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Ali_Baba said:
Türkiye really needs to help pull Azerbaijan away from Israel, it has the influence and now the capability. Is there anything that Israel makes that it cannot get from Türkiye ?
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It depends on the context and case but generally speaking, Azerbaijan has more power over Ankara than Israel has over the US ruling class.
 
Ali_Baba said:
Türkiye really needs to help pull Azerbaijan away from Israel, it has the influence and now the capability. Is there anything that Israel makes that it cannot get from Türkiye ?
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The power dynamics are complicated. We don't have as much control over them, or should I say, we don't have as much control over Aliyev.

Its not that oh Turkey doesn't have this tech and can't give him, that is why he is buying Israeli. I used to think that. But then as Turkey began to more or less build everything Israel has and he continued to buy Israeli instead of a Turkish equivalent, I began to understand that the game is a little different.

He EXPLICITLY buys Israeli to not become dependent on Turkiye. A matter of fact he sees Turkiye almost as a threat, like a Big Brother he doesn't want to become dependent on or that will have leverage on him.

He triangulates, buys, Russian, Turkish, Israel and now Chinese and even Serbian for some reason.

And in many ways does things that upset Turks. Like Azerbaijan will allow Catholic Churches and Israeli linked Synagogues to be built and even Protestant Churches, but he doesn't want the Turkish Dianet to build Hanafi mosques in Azerbaijan, for some reason he sees that as a threat to his power. Then as you are seeing he is doing weird stuff like banning headscarves for people who work in govt and schools and for schoolgirls, while allowing Jewish boys to wear their hats.

There is tension in the dynamics with Aliyev as much as there is partnership with Azerbaijan. For optical reasons Turkey is never going to confront him b/c Its not in Turkish interests and because it will only make things worse, as Turkey has more to lose than gain, and he isn't really dependent on Turkey where Turkey has enough leverage to force him to behave.

Recently he was downplaying Turkey's role in helping take back Karabagh, saying they bought the weapons and he doesn't make mention of Turkey as often anymore.
 
Azerbaijan - new wars on Hijab girls

There are big protests in Azerbaijan. I am not sure where I should post this news somewhere since we don't have a lot of Azerbaijan topics since this thread is not related.







 
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English Translation:
🔴 A headscarf-wearing student in Azerbaijan:

“They locked me in a room just because I wear a headscarf. They didn’t even let me out for recess.

They didn’t even allow me to call my mom.

My mom thought I was in class.

Finally, my mom came. Whatever they told her at school, she came out in tears.

My friends come to class wearing skirts that don’t even reach their knees. Why can’t I?”

 
This is not going to end well for Aliyev, creating this sort of tension and resentment in society tends to polarise people against the state. There are Karabakh martyrs whose daughters he is throwing out of schools over a headscarf.

Even the Kemalists in Turkiye are telling him to not do it.

 


I swear this is all planned by Aliyev.

The Turkish govt hasn't commented on anything.

He created the problem, now he is blaming Turkey for it.

This came right after another story where he was downplaying Turkey's role in helping liberate Karabakh.

I'm not much for conspiracies but it really feels planned, like he is being advised to do this from the outside, he can't be this fking dumb, now attacking Turkey for something the govt has gone out of its way to not comment on.
 
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hyperman said:
The power dynamics are complicated. We don't have as much control over them, or should I say, we don't have as much control over Aliyev.

Its not that oh Turkey doesn't have this tech and can't give him, that is why he is buying Israeli. I used to think that. But then as Turkey began to more or less build everything Israel has and he continued to buy Israeli instead of a Turkish equivalent, I began to understand that the game is a little different.

He EXPLICITLY buys Israeli to not become dependent on Turkiye. A matter of fact he sees Turkiye almost as a threat, like a Big Brother he doesn't want to become dependent on or that will have leverage on him.

He triangulates, buys, Russian, Turkish, Israel and now Chinese and even Serbian for some reason.

And in many ways does things that upset Turks. Like Azerbaijan will allow Catholic Churches and Israeli linked Synagogues to be built and even Protestant Churches, but he doesn't want the Turkish Dianet to build Hanafi mosques in Azerbaijan, for some reason he sees that as a threat to his power. Then as you are seeing he is doing weird stuff like banning headscarves for people who work in govt and schools and for schoolgirls, while allowing Jewish boys to wear their hats.

There is tension in the dynamics with Aliyev as much as there is partnership with Azerbaijan. For optical reasons Turkey is never going to confront him b/c Its not in Turkish interests and because it will only make things worse, as Turkey has more to lose than gain, and he isn't really dependent on Turkey where Turkey has enough leverage to force him to behave.

Recently he was downplaying Turkey's role in helping take back Karabagh, saying they bought the weapons and he doesn't make mention of Turkey as often anymore.
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After Ukraine Russians will go see him with Armenians, lets see him chestbump.
 
Honestly to me it seems like planned theatre. Probably created to divert attention away from the domestic scandel which robbed the nation of billions in which many of erdogans islamists were involved in.

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When i see "political islamists" in nearly all cases all i see are frauds and thieves.

I also get tired of all the anti-isreal talk when your happy to keep licking the arse of the US, or england, or france.

In terms of damage done to Muslims, Isreal would sit at the bottom of that list.

umtards are a disaster for Islamic civilsation. No brains.
 
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