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[Qaraca]

When Putin, with actual insight of negotiations, and someone who had his signatory in the 2020 ceasefire statement talks like this, and then you compare it to things people in this very thread claims.

Putin seems to be of the opinion that the balance of power was in Azerbaijan’s favor, that imbalance would only have gotten wider and that Armenia could not have kept the status quo and should have compromised.

“We responded: Listen, Azerbaijan is growing, its economy is advancing, it is an oil producing country, its population is already over 10 million, let’s compare the potential. This compromise should be reached while there is still an opportunity. For our part, we were confident that we would have the respective decisions taken by the UN Security Council, and would guarantee the security of this naturally emerging Lachin Corridor between Armenia and Karabakh, and guarantee the safety of Armenians who live there.

But we were told that they could not do that. So what will you do? We will fight, they said. Well, okay, it all came down to the armed clashes in 2020.”

Valdai International Discussion Club meeting

Vladimir Putin took part in the plenary session of the 20th anniversary meeting of the Valdai International Discussion Club.

en.kremlin.ru

I’m quoting this again after all those comments.

 

[hyperman]

Iran
Russia
even France

Turkiye stopped all of them in Karabakh war

Turkiye was fighting with them even in Syria and in Libya

They don't appreciate enough, without Turkey, they would be like Kazakhstan and other states who are essentially still functioning as Russian satellite states as part of CSTO and Eurasian Union. Or even look at Georgia which as a coastline to the ocean, even with all that, part of its country is taken over by Russian breakaway states, and arguably the current govt is basically a Pro Russian puppet govt that Russia engineered.

There is no sovereignty they have without Turkey, its a hard truth to swallow, but its the truth. Because only Turkey would send soldiers to help them if something happened. Kazakhs would look the other way b/c they are completely dependent on Russia to export their oil and they have a Russian population themselves that Russia will punish them with. Europe will not help them, Israelis will certainly not help them, Iran has better relations with Armenia than them. Its only Turkey, and yet you see them lash out, not even for Azeri reasons, but for Aliyev.

Turkey is the only Turkish state that not a former soviet state and under the Russian orbit, and whatever sovereignty they have is via Turkish initiatives. Without Turkiye they go back to being ovs and evs, with Kremlin appointed dictator over them who runs the country like the old Politiboro. And then these are the people mocking about "arabizing".

 

[MMM-E]

Because only Turkey would send soldiers to help them if something happened.

Even only ERDOGAN
And They attack ERDOGAN, calling him even an "Islamist"
yet those whom describe as "secular" didn't provide a single bit of aid to Azerbaijan in 1993

in 1993 Azerbaijan asked 4 Helicopters from Turkiye
and DEMIREL said NO

Not seculars but Islamists helped Azerbaijan

 

[Sinan]

I’m quoting this again after all those comments.

Who the f is Putin compared to Turkish members here who literally sound like their Armenian brethern (not my words, they are calling Armenians “millet-i sadıka” while calling Azerbaijanis "ungrateful" on twitter. Same exact word used by members here).

You are arguing with political-islamists. You should notice that they are unable to comprehend our sentences and repeat the same things over and over.

There is no reasoning with these people. Consider that yourselves lucky that you are not sharing oxygen with these people.

 

[hyperman]

Islamists helped Azerbaijan

They only remember when its wartime.

Aliyev going around Mosque and his wife in headscarf, what happen to "Araplaştırılmayı reddediyoruz!"

Even in the 90s war, they went to go ask for mujahadeen fighters from Pakistan and Afghanistan, and in 2020s it was the Syrians who came that Turkey arranged? How come you didn't go ask for Tengri warriors in Mongolia, or Gagauzia or even a single Russified Turk from Kazakhstan to show up.

 

[Anatolia]

I’m quoting this again after all those comments.

Muslims do not fight in Israel. These Islamist in Turkiye would rather run away to USA and Germany than actually fight Israelis.
But against Azerbaijan you see how tough they act on social media.

 

[hyperman]

You are arguing with political-islamists.

You can just say Muslim. lol

 

[MMM-E]

I’m quoting this again after all those comments.

Who the f is Putin compared to Turkish members here who literally sound like their Armenian brethern (not my words, they are calling Armenians “millet-i sadıka” while calling Azerbaijanis "ungrateful" on twitter. Same exact word used by members here).

We do not engage in any cooperation with Armenia; however, Azerbaijan collaborates with Israel which is Türkiye’s greatest enemy

and, in doing so, attacks Turkiye and President ERDOGAN

 

[hyperman]

We do not engage in any cooperation with Armenia; however, Azerbaijan collaborates with Israel which is Türkiye’s greatest enemy

and, in doing so, attacks Turkiye and President ERDOGAN

Nothing Israel has that it gives them than cannot be provided to them by Turkey. So you know the choice is political and not out of necessity.

 

[MMM-E]

Aliyev going around Mosque and his wife in headscarf, what happen to "Araplaştırılmayı reddediyoruz!"

They acted that way to secure support from Turkiye and Pakistan.

Once they were done in Karabakh , they suddenly started labeling us as "Islamist Arabs."

 

[Anatolia]

 

[Sinan]

You can just say Muslim. lol

Nope, there is a big difference.

A political-islamist is the one who uses Islam for his benefit. Adnan Oktar, Şeyh Said, Fethullah Gülen and you know who.

 

[MMM-E]

Nothing Israel has that it gives them than cannot be provided to them by Turkey. So you know the choice is political and not out of necessity.

ALIYEV is under Israeli rule , Israel says and ALIYEV doing

-- 50% of Israel's oil imports come from Azerbaijan.

-- There is a large Jewish population in Azerbaijan. even ALIYEV's former son-in-law is also Jewish.

In fact, there are many Jews who have gone from Azerbaijan to Israel, and they have formed a lobby.

-- Azerbaijan and Israel view Iran as a common enemy


They sold out Türkiye for the sake of Israel.

 

[Sinan]

We do not engage in any cooperation with Armenia; however, Azerbaijan collaborates with Israel which is Türkiye’s greatest enemy

and, in doing so, attacks Turkiye and President ERDOGAN

Empty words as usual, i say to you what did Azerbaijan did against Turkey with Israel.

And all you can repeat the same sentence like a parrot.

Typical trait of political-islamists. They can't even comprehend what's said to them.

 

[Sinan]

Nothing Israel has that it gives them than cannot be provided to them by Turkey. So you know the choice is political and not out of necessity.

That's the words of a man with a poor historical knowledge.