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[Ravenman]

I am totally with the Serbs.

They were allied with the Ottoman empire for almost 500 years and donated a lot of ministers, pasha’s and soldiers (Sokulovic Mehmet Pasa was the famoust).

Serbia/Yugoslavia was the victim of US-Israeli agression.

Yugoslavia contained Serbia, Croatia, Slovenia, Kosovo, Bosnia, Macedonia, Montenegro. It was a very big nation in South Europe, almost the seize of Germany.

They didnt want a independant selfsustained big European country in the south, what could be a headache for cuck-states like France, Germany and UK so they destroyed it.

They have planned this for Turkey also.

 

[Eşbah]

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[Eşbah]

I will say this, Serbia had the best conditions in 1990, high birth rate, average age was under 30, had the JNA under their control, etc. today it is completely different where Serbia is home to 6.4m only 5.2m are actual serbs, with an annual negative birth rate of 36k (more than live births), it has an average age of 37, and high emigration. A war would accelerate their demise, what can belgrade do if they have 4m serbs in Serbia (which is the reality in 2050s), this includes pensioners (35%). Serbia has one last chance to do something in the region, and that window is closing fast. This is why all intel agencies (Croatia,,BiH, Kosovo and Albania) all point to a rapid re-arming of Serbia, and intel assessments that show Serbia is waiting for an opportunity to start another war. In Bosnia it’s worse, around 800k Serbs (down from 1.4m in 1991), 270k of which are pensioners, they are basically done. In 25 years the number of serbs in BiH will be 600k from age 0-100.

We could say the same about every single Balkan country, though. Serbia's economy is currently doing ok or let's say it's performing better than its neighbours. The window of opportunity for an attack has not been closed yet.

 

[Foinikas]

We could say the same about every single Balkan country, though. Serbia's economy is currently doing ok or let's say it's performing better than its neighbours. The window of opportunity for an attack has not been closed yet.

I agree with @CrniLabud on this. If the Serbs or should I say the "Yugoslavs" as it was still Yugoslavia(Serbia and Montenegro),along with the RS and RSK,couldn't take all that at the height of their strength back in the early '90s...I doubt they can now. I don't think they will try something,but then again...I don't trust Vucic.

 

[CrniLabud]

We could say the same about every single Balkan country, though. Serbia's economy is currently doing ok or let's say it's performing better than its neighbours. The window of opportunity for an attack has not been closed yet.

Correct, Vucic did a good job in raising the economy, but in terms of demographics, in Bosnia the Bosniaks are the only group which either breaking even (same death/birth) but since 1997-2019 Bosniaks had a positive birth rate while Bosnian Serbs started recording negative birth rates since 2002. As a whole from a regional perspective, demographically the serbs are the worst off followed by croats. I would argue Vucic has another 10 years before the window closes, and if he does start a war its a lose-lose proposition.

 

[Eşbah]

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[hyperman]

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Israelis were boosting that opposition party, and it looks like it came up short.

 

[pashtunkoum]

I am totally with the Serbs.

They were allied with the Ottoman empire for almost 500 years and donated a lot of ministers, pasha’s and soldiers (Sokulovic Mehmet Pasa was the famoust).

Serbia/Yugoslavia was the victim of US-Israeli agression.

Yugoslavia contained Serbia, Croatia, Slovenia, Kosovo, Bosnia, Macedonia, Montenegro. It was a very big nation in South Europe, almost the seize of Germany.

They didnt want a independant selfsustained big European country in the south, what could be a headache for cuck-states like France, Germany and UK so they destroyed it.

They have planned this for Turkey also.

takes likes these completely ignores the reality of Yugoslavia and what the people wanted.

 

[Foinikas]

Serbia/Yugoslavia was the victim of US-Israeli agression.

It was. An we're talking about hawkish governments with actual zionists in the cabinet who all of a sudden "cared for Muslims". They gave independence to Kosovar Albanians
and what do they have? A failed narco-State.

Realistically,you couldn't hold post-communist Yugoslavia together,but helping it tear itself apart was also wrong.

 

[Ravenman]

Correct, Vucic did a good job in raising the economy, but in terms of demographics, in Bosnia the Bosniaks are the only group which either breaking even (same death/birth) but since 1997-2019 Bosniaks had a positive birth rate while Bosnian Serbs started recording negative birth rates since 2002. As a whole from a regional perspective, demographically the serbs are the worst off followed by croats. I would argue Vucic has another 10 years before the window closes, and if he does start a war its a lose-lose proposition.

That is a worldwide problem (except maybe in Africa) because of Onlyfans (with a zionist Israeli owner).

Onlyfans is pulling girls to their platform by showing that they can make millions of dollars (independancy) without working.

They are isolating more and more girls and breaking them away from their families. Those girls will sell their bodies and never make babies.

A huge problem in the West.

Every responsible non-zio government should ban Onlyfans.

 

[Foinikas]

That is a worldwide problem (except maybe in Africa) because of Onlyfans (with a zionist Israeli owner).

Onlyfans is pulling girls to their platform by showing that they can make millions of dollars (independancy) without working.

They are isolating more and more girls and breaking them away from their families. Those girls will sell their bodies and never make babies.

A huge problem in the West.

Every responsible non-zio government should ban Onlyfans.

Well,anti-zionists are falling for it as well

 

[Watandar]

Well,anti-zionists are falling for it as well

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where did you read this ?

 

[hyperman]

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Bosnia Ordering TB2s.

 

[Foinikas]

where did you read this ?

documentary about mia khalifa

 

[CrniLabud]

People forget that Yugoslavia was an experiment that went bad. It’s existence from 1918-1992 was an attempt to unify the different ethnic groups into one country. No one was happy, Tito held it together with an iron fist, silenced opposition and sent political enthusiasts to the infamous “goli otok,” an island where you were forced to chip stone all day with no purpose. Once Tito died, the serbs started overstepping their power allotment, the “brotherhood and unity” concept worked great when there was representation and power sharing amongst the republics and peoples. Once that started being undermined, it all went to hell. Even the nice Slovenians who are the most peaceful and mannered group took up arms, that says a lot. YU was similar to the Soviet Union, it was artificial with an imposed identity “Yugo” which literally translates to “southern.” Bosniaks were especially mistreated in YU, from systemic oppression to land confiscation.