UK Racism against Muslims and Brown people

[RescueRanger]

...........there is NOTHING more to be said.

Exactly... Now get back to the topic about racism...

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Exactly... Now get back to the topic about racism...

In order to fight racism, we need to become racially powerful and AVOID race-mixing with ANYONE who is not a part of our community, Muslim or not.

 

[RescueRanger]

In order to fight racism, we need to become racially powerful and AVOID race-mixing with ANYONE who is not a part of our community, Muslim or not.

That my friend is the epitomy of racism.

Like I said... Get back on topic about racism against browns and Muslims in the UK. Who you wish to start a family with is none of my business neither is or any of your concern who someone else elects to start a family with.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

That my friend is the epitomy of racism.

Like I said... Get back on topic about racism against browns and Muslims in the UK. Who you wish to start a family with is none of my business neither is or any of your concern who someone else elects to start a family with.

Couldn't care less. My concern is to strengthen and increase the power of the uk Pakistani community and to protect it. Race-mixing and the associated filth will ONLY weaken our community and race. It will also make us more susceptible to being destroyed by our enemies and the white english racists.

 

[RescueRanger]

Couldn't care less. My concern is to strengthen and increase the power of the uk Pakistani community and to protect it. Race-mixing and the associated filth will ONLY weaken our community and race. It will also make us more susceptible to being destroyed by our enemies and the white english racists.

I still don't see what the hell that has to do with the topic being discussed. I have asked you three times now to get back on topic. Take a hint bahi.

Your take is pretty L.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

I still don't see what the hell that has to do with the topic being discussed. I have asked you three times now to get back on topic. Take a hint bahi.

Your take is pretty L.

So what is your strategy in trying to combat racism against the uk Pakistani community? Would it not involve strengthening to the uk Pakistani community and erasing problems that can weaken us?

 

[RescueRanger]

So what is your strategy in trying to combat racism against the uk Pakistani community? Would it not involve strengthening to the uk Pakistani community and erasing problems that can weaken us?

Through education, opportunities and social mobility. Pakistanis are a minority within a minority, you counter narratives through educated discourses, through positive role models and building soft power.

Anything else is not going to be productive or effective in the long term.

 

[safriz]

Aren't we called third world for shepherding women and shaming them for showing interest in men , the men of their own culture don't approve of ?
This is Scotland where a random guy is shaming a woman for dating a migrant.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Through education, opportunities and social mobility. Pakistanis are a minority within a minority, you counter narratives through educated discourses, through positive role models and building soft power.

Anything else is not going to be productive or effective in the long term.

What would you do about nullifying the physical threat? If the far-right turn up and decide to physically assault Pakistani women and kids then what do we do? Do we let it happen? Do we make sure our young are physically strong and well versed in martial arts/combat skills so we can fight back and protect ourselves? Pakistanis have a right to defend ourselves.

PS Does soft power and discourse really help? It didn't really help the Palestinians in Gaza. Only power and strength help.

 

[RescueRanger]

What would you do about nullifying the physical threat? If the far-right turn up and decide to physically assault Pakistani women and kids then what do we do? Do we let it happen? Do we make sure our young are physically strong and well versed in martial arts/combat skills so we can fight back and protect ourselves? Pakistanis have a right to defend ourselves.

PS Does soft power and discourse really help? It didn't really help the Palestinians in Gaza. Only power and strength help.

Copy the Jewish CST model, hire expensive lawyers, pursue private prosecutions. Help develop and drive policy, engage with multiple stake holders.

This isn't "Gangs of New York".

 

[Yasser76]

Copy the Jewish CST model, hire expensive lawyers, pursue private prosecutions. Help develop and drive policy, engage with multiple stake holders.

This isn't "Gangs of New York".

Jews used their brains to protect themselves and their communities in UK and US, Pakistanis should do the same. Am proud our boys can defend themselves, but longer term you are 100% right on this. Look how they have weaponised "Anti-Semitism" and look how well cohesive their communities are (Orthadox, not liberal)

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Copy the Jewish CST model, hire expensive lawyers, pursue private prosecutions. Help develop and drive policy, engage with multiple stake holders.

This isn't "Gangs of New York".

In the long run yes, but what about the immediate physical threat? We need hard men with excellent martial arts/combat skills to be able to defend our women and children from the real physical threats posed by the far-right racists. In fact, I believe ALL Pakistani males over the age of 18 should be training in the gym and learning martial arts skills.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Aren't we called third world for shepherding women and shaming them for showing interest in men , the men of their own culture don't approve of ?
This is Scotland where a random guy is shaming a woman for dating a migrant.

The truth is, NO man wants to see the women of his race dating or breeding with men of other races and religions. It's natural human instinct.

 

[Master Chief]

You hit the nail on the head. I've been meeting women to court - and I have luck, but I am running into a very specific problem, liberal Pakistani women who drink, has have intimate physical relationships with Whites and non-Muslims/Pakistani men.

I have a very strong filter but still I try to give them the benefit of the doubt so my conscious is clear. I have pre-filters which unfortunately have worked all too well and kinda making me a little comprehension about continuing with the process.

I Talked to someone through a matchmaker recently. Expected more traditional and grounded given the setup, but the lifestyle and history didn’t line up — drinking, dated outside the faith, and overall more progressive than I wanted. Ended it once that was clear.

It reminded me why a lot of us feel a certain way when women from our own background date outside and then look to settle inside. It reads like the outside options were preferred when available and the in-group is the later, safer choice. Doesn’t feel equal, especially when the norms are stricter on our side. Same pattern shows up with a lot of the white and Muslim guys I know; less so in some other groups for different historical and religious reasons.

Anyway, filter worked. Moving on.

It’s general enough that nothing identifies her, while still covering the main points.
Here’s a clean bullet list of the signs:

Visual / Appearance

• Nose ring

• Bleached blonde hair

• Blue or light-colored contacts

• Heavy glam makeup and polished “Instagram” styling

• Revealing or fashion-forward clothing (tight dresses, leather pants, off-shoulder tops, feather pieces, etc.)

• Visible tan lines while claiming to be pious

Photos & Social Presentation

• Pictures in bars, lounges, rooftop bars, or nightlife settings

• High-end shopping or luxury-brand photos

• Frequent “getting dolled up” or party photos

• Travel photos from places like Bali or Miami

Lifestyle & Profile Claims

• Profile says “practicing Muslim” / “faith is my greatest strength” while photos show the opposite aesthetic

• Drinks (even “sometimes” or “a cocktail/wine”)

• Liberal or progressive politics listed

• Sound-bowl, wellness, or new-age class mentions

• Sorority or heavy non-Muslim friend group

Dating & Behavior

• History of dating outside the faith or culture (Hindu, White, etc.)

• Still on dating apps while talking

• Okay with talking to multiple people at once

• Low religious practice (doesn’t pray, treats Islamic boundaries as optional)

• Quick repositioning toward “traditional” or in-group options after a more liberal phase

These are the markers that have repeatedly clustered together for me.

I've learned through my own feelings and reading ton of material on this:
Men often hold women from their own group to a stricter standard on dating outside because those women represent the group’s continuity, status, and norms in a way out-group women do not.

Core reasons

In-group women carry the group’s status.

When a woman from the same background dates outside and later returns to settle inside, many men read it as her having preferred the outside options when they were available, with the in-group man becoming the safer or more practical choice later. That ranking feels like a status loss for the group. An out-group woman’s past doesn’t implicate the group at all.

Loyalty and reciprocity expectations.

Men typically face stronger social penalties for dating outside their group. Women often face fewer. When an in-group woman dates outside and then wants an in-group man for marriage or stability, it can feel like she benefited from looser rules while the men who stayed inside the norms are treated as the default later option. Out-group women were never under those same expectations.

Paternity, selectivity, and long-term investment.

Men are more sensitive to cues about a woman’s past selectivity. A history of out-group relationships raises questions (fair or not) about whether the later in-group choice is genuine preference or a practical fallback. This concern is stronger for in-group women because they are expected to transmit the group’s identity and values. Out-group women don’t carry that same weight.

Group continuity.

In communities that value endogamy (ethnic, religious, or cultural), in-group women are treated as carriers of that continuity. Dating outside and returning is often seen as free-riding on the group’s cohesion. The same behavior from an outsider doesn’t threaten that continuity.

This pattern shows up across many different groups (ethnic, religious, national) because the underlying incentives are similar: in-group women are held to higher loyalty and purity standards precisely because they are viewed as representing the group’s future in a way outsiders are not.

Humble request, having heard many legendary tales of your adventures hitherto. Please do leave some females for the rest of us.

 

[safriz]

The truth is, NO man wants to see the women of his race dating or breeding with men of other races and religions. It's natural human instinct.

so..its not specific to "Third world" right ? As we been told for decades.
Likewise there is no such thing as "Mera jism meri merzi" ? Even in the west. Random men control who you can or cannot see.
Tell that to Pakistani women