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But IL has one thing that Türkiye does not have and that is the unconditional support of the US and its MIC.

Turkiye has its own defense Industry
We just need a little more time to complete all military projects

Israel will be always dependent on USA and American protection
on the other hand , Turkiye becomes independent real military power
 
The thread is slightly misleading. Will it really be Israel/Türkiye or Israel + Greece + Cyprus vs Türkiye ?

You only have to see the Israeli radars in Greece and Cyprus to see the integration going on.
 
Israel can not destroy Turkiye

Israel can not invade Turkiye

Israel can not seize Cyprus

Israel can not even destroy the Turkish Navy

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Together with the USA, Israel couldn't deal with Iran


The US won't attack NATO member Türkiye.
and Israel can't do anything to Türkiye without USA
 
"Calling for the strengthening of the Israeli navy, Siboni drew attention to Turkey's strong naval capacity, saying that if Ankara wishes, "They could even cut off our access to the sea."

This is actually the big one. If Isrealis were to engage in a war similar to what they engaged against Iran, access to the seas will be closed to them.

The Turkish Submarine fleet will need to be expanded, both for strategic launch as well as an Anti Ship role.

Honestly with the evolving warfare, I don't know how long surface ships will last in a conflict. with the advent of anti ship missiles and air power.
 
The Turkish Submarine fleet will need to be expanded, both for strategic launch as well as an Anti Ship role.

14 AIP Submarines ( 6 REIS and 8 MILDEN ) in the future plan
( more than Israel+Greece combined )
-- Greece : 4 Type-214 class AIP Submarines
-- Israel : 3 Dolphin-II class AIP Submarines

also Turkiye produces STM-500 mini attack Submarines ( 49 m )
to carry 4 AKYA heavyweight torpedos and 4 ATMACA anti-ship Missiles
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Turkiye is extending its UCAV doctrine to the sea and underwater as well

Turkiye develops unmanned attack Submarines and kamikaze Underwater Vehicles


KILIC-200 Kamikaze Autonomous Underwater Vehicle ( range of 200 nm )
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STM TENGIZ to carry Torpedos
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DATUM's Multi-purpose Mini Submarine CAMD to carry 2 AKYA and 6 ORKA Torpedoes
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SINARIT XLUUV ( Large-Scale Unmanned Underwater Vehicle ) to carry 2 ATMACA anti-ship Missiles
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Nothing can survive in the Eastern Mediterranean
100 unmanned attack Submarines will be enough to sink their navies combined
 
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Honestly with the evolving warfare, I don't know how long surface ships will last in a conflict. with the advent of anti ship missiles and air power.

8 ISTIF class Frigates have limited SAM power ( 16 cells VLS each )

Turkiye should focus on 8 TF-2000 Destroyers / TF-2000 Batch-2 Frigates to dominate the Eastern Mediterranean

96 cells VLS to carry 80 mix of SIPER-2 and HISAR-D RF SAMs
also GOKDENIZ 35 mm CIWS
and 20 x GOKSUR-100N point defense missiles

This would create a de facto "no-fly zone" effect
Approaching Aircraft would be threatened from long range, and even stand-off weapons would be stopped by layered defense

even to prevent F-35s from approaching Turkish airspace

FUTURE is ours
 

This article is useless, it doesn't say anything new other than the same S-400 stuff. We already know that. When the S-400s are transferred to the UAE, then we will see. Turkey just needs those 6 F-35s in storage transferred, the rest of the element can be negotiated later.
 
This article is useless, it doesn't say anything new other than the same S-400 stuff. We already know that. When the S-400s are transferred to the UAE, then we will see. Turkey just needs those 6 F-35s in storage transferred, the rest of the element can be negotiated later.
It's not made.
There is a global headache between NATO and Turkey...
What do you want Turket make with just 6 jets ? if not to copy and paste it.... something in the US top brass minds.
 
Statement from Israeli Defense Minister Katz on Turkiye


Katz was asked to what extent the U.S. increasingly viewing Turkiye as a partner and considering the sale of F-35s is a source of concern for Israel

Katz: “We are responsible for our own interests. We know how we will act in line with our interests. Currently, there is no direct conflict between Israel and Turkiye

We have no desire to enter into such a process at this time. Turkiye should not have such a desire either.

Because our strength is in place, and we wouldn't even blink.
We know how to protect ourselves, and we are strong; don't mess with us. We are fulfilling the requirements of our own interests and will continue to do so.”

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It's not made.
There is a global headache between NATO and Turkey...
What do you want Turket make with just 6 jets ? if not to copy and paste it.... something in the US top brass minds.

"Its not made"

What do you mean its not made? Its sitting in a Hanger mothballed. Turkey only needs to take delivery of it. The only thing that would be needed to operationalize them is a software update.

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There is a global headache between NATO and Turkey...

Yes, and all of it is being fixed right now, with the F-35 being the last element that needs fixing.

There is no issue in NATO, only an issue with the EU b/c of Greece's and Cyprus veto and sabotage. Even France is cooperating. There were several deals signed with Safran on Baykar collaboration. France also wants to build SAMP-T Interceptors in Turkey b/c of Turkey industrial base is better for cheaper mass production and far more complete supply chains that don't require imports from China for things that Europe outsourced b/c it couldn't sustain the industry in EU.

What do you want Turket make with just 6 jets ?

Lot of things. For one thing once the 6 jets are transferred, in terms of the psychological effect of the sanctions being over, would be finished. It would also be very difficult to deny future F-35 sales and participation b/c the rabbit would be out of the bag per se. All this stuff about "It will be compromised b/c of Russia" would not work, b/c F-35s would be in Turkish pocession. And after its already been transferred, there is no debate over denying Turkey strategic weapons, b/c it would have already happened.

The beauty of these 6 F-35s is that they don't need congressional approval, b/c whats preventing them is not a sale. The sale is already done, the Govt of the United States recognizes them as Turkish F-35s, Turkey even pays the maintenance fees for the hanger they are currently being kept in. The only thing preventing the transfer is the CAATSA sanctions implemented, and the law says, that if the S-400s are gone, then the President is allowed to transfer.

So basically whats stopping the F-35s from being transferred is how quickly cn Turkey get rid of the S-400s from Turkey, and how quickly is dependent on how fast this sale and transfer with the UAE will take, and how fast that happens is dependent on the agreement being done with the UAE, and how fast Russia gives approval.

We will see how fast all this happens by the end of the year. Ideally I would hope Turkey does this before next year when there is a new congress, so no new sabotage laws/legislation is passed, and Trump is able to transfer quickly.

once they are in Turkey, then the real negotiations will begin on the reentry of Turkey back into the F-35s production and maintenance, as well as more sales of more jets.
 
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Turks need nukes...Even a blind can see that.

And even more blind person can see that the only way to acquire nukes faster is - is the saudi way - Strategic Defence Pact with Pakistan.

Hopefully Turks won't sleep on nukes like Iranians.

Had Iranians have Nukes today, they wouldn't have been attacked.

If I were a Turk now - I would acquire nukes from Pakistan immediately - Only 2 nukes are enough for Zionists and then would take on Zionists more openly straight away, right now, rather than allow these bastards to plan and bring war to my doorstep 5 years later down the road.

Don't let these Zionists recover.

Zionist plate is full as of now and they are at their weakest. Even in USA, they are struggling. They have run out of gas and are desperate for even tiniest support

Maybe Al-Aqsa Mosque, who these bastards abuse/desecrate regularly, is calling Turks, again.

Glory to Turks

Long Live Islam
 
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Turks need nukes...Even a blind can see that.

And even more blind person can see that the only way to acquire nukes faster is - is the saudi way - Strategic Defence Pact with Pakistan.

Hopefully Turks won't sleep on nukes like Iranians.

Had Iranians have Nukes today, they wouldn't have been attacked.

If I were a Turk now - I would acquire nukes from Pakistan immediately - Only 2 nukes are enough for Zionists and then would take on Zionists more openly straight away, right now, rather than allow these bastards to plan and bring war to my doorstep 5 years later down the road.

Don't let these Zionists recover.

Zionist plate is full as of now and they are at their weakest. Even in USA, they are struggling. They have run out of gas and are desperate for even tiniest support

Maybe Al-Aqsa Mosque, who these bastards abuse/desecrate regularly, is calling Turks, again.

Glory to Turks

Long Live Islam


Turks must understand that Isreal will bring the anglo-american world with them and the lessor europeans. If Turks keep thinking of Isreal is just Isreal then they will humiliate themselves and the religion the same way the arabs have done and the iranians are currently doing.

And I would argue moving forward its imperative all Muslim nations get nuclear weapons. Otherwise one by one they will be destroyed by the usual suspects.
 

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