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Minnesota dad who ranted against Trump election gunned down wife, ex-girlfriend and his 2 kids in murder-suicide​

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Isabel Keane
Published Nov. 10, 2024, 12:35 p.m. ET

A Minnesota dad who ranted against President-elect Donald Trump online shot and killed his wife, ex-partner, and his two sons before turning the gun on himself, according to authorities.

The shooter, 46-year-old Anthony Nephew, had a “pattern of mental health issues,” Duluth Police Chief Mike Ceynowa said on Friday — one day after authorities found five people dead inside two homes in the city.

 


In another post, he accused Republicans of “making it harder for women to leave” abusive relationships.
^^^^ This is classic Liberalism ^^^^^

The boogeyman is everybody else...but certainly not you...no way that can be the case.
:rolleyes:
 
I know and was expecting your response, we have had similar conversation before. And I agree that powerful empires or super power's have to do that to keep the status, and empires have done it in past, but to my argument we are suppose to be better, empires just invade neighbors for resources and colonize but they are not putting a fassade of bringing Freedom/liberty/democracy to them, at least you are decent enough to acknowledge that America is bullying the world to keep itself on top even if it means destroying countries and killing innocent people, the rest of American posters here are still see USA as some Captain America or Superman that stand for justice and right of humanity, which is all BS.

Well, Captain America isn't real, you know that, right?

The first thing in my Political Science class teaches me is actual democracy does not exist, because democracy means anyone with power have to willingly share their power, which in reality wouldn't happen, the closest we get to democracy is a decentralised government, you have different people in charge of different thing, so you keep the abuse to minimum and local.

Reality is something along the line of the famous Stanford Prison Experiment. (SPE), which was a study to determine how different variable affect people reaction, behaviour and decision making, all I can say is it ended badly with the people who chosen to be guard increasingly brutal abusing the people who were chosen as Prisoner once they were given power.


People abuse power, whenever you are given some power to rule over someone, most (not going to say all) abuse that power to some degree, and that infer to the countries we are living in, I don't believe in a just clause, other than you either react to something or you intervene from a prevention standpoint.

No Disagreement there too, big part of his second term he will try to pardon himself and make sure his name is clear for after the term ends, he won't be doing 25% of things he say he will, and his cornies will try to make whatever few things he will do as some sort History making change in USA, but with Trump in power the USA will be mostly likely be occupied with its internal issues, just like in his last term many of the Americans were on street protesting for many different things, and I hope that will bring a sigh of relief to the world and hopefully he won't start or expand wars in Middle east or other regions, and yes I know President is just a puppet figure and lobbies/establishment/deep state/congress/Military industrial complex runs the America and if they want more wars they will find a way to implement it but this time around a lot more " Liberal " will be out on streets protesting against his decisions, some who genuinely hate wars will be out, and than will be those who will be protesting against anything Trump or Republicans does. I would rather see US dealing with internal chaos (without any bloodshed) than the whole world plunges into senseless wars because of some BS religious ideology or bringing democracy to XYZ country.
Or he will start a war to divert internal pressure like the Argentina Junta who decided to invade the Falklands. Many analyst think, even right wing thinktank, think Trump should invade or attack Iran to back up the Israel, I will say he will probably 50/50 doing it.

And this time the "Liberal" won't line up the street and protest, they will either leave the country or just stand there and laugh at people who support Trump and said "I told you so". Those people who voted for Harris is the one that are better off, they don't really care about the issue at hand, but a lot of resentment for people who are desperate enough to vote for Trump.

Well, as I said before, I am going to watch this dumpster fire burn all the way in Australia. I mean, there is a reason why I left the US since the second Obama term. Not once did this country choose wisely since 2012. I don't expect it to change in the next 4 years. Second Obama term seal the fate of the Democrats which they WILL lose the 2016 election, because we ran too far to the left, and when we rebound, we got Trump, which went WAY to far to the right, and then come 2020, we got Biden, an absolute useless old man that way pass its prime, and now, we got Trump back, isn't it amazing?? Think about what if Romney had won the 2012 election?


Now this part is something I believe your fellow Americans should read, cause like I said they believe that America is some holier than thou and beacon of liberty and Justice which I always knew is just a fassade, yes America stands for some good things and played a major role in stopping major conflicts you have to give credit where its due, but even in that US is indirectly serving its own interest, and helping of Bosnian Muslims against the Serbs is best example, but this Palestine conflict is different as it tries to create an image of neutral party in the conflict, but this Genocide in Gaza has remove the veil of western hypocrisy of standing up for human rights everywhere, or women rights , or children and their education or people having right to independence.

I've followed this war from the very start, and to this day no American official including president or white house official has dared to answer that one simple question, Does a Palestinian have the right to defend itself or his family/property ? they can't say Yes, and that is embarrassing for a Super power and its institution to be scared to utter the word Yes, and I refused to believe its only USA interest or strategic ally BS, because any reasonable person or country can see that ditching one Israel for the many GCC countries serve American interest more, there is a strong religious aspect that drives US crazies who support the return of Jews to the holy land to build the temple even if it means slaughtering of innocent children, so its not just that " Israel is a strategic Partner " so we have to defend it, or Israel has US Military bases for Global spying etc, USA already have bases in Qatar, Kuwait, UAE, KSA, Egypt , Turkey etc so one less Israel or a base will not make any difference.

One part I disagree that, when you say if one wants USA to do something you have to make it their business is not true, USA despite being liberal/progressive country still hold a significant hate towards people of color and specially Arabs, and part of it is from the 9/11 that USA media has kept in its people alive which played a part in that hate, its not just about #neverforget, but such rhetoric has been deliberately kept alive, if 3000 dead Americans by a Organization was evil hence must be #neverforget than Millions of dead Muslims, 3-4 countries completely destroyed by America also calls for #neverforget but America expect rest of the world to just move on with the destruction USA did to their countries and people while they keep their 9/11 and hate related to that pretty alive, and I believe that this hate of Arabs or people of color is kept alive deliberately to justify future wars and Genocide in the name of "Terrorism" or "Right to defend" a satellite colony.
All I can say is, this isn't how Politics works. This is how activisms works, but this is not how people in politics will act. In activism, you fight for the right for the people you fight for, be it Muslim, Black, Asian, Disable, you name it, you start off as an equal setting.

In Politics, you are always going to choose one side over the other, I can tell you this, even if the Israeli was not lobbying the US, and US did intervene in Palestine, there will be another group (most likely the Jew, or some new age evangelical) that come up and do whatever you did or say whatever you said. There are no perfect solution in any political problem, if you act on one thing and not the other, then you get dink from the other, and you can't act on both, as in you can't support Israel and Palestine at the same time, what you see may be injustice, but someone other than you may see it differently, and in the end, the bigger voice (or the bigger stick) wins.
 
A great livestream to listen to, i order to understand how Biden and the Democratic establishment’s obstinate elitist (consultant and corporate class pandering) attitude has doomed the nation and the world to Trump.

Btw, I was a Bernie Bro, and regardless of how far I get in the this country, I wouldn’t want to take a tax cut to see my fellow Americans, especially those that can least afford it, suffer to make the billionaires richer and the nation worse off in the long run.

1973 was the year the difference between the richest and poorest was the smallest in America. So even though Trump doesn’t want to admit it, that is what people old enough to remember want to go back to, a country where an average America felt like they could breath easier.

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How democrats can comeback according to Hasan.
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^^^^ This is classic Liberalism ^^^^^

The boogeyman is everybody else...but certainly not you...no way that can be the case.
:rolleyes:

So my Liberal friend says he's against EVs and rockets now that Elon Musk supported Trump...basically "Cancel Culture" at work.

So I'm a moderate sitting between the Democrat/Republican camps and laughing at how ridiculous both are acting.
 
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I know and was expecting your response, we have had similar conversation before. And I agree that powerful empires or super power's have to do that to keep the status, and empires have done it in past, but to my argument we are suppose to be better, empires just invade neighbors for resources and colonize but they are not putting a fassade of bringing Freedom/liberty/democracy to them, at least you are decent enough to acknowledge that America is bullying the world to keep itself on top even if it means destroying countries and killing innocent people, the rest of American posters here are still see USA as some Captain America or Superman that stand for justice and right of humanity, which is all BS.


No Disagreement there too, big part of his second term he will try to pardon himself and make sure his name is clear for after the term ends, he won't be doing 25% of things he say he will, and his cornies will try to make whatever few things he will do as some sort History making change in USA, but with Trump in power the USA will be mostly likely be occupied with its internal issues, just like in his last term many of the Americans were on street protesting for many different things, and I hope that will bring a sigh of relief to the world and hopefully he won't start or expand wars in Middle east or other regions, and yes I know President is just a puppet figure and lobbies/establishment/deep state/congress/Military industrial complex runs the America and if they want more wars they will find a way to implement it but this time around a lot more " Liberal " will be out on streets protesting against his decisions, some who genuinely hate wars will be out, and than will be those who will be protesting against anything Trump or Republicans does. I would rather see US dealing with internal chaos (without any bloodshed) than the whole world plunges into senseless wars because of some BS religious ideology or bringing democracy to XYZ country.


Now this part is something I believe your fellow Americans should read, cause like I said they believe that America is some holier than thou and beacon of liberty and Justice which I always knew is just a fassade, yes America stands for some good things and played a major role in stopping major conflicts you have to give credit where its due, but even in that US is indirectly serving its own interest, and helping of Bosnian Muslims against the Serbs is best example, but this Palestine conflict is different as it tries to create an image of neutral party in the conflict, but this Genocide in Gaza has remove the veil of western hypocrisy of standing up for human rights everywhere, or women rights , or children and their education or people having right to independence.

I've followed this war from the very start, and to this day no American official including president or white house official has dared to answer that one simple question, Does a Palestinian have the right to defend itself or his family/property ? they can't say Yes, and that is embarrassing for a Super power and its institution to be scared to utter the word Yes, and I refused to believe its only USA interest or strategic ally BS, because any reasonable person or country can see that ditching one Israel for the many GCC countries serve American interest more, there is a strong religious aspect that drives US crazies who support the return of Jews to the holy land to build the temple even if it means slaughtering of innocent children, so its not just that " Israel is a strategic Partner " so we have to defend it, or Israel has US Military bases for Global spying etc, USA already have bases in Qatar, Kuwait, UAE, KSA, Egypt , Turkey etc so one less Israel or a base will not make any difference.

One part I disagree that, when you say if one wants USA to do something you have to make it their business is not true, USA despite being liberal/progressive country still hold a significant hate towards people of color and specially Arabs, and part of it is from the 9/11 that USA media has kept in its people alive which played a part in that hate, its not just about #neverforget, but such rhetoric has been deliberately kept alive, if 3000 dead Americans by a Organization was evil hence must be #neverforget than Millions of dead Muslims, 3-4 countries completely destroyed by America also calls for #neverforget but America expect rest of the world to just move on with the destruction USA did to their countries and people while they keep their 9/11 and hate related to that pretty alive, and I believe that this hate of Arabs or people of color is kept alive deliberately to justify future wars and Genocide in the name of "Terrorism" or "Right to defend" a satellite colony.

America have a irrational hatted toward middle easterners. It is evident way before 9.11., but was somwhat supresed during Cold War for Soviet Containment. Just look at Hollywood movies.

The reason is simple: America was founded by European peasants. Majority lf them were extremely religious sects. In other word the United States, in this case, is a victim of its own European heritage. Because , today in reality, geostrategically , middle east is very little threat to the US.
 
Weak way to message is just one element. What CNN hasn’t admitted yet is the message was weak. Not addressing core concerns with SINCERITY.

I also suspect, part of why some men didn’t vote for Kamala, outside of not caring as much about reproductive rights, is that some of them don’t want to feel they bought into lies, delivered with limited effort, by a woman. They don’t want to feel cucked. I know how that sounds, but these are some of the “vibes” I’m getting talking to men the past few days. This is the way the online cultural landscape is putting.

It’s also why I don’t forsee the democrats running a woman on the presidential ticket from at least a few elections. They will go for a tall Gen. X white man out of central casting.

Democrats didn’t understand 2020 was a fluke.

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America have a irrational hatted toward middle easterners. It is evident way before 9.11., but was somwhat supresed during Cold War for Soviet Containment. Just look at Hollywood movies.

Nah... They have mostly been brainwashed by the Zionist Hollywood types and the unholy alliance between Evangelicals and Zionists.
 
Homan is Trump's new Border Czar

In an interview with Fox News earlier on Sunday, Homan defended Trump’s mass deportation plans and said, “It's going to be a well-targeted, planned operation conducted, led by the men and women of ICE…When we go out there we’ll know who we’re looking for and most probably where they're going to be and this will be done in a humane manner.” Homan also dismissed suggestions that the military would be used for such and claimed “ICE has the highest detention standards in the industry, these people will be well taken care of.”

Key Background

Homan is considered to be one of the key architects of the controversial “zero tolerance” family separation policy undertaken by the first Trump administration. According to a 2022 report by the Atlantic, Homan was one of the first government officials to pitch the idea of prosecuting undocumented migrants who cross the border illegally with their children and separating them. The plan was rejected at first for being “heartless and impractical” but later adopted during Trump’s first term which resulted in at least 5,000 families being separated. Speaking at the National Conservatism conference in July, Homan said if Trump returned to office, “I’ll be on his heels coming back, and I will run the biggest deportation force this country has ever seen."
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