Türkiye unveils exclusive details of future TF-2000-class destroyer

[MMM-E]

Even the concept of combat drones first came from China.

Nice CGI

 

[MMM-E]

China has FH-97A(2022) and MD-22(2022) and AVIC Dark Sword(2006)

The difference is China has less publication than Turkiye in military plane development.

China has nothing ... except CGI and mock up

American Kratos XQ-58 Valkyrie is a small loyal Wingman

USA doesnt have unmanned stealth Fighter Jet like Turkish KIZILELMA

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[NGAD IS THE BEST]

Honey. I don't know why you insist on "Airbus doesn't use Chinese parts". Or "The Airbus factory in Tianjin, China, doesn't use Chinese parts."

China can build bombers. AWACS. Air tankers. Transport aircraft and anti-submarine aircraft...... Do you think China can't build passenger planes without using Western parts? ? ?

Man. There are some things that are important. ~International market and airworthiness certificate.....

Even though Türkiye is a NATO country. But you should know. NATO likes nothing more than to use technology to manipulate its members. NATO likes to use technology to limit its members to "a certain level"

You're trolling and nothing else this thread not for civilian Turkish aircraft debate, this thread is Turkish upcoming TF-2000 Destroyer with off topic and nonsense discussion

So I recommend mods to ban you from this thread

@Waz @@GriffinsRule @Musings please ban @GreatHanWarrior from this thread

 

[Pioneer]

You're trolling and nothing else this thread not for civilian Turkish aircraft debate, this thread is Turkish upcoming TF-2000 Destroyer with off topic and nonsense discussion

So I recommend mods to ban you from this thread

@Waz @@GriffinsRule @Musings please ban @GreatHanWarrior from this thread

same. This is also not a thread discussing fighter jets.


@Waz @GriffinsRule @Musings Please permanently ban @White and Green with M/S He has been viciously slandering and attacking other members.

 

[Pioneer]

China has nothing ... except CGI and mock up

American Kratos XQ-58 Valkyrie is a small loyal Wingman

USA doesnt have unmanned stealth Fighter Jet like Turkish KIZILELMA

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nice copy J-20.

 

[MMM-E]

but not in par yet with France or UK as they can build large passenger planes with Airbus, advanced in engine technology (Rolls royce, Snecma, Safrant, Eurojet), and is developing 6th gen fighters.

We care about military aviation industry

and Turkiye has also started developing the 6th gen Fighter
France and The UK doesnt have even 5th gen yet
French FCAS for 2050

35.000 lbf turbofan Engine under development .... and will be ready for test flights in 2028

Turkiye entered turbofan engine technology Countries

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[Pioneer]

About UAV this kind of low-end aviation product. China and the United States seldom brag about it.

 

[Antonius123]

China has nothing ... except CGI and mock up

LOL. You dont know doesnt mean China doesnt have, because China is doing with minimum publication unlike turkey in fact the Chinese fighter drone has flight much earlier than Kizilelma.

What make you think small country like Turkiye with limited budget and less talent pool and less experience could have better aviation technology than US and China who are competing each other investing hugely in order to be at forefront?

American Kratos XQ-58 Valkyrie is a small loyal Wingman

USA doesnt have unmanned stealth Fighter Jet like Turkish KIZILELMA

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What make you think Kizilelma is more capable than loyal Wingman?

 

[MMM-E]

LOL. You dont know doesnt mean China doesnt have, because China is doing with minimum publication like turkey in fact the Chinese fighter drone has flight much earlier than Kizilelma.

No any Video from so-called Chinese one

and Turkish System enter mass production in 2024
Chinese one still nowhere

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

same. This is also not a thread discussing fighter jets.


@Waz @GriffinsRule @Musings Please permanently ban @White and Green with M/S He has been viciously slandering and attacking other members.

And you bring nonsense pessenger stuff to this thread and I'm answering to @MMM-E, do have any problem with this

 

[MMM-E]

What make you think small country like Turkiye with limited budget and less talent pool and less experience has better aviation technology than US and China who are competing each other investing hugely in order to be at forefront?

Same false flager troll team
Israel is also small but Israel gave Fighter Jet technology to China over LAVI

J10C = Israeli LAVI

About UAV this kind of low-end aviation product. China and the United States seldom brag about it.

not UAV
Its unmanned stealth Fighter Jet and technology of future

 

[Antonius123]

We care about military aviation industry

and Turkiye has also started developing the 6th gen Fighter
France and The UK doesnt have even 5th gen yet
French FCAS for 2050

35.000 lbf turbofan Engine under development .... and will be ready for test flights in 2028

Turkiye entered turbofan engine technology Countries

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France/UK/Germany they dont have 5th gen fighter doesnt mean they dont have the technology, besides we dont know the stealth performance of KAAN yet.

The 35K lbf turbofan in 2028 is still underpower compared to current F135 and WS-15 (40K lbf) and the TWR is still below that of current EJ200.

 

[lacy]

So much pissing contest. Pages of meaningless arguments and trolling. Is this the standard of this forum?

 

[Musings]

nice copy J-20.

Stop winding other members up and attempting to troll. Last warning

 

[Antonius123]

Same false flager troll team
Israel is also small but Israel gave Fighter Jet technology to China over LAVI

J10C = Israeli LAVI

In fact currently Israel is behind China in fighter jet technology.

And regarding J-10C = Israel Lavi is just rumour because of certain similarity between them.

Besides, perhaps 30/40 years ago Israel was more advanced than China but that is no wonder because China budget and talent 40 years ago was poor.

not UAV
Its unmanned stealth Fighter Jet and technology of future

Those are unmanned stealth fighter, they can launch A2A missile, even Feihong can bring 8 AAM and it's speed is supersonic while Kizilelma is still just subsonic.