Nuffle
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Based on history, the Israeli presence does not seem that deep in the Turkish MIC
Turkiye Builds A Hyperwar Capable Military ( unrivaled in the region )
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Well, with 6 Barracuda submarines that will be certainly a game changer..
MMM-E
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There is no even a contract for buying 6 BARRACUDA Submarines
and what about BARRACUDA Submarine ?
on the other hand
6 Type-214TN class AIP Submarines will be delivered to the Turkish Navy between 2023 and 2028
Also 80+ m MILDEN class Submarine could have capability to fire Cruise and Ballistic Missiles from VLS
Turkiye working on EDAS ( Esnek dikey atım Sistemi ) Flexible vertical launch System with cold launch technology to use for Submarines
It is estimated that MİLDEN will be the first Submarine with a 'Vertical Launch System' in the Turkish Navy's inventory
and Turkiye has already 560+ km TAYFUN Ballistic Missile technology to be modified for SLBM variant
Also Turkiye develops 1.000 km GEZGIN land attack Cruise Missile for TF-2000 Destroyer and MILDEN Submarine
so MILDEN class AIP Submarine construction and test activities will be completed in 2031 ...
( 6 years between 2025 and 2031 )
Egypt never can change the balance of power
Pingle
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Weapons systems you are betting on are 4 to 5 years away from certification and actual deployment and S400 you have only 2 batteries......
If you challenge Egypt tomorrow you will have to retreat with great embarrassment...... Egypt is infact only country that actually defeated Israel in 1973 and stood tall against Israel......
Why USA and Israel don't let Egypt to buy cutting edge Meteor or storm shadow cause they know this is the only Muslim power that knows how to fight....... post world war 2 Turkey do not have any real battle experience...... Egypt on other hand is a battle hardened military and only fanboys type people can say we will send this drone or that missile and "GAME OVER"......
We right now do not even know if your military projects end up following ALTAY......
MMM-E
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100+ km SIPER Block1 AD System mass production has already started
and 192 S400 Missiles are enough to block the Eastern Mediterranean
Thanks to 250-380 km 48N6E3 and 40N6E Missiles
36 S400 Launchers with 144 Missiles ready for fire
Egypt can not develop even a Cruise Missile
NO Ballistic Missile
NO long range Kamikaze Drone
Egypt doesnt have strategic strike capability
Turkiye has its own SOM air launched Cruise Missile with indigenous turbojet engine technology to produce 480 SOM Cruise Missiles for the Turkish Armed Forces
also 560+ TAYFUN and 1.000+ km CENK Ballistic Missiles for strategic strike capability
even Turkiye can fire 360 km BORA tactical Ballistic Missiles and 280 km ATMACA Cruise Missiles from dozens of Ships to hit naval and air bases from the Eastern Mediterranean
as like Israeli concept
also 700 km SUPER SIMSEK kamikaze Drone with 35-50 kg warhead and speed of mach 0.9 to hit enemy Air Defense Systems
even I am not talking about upcoming projects like 800 km KARGI anti-radiation Drone and 1.000 km GEZGIN strategic Cruise Missile
Egypt only can watch Turkish missile strikes on TV .... nothing else
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MMM-E
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Turkish Armed Forces have the best experience to fight against hybrid war against multi national allies and their terrorists-proxies in Turkiye .İraq . Syria . Libya and in the Eastern Mediterranean
Egyptian Army could not match with even 1.000 ISIS terrorist in Sinai
Egypt is not a real military power ..... not even close
Monkey model weapons can not do anything in a large scale - long term war
F-16s without AIM-120 BVR air to Air Missiles
F-16s without land attack Cruise Missiles
RAFALEs without METEOR BVR air to Air Missiles
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MMM-E
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We prefer 1.000 Turkish UCAVs instead of 1.000 lame duck easy target Tanks
Turkish UCAVs can destroy enemy Tanks from 20-30-40-60- 80-150-180 km away with cost effective missiles and guided munitions
Turkish Army can destroy enemy Tanks even from 30-70-150 km away
Thanks to TRLG-122 and TRLG-230 laser guided MLRS ...... Only Turkiye in NATO
Egypt only can dream about these technologies
even AKINCI UCAV carry 150+ km IHA-230 supersonic Missile with speed of up to mach 4 to hit Air Defense Systems
even 60 km ALPAGUT kamikaze Drone with 11kg warhead is enough to destroy enemy Tanks
even I am not talking about 20-50 km Turkish LUMTAS-GM block1/2 long range anti-Tank Missiles
only Turkiye and Israel in the region
Turkish Military technologies and capabilities are so superior to Egypt even to India
Turkiye is one of a few Countries in the world with active protection System to protect Tanks
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Pingle
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I appreciate your complete faith in Turkiye made systems but you are the one who don't give opposition even a room for argument..... just because AKDOGON, BOKDOGON, ATMACA, KAAN is Turkiye made they become invincible for you......
My friend in real war things do not go as per your thumb rule calculations..... Egypt didn't get Meteor with F3 versions but they surely getting with their next batch F4 versions.,... also storm shadow they got in 100s and this is well known fact..... they still got MICA NG a very deadly missiles against Turkish older F16s..... not to mention those crazy MiG-29 M2s, Fremms..... even USA citizen won't boast about his nation the way you keep boasting about Turkiye.....
Do you have operational stealth bombers like USA?
Do you have operational nuclear SSBNs and SSNs like USA or France?
Do you have ICBMS in the class of DF41, Minuteman or Topol?
Do you have operational Bluewater navy with ACs and nuclear submarines?
USA, China, Russia all have this but still see how much precautions they take even against North Korea type countries...... but for you Turkiye can decimate any country.... send drones, robotic army and GAME OVER.....
RedBeard
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For Turks, İsrael is nothing but a little cockroach, terror state which will be smashed soon or later. They are not the problem it is US and protection of the collective west altogether. Right now any country touching Israel must be able to deal with a modern day crusade against 30 countries incl US. Unless we’re ready for this (just like in the past as our ancestors with the Seljuks, Ottomans crushed and wiped out crusader armies 7 times) we will strengthen our country to reach that point again. You dont attack when you’re in a weaker position you will get whacked its simple as that.
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MMM-E
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Turkiye spent $5.4 billion for network centric Warfare capability in 2011- 2015
-- 163 F-16s for CCIP modernization $3.9 billion
-- 4 Boeing E-7T AEWC $1,5 billion
120km AIM-120C7 is far better than 60 km MICA air to air Missile
and Turkish F-16s can use E-7T AEWC AESA Radar to detect RAFALE from 350km away and to guide 120km AIM-120C7 missiles for BVR combat
Turkish Air Force is more than you know
Even I am not talking about Turkish 200 km GOKHAN ramjet powered long range air to air missile project
on the other hand Egypt never will get METEOR Missile while Turkiye buys 160 km AIM-120D ( C8 ) air to air missile from the USA
even 100+ km Turkish GOKDOGAN BVR air to air Missile is ready for mass production
FREMM Frigates armed with only 16 ASTER-15 SAMs with range of 30 km which can not match with even Turkish UCAV fleet fire power
Only Turkiye in NATO
150 km CAKIR anti-ship Missiles for swarm attack
and Turkiye can fire 10 KGK-SİHA-82 guided Bombs in price of 1 HARPOON anti-ship Missile
Cost effective and lethal solution
Range : 60+ km from UCAVs
Warhead : 230 kg
Seeker : RF seeker for anti-ship role
Even I am not talking about 80-180-200-280-700 km TOLUN-IIR , KUZGUN-TJ , KEMANKES , SOM and SUPER SIMSEK for upcoming fire power
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MMM-E
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useless weapon in a conventional war
useless weapon in a conventional war
We have seen Russia in Ukraine
All nuclear Weapons , ICBMs , Nuclear Submarines are useless
and Russia begged UCAVs , Kamikaze Drones and guided munitions from Iran
Nobody can use nuclear weapons
And I am talking about Egypt which lacks everything you mentioned
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Pingle
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Then why are you actually promoting Turkey to go nuclear on some other thread???
I know all this hypocrisy..... the moment you guys test nuclear devices with ICBMs capabilities suddenly these weapons will no more be useless.....
MMM-E
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119 F-16 Block70 Fighter Jets to protect the balance of power
Egyptian Air Force
-- 54 RAFALE Fighter Jets armed with 60 km MICA air to air Missiles
-- 43 MIG-29M2 armed with 80 km RVV-AE air to air Missiles
Turkish Air Force
-- to buy 40 new F-16 block70 ( 32 F-16C and 8 F-16D )
-- to modernize 79 existing F-16s to V-Configuration
AN/APG-83 AESA Scalable Agile Beam Radar
Integrated Viper Electronic Warfare Suite (IVEWS)
-- 952 Advanced Air-to-Air Missiles (AMRAAM) AIM-120C-8 for BVR combat
F-16V can carry 10 x AIM-120D ( C8 ) air to air Missiles with range of 160 km
Network centric warfare capability
Turkish Air Force has 4 Boeing E-7T AEWC with 600 km AESA Radar
E-7T AEWC can detect RAFALE . F-16 . MIG-29M2 from 350 km away and to guide 160 km AIM-120C8 air to air Missiles for BVR combat
Egyptian Air Force
-- 54 RAFALE Fighter Jets armed with 60 km MICA air to air Missiles
-- 43 MIG-29M2 armed with 80 km RVV-AE air to air Missiles
Turkish Air Force
-- to buy 40 new F-16 block70 ( 32 F-16C and 8 F-16D )
-- to modernize 79 existing F-16s to V-Configuration
AN/APG-83 AESA Scalable Agile Beam Radar
Integrated Viper Electronic Warfare Suite (IVEWS)
-- 952 Advanced Air-to-Air Missiles (AMRAAM) AIM-120C-8 for BVR combat
F-16V can carry 10 x AIM-120D ( C8 ) air to air Missiles with range of 160 km
Network centric warfare capability
Turkish Air Force has 4 Boeing E-7T AEWC with 600 km AESA Radar
E-7T AEWC can detect RAFALE . F-16 . MIG-29M2 from 350 km away and to guide 160 km AIM-120C8 air to air Missiles for BVR combat
