km, so somewhere around an AIM-120C/D anything less would be considered underperforming compared to the other missiles on the market.
MMM-E
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NO
The upcoming GOKDOGAN-ER is expected to feature dual-pulse solid propulsion
This will increase range and terminal engagement energy of the missile
Oublious
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@hyperman
Retired Air Lieutenant General Erdoğan Karakuş:
We discussed this issue with Selçuk Bayraktar. There will be four types of KIZILELMA. KIZILELMA will be able to do what the F-35 does.
There is also TİSU from TUSAŞ. There is an attack unmanned combat aircraft.
In addition, the production of an electronic warfare UAV is being considered.
We will become extremely deterrent against threats.
TUSAŞ had shared the visual of the unmanned combat aircraft.
Retired Air Lieutenant General Erdoğan Karakuş:
We discussed this issue with Selçuk Bayraktar. There will be four types of KIZILELMA. KIZILELMA will be able to do what the F-35 does.There is also TİSU from TUSAŞ. There is an attack unmanned combat aircraft.In addition, the production of an electronic warfare UAV is being considered.We will become extremely deterrent against threats.TUSAŞ had shared the visual of the unmanned combat aircraft.
ANKA-III has successfully passed another important milestone in its development process. 
Within the scope of system verification and identification test flights, ANKA-III completed its 46th sortie and also successfully concluded the critical autopilot tests.
With its high-technology-based architecture and superior performance, ANKA-III represents TUSAŞ's engineering capabilities and production strength.
Within the scope of system verification and identification test flights, ANKA-III completed its 46th sortie and also successfully concluded the critical autopilot tests.
With its high-technology-based architecture and superior performance, ANKA-III represents TUSAŞ's engineering capabilities and production strength.
MMM-E
Elite Member
AKINCI is a different type of UCAV to compare with WJ-700
WJ-700 has only advantage its speed ( because of jet engined )
WJ-700 doesnt have AESA Radar and air to air combat capability
also WJ-700 has limited strike capability with 35 km C704-KD and 100 km CM-102 Missiles ....... ( PATRIOT , S300 , S400 , SIPER Block2 , DAVID SLING's , HQ-9 AD Systems can hit WJ-700 )
and WJ-700 with 35 km C704KD Missile wont survive against Warships
On the other hand
AKINCI UCAV can hunt WJ-700 , Thanks to MURAD-100 AESA Radar and 100-180 km GOKDOGAN - GOKBORA air to air Missiles
AKINCI UCAV has 2 times more payload capability to carry superior Missiles like
150+ km IHA-230 supersonic Missile (speed of mach 3+) .... to hit AD Systems
150+ km CAKIR cruise Missile ( RF+IIR seeker ) land attack /anti-ship
150+ km KUZGUN-TJ modular strike Missile ( RF seeker ) for anti-radiation role
275 km SOM-J stealth Cruise Missile ( IIR seeker ) land attack /anti-ship
500+ km 300-ER air launched Ballistic Missile ( TV seeker ) to hit everything
also AKINCI UCAV armed with
50+ km MAM-T IIR ( IIR seeker ) land attack /anti-ship
60+ km IHA-82 KG ( RF seeker ) anti-ship role with 230 kg warhead
80 km TOLUN-IIR ( IIR seeker ) land attack /anti-ship
100 km EREN ( IIR seeker ) land attack /anti-ship
100 km KEMANKES-1 ( E/O Camera seeker )
150 km KEMANKES-2 ( E/O Camera seeker )
700 km SUPER LIGHTNING ( E/O Camera seeker )
AKINCI UCAV can carry even 970 kg GAZAP Thermobaric Bomb , while WJ-700 UCAV has max payload capacity of 800 kg
And AKINCI is coming to become the first UAV in the world to carry ASOJ-234U long range radar and communications jamming system to escort other UCAVs for SEAD-DEAD role
Also AKINCI UCAV carry Antidot 2-U multiband electronic attack jammer to disturb enemy radars at longer range
And the Antidot 2-U/S electronic support Pod capable to carry out electronic intelligence as well as electronic support measures missions.
These Pods allow transforming non-dedicated electronic warfare UAVs into platforms capable to conduct SEAD (Suppression of Enemy Air Defences) providing information about the threat and ensuring platform or formation protection against enemy assets
Also AKINCI UCAV carry superior ASELFLIR -600 E/O Camera to see military/strategic targets from 200 km away
This image was taken from 140 km away
Thanks to this new EOS, a Turkish UAV operating from İzmir could, under suitable environmental conditions, monitor Athens
You are comparing a technologically advanced platform ( AKINCI ) to a platform ( WJ-700 ) that only has a speed advantage.
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royalharris
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How about the price comparison?
MMM-E
Elite Member
World’s First: Autonomous Close-Formation Flight by 2 Unmanned Fighter Aircraft
During the flight test, the Combat Air Patrol (CAP) mission, a fundamental element of modern air combat, was also tested.
The KIZILELMA prototypes, accompanied by fleet autonomy software, flawlessly performed the patrol flight along the designated route
MURAD-100 AESA Radar and 100-200 km GOKDOGAN / GOKBORA air to air Missiles will give a tremendous advantage to KIZILELMA unmanned stealth Fighter Jet to hit 4,5th gen Fighter Jets such as F-15EX , F-16V , RAFALE , SU-35 , J10C in BVR combat
During the flight test, the Combat Air Patrol (CAP) mission, a fundamental element of modern air combat, was also tested.
The KIZILELMA prototypes, accompanied by fleet autonomy software, flawlessly performed the patrol flight along the designated route
MURAD-100 AESA Radar and 100-200 km GOKDOGAN / GOKBORA air to air Missiles will give a tremendous advantage to KIZILELMA unmanned stealth Fighter Jet to hit 4,5th gen Fighter Jets such as F-15EX , F-16V , RAFALE , SU-35 , J10C in BVR combat
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MMM-E
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The AKINCI UCAV successfully completed a firing test against a moving target with the TOLUN-IIR munition
AKINCI UCAV with ASELFLIR-600 EOTS can see a Tank from 80 km and to hit even moving Tanks with TOLUN IIR munitions from 80 km away
AKINCI UCAV with ASELFLIR-600 EOTS can see a Tank from 80 km and to hit even moving Tanks with TOLUN IIR munitions from 80 km away
MMM-E
Elite Member
AKINCI UCAV can see a Bridge from 200 km away and to hit it with the 300-ER air launched Ballistic Missile ( range of 500+ km )
The image shown here was taken by Aselsan's ASELFLIR-600 Electro-Optical Reconnaissance, Surveillance and Targeting System from a distance of 200,403 meters ... ( 200+ km )
ASELFLIR-600 is equipped with Short-Wave Infrared (SWIR) and high-resolution daytime camera channel integration, enabling sharp, full-color, high-detail imagery even under challenging operational conditions.
www.turkiyetoday.com
The image shown here was taken by Aselsan's ASELFLIR-600 Electro-Optical Reconnaissance, Surveillance and Targeting System from a distance of 200,403 meters ... ( 200+ km )
Aselsan's ASELFLIR-600 achieves 200 km detection range in Bayraktar AKINCI UCAV tests
ASELFLIR-600 is equipped with Short-Wave Infrared (SWIR) and high-resolution daytime camera channel integration, enabling sharp, full-color, high-detail imagery even under challenging operational conditions.
Aselsan's ASELFLIR-600 achieves 200 km detection range in Bayraktar Akinci tests - Türkiye Today
Aselsan's ASELFLIR-600 electro-optical system demonstrates a 200-kilometer detection range in Bayraktar Akinci flight tests
www.turkiyetoday.com
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