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[MS Sandhu]

Israels strategy wont be direct confrontation ot will be economic and using others as proxies like Kurds, Greeks, Cypriots to do its dirty work. Israel is a coward nation it only preys on the weak and when it attacks needs whole west supporting it.

Bro smoking some strong shit.

 

[lightning f57]

Bro smoking some strong shit.

You going to troll or post something constructive

 

[Watandar]

Although tangential, this BBC report will interest both Turkey and Israel. It is about Trump considering cutting off funding to Iraqi Kurdish militias like the Peshmerga.

Archive link : https://archive.ph/6vXYn

 

[Foinikas]

You going to troll or post something constructive

Did you post something constructive? You just said Israel's using everyone as a proxy.

 

[Oscar]

Did you post something constructive? You just said Israel's using everyone as a proxy.

TBH he isnt wrong in that is the zionist's preferred modus operandi.
So if there is already historical baggage between Turkiye and Greece that makes for a great "alliance of convenience" even if the net result is not what Greece(or Turkiye) need at this time... what do they care?

 

[Oscar]

That's another misconception. They did go against Iran and I don't think Iran is a weak country. Those operations had risks. But the Israelis don't start something without good intelligence. Also,again I have to remind you that claims of "being a coward nation" are not valid. Because they've taken on some of the strongest Arab countries in their history. 1948-1982. It's not bias,it's just a fact.

While one could argue that is true -
Whenever Israel has taken on such efforts it hasalmost never done it as an isolated, self-sufficient power. 1956 was a joint UK–France–Israel operation. 1973 turned on a U.S. airlift once Soviet resupply to Egypt and Syria kicked in. After that, U.S. aid became the baseline. 1967 is the exception on the battlefield, but even that war was fought with French jets and Western political cover. “David vs Goliath” is a slogan because the logistics were never that simple.

 

[Foinikas]

TBH he isnt wrong in that is the zionist's preferred modus operandi.
So if there is already historical baggage between Turkiye and Greece that makes for a great "alliance of convenience" even if the net result is not what Greece(or Turkiye) need at this time... what do they care?

They don't,but it's also like you said,an alliance of convienience for us too. Although to be perfectly honest I'd prefer the French and would want and still want the French to have a strong alliance and ties with us. But since things went south(literally and figuretively)with our geopolitical strategy...well at least let's get whatever Israeli defence system and ToT we can,because I'm sure as soon as the government changes in Turkey and becomes friendly to Israel again,the Jews will suddenly forget all the "shalom my friend".

 

[Oscar]

They don't,but it's also like you said,an alliance of convienience for us too. Although to be perfectly honest I'd prefer the French and would want and still want the French to have a strong alliance and ties with us. But since things went south(literally and figuretively)with our geopolitical strategy...well at least let's get whatever Israeli defence system and ToT we can,because I'm sure as soon as the government changes in Turkey and becomes friendly to Israel again,the Jews will suddenly forget all the "shalom my friend".

Who doesnt what? The zionist dont use proxies or greece is not a proxy?

 

[Foinikas]

Who doesnt what? The zionist dont use proxies or greece is not a proxy?

They use proxies,but we're not acting as a proxy. We're at what you said,an alliance of convenience. It's basically the geopolitical events that turned it to that. It's not even a proper alliance,just a kind of "approach". Because the Greeks,most political parties and vast majority of the people,are staunchly against participating,supporting or helping in any way whatever Israeli "adventures" or wars against neighboring Arab countries or further east.

 

[Oscar]

They use proxies,but we're not acting as a proxy. We're at what you said,an alliance of convenience. It's basically the geopolitical events that turned it to that. It's not even a proper alliance,just a kind of "approach". Because the Greeks,most political parties and vast majority of the people,are staunchly against participating,supporting or helping any Israeli "adventures" or wars against neighboring Arab countries or further east.

Think of the argument here - you may not be wanting to act as a proxy but even in an alliance of convenience the focus of Israel is to hurt Turkiye at its time therefore "by proxy" you have helped that cause.

Whether it suits you or not is a case of converging interests - but it would not stop any activities that go well beyond your understanding of "convenience" because in Greece's case the economy is a huge driver these days of finding convenience and compromising even when not aligned in principle. Once you are useful, the other side will use you past the line you drew. Intent does not cancel effect. If the effect is enabling pressure on Turkiye or bypassing impacts of Gaza & Iran conflict, you are in the game, even if most Greeks would rather not be.

 

[PK781]

Best way to defeat israel is to defeat aipac first and target american traitors who spoon feed israel everything. Once israel is separated from a special relationship with america then they are open for target practice.

this is not possible now. All systems, mechanisms and personnel are compromised. Not just as persons, but the systems/devices everyone uses these days, its all compromised and mossad has backdoors into all those softwares and hardwares, and they can use the indians and american companies and workers for this purpose very easily.

And israel will happily sink america/europe for its greater zionist plan of greater israel, they wont give a shit about america/americans or eu at all.

Laptops will close in USA, and Re-open in TelAviv/Jerusalem. Easy stuff and that will be it.

Turkey will be out of NATO soon and the EU/NATO won't come to its aid anyway if israel decides to go for it. Just maybe some token lip services, excuses about economy and lack of personnel (ukraine war) and shit like that.

Turkiye is the next target, they best prepare well and hard.
The middle east is going to be a war zone for decades now

 

[Foinikas]

Think of the argument here - you may not be wanting to act as a proxy but even in an alliance of convenience the focus of Israel is to hurt Turkiye at its time therefore "by proxy" you have helped that cause.

Whether it suits you or not is a case of converging interests - but it would not stop any activities that go well beyond your understanding of "convenience" because in Greece's case the economy is a huge driver these days of finding convenience and compromising even when not aligned in principle. Once you are useful, the other side will use you past the line you drew. Intent does not cancel effect. If the effect is enabling pressure on Turkiye or bypassing impacts of Gaza & Iran conflict, you are in the game, even if most Greeks would rather not be.

The thing is though,it's actually not Israel pushing it. It's openly the Turks rising tensions between us again after 2,5 years of relative calm. Suddenly we have Turkish UAVs flying close to Greek mainland and islands,F-16s and UAVs together violating Greek air space,
Erdogan announcing "sea parks" in what's been considered Greek areas for a century now,Mavi Vatan being mention all the time,new units being formed West Turkey opposite the islands...

 

[Pioneer]

What Israel is most powerful in is its public opinion ability and discourse power. I haven't seen any Muslim countries with similar levels.

 

[Oscar]

The thing is though,it's actually not Israel pushing it. It's openly the Turks rising tensions between us again after 2,5 years of relative calm. Suddenly we have Turkish UAVs flying close to Greek mainland and islands,F-16s and UAVs together violating Greek air space,
Erdogan announcing "sea parks" in what's been considered Greek areas for a century now,Mavi Vatan being mention all the time,new units being formed West Turkey opposite the islands...

The “sea parks” story did not start with Erdogan last week. Greece declared its own marine parks in 2025. Airspace is the same old 6 versus 10 nautical mile argument dressed up as an invasion. Greece claims 10nm of airspace over 6nm of sea. Even Washington does not buy that. A lot of what gets logged as a “violation” is Turkey flying in the band.
During those 2.5 years of “relative calm,”Achilles Shield, Israeli batteries on islands Turkey still calls demilitarised, Greek F-16s tanking off Israeli aircraft in the Aegean, noise about 12nm knowing it is still casus belli in the Turkish parliament... so here you're pushing your narrative and the Turks can push theirs.

Relative calm is a term in territorial disputes... you did something to their something so they did something more and so on and so forth.

 

[lightning f57]

Did you post something constructive? You just said Israel's using everyone as a proxy.

Not everyone, dont exaggerate. I mentioned who they are using as proxies. I dont troll not my style.